Which of the two is more worth the money?

[pcypert]

I would actually have liked to get a 21 incher and an extra monitor (what I've always done with the laptops)... but had to go 27 to get the i7... if I could have upgraded the 21 to better processor I would have gone that way and used the extra money for other things that will actually help me out more....

Paul

 

[cocky jeremy]

How can anyone see the beautiful 27" and want to buy a 21.5"?! I don't get it.

 

[iamthedudeman]

You have to love Mac Rumors.

How many people on this thread actually own the 3.33? I am betting none.
I believe the OP was asking if he would see a difference between the 3.06 and the 3.33.

To answer the original question, yes you will see a noticeable difference in performance. Not huge but noticeable. On average 10 to 15 percent or higher. That is considerable And once memory gets cheaper you can upgrade to the 1333Mhz Ram instead of the 1066 Ram. The E8600 3.33 supports the faster Ram. As opposed to the 1066 in the 3.06 C2D.

I don't see how a 27 screen has anything to do with performance.

Some people don't actually want a screen that big. Regardless of price. And yes the 27 is worth more due to the screen and will sell for more regardless of what processor you have in the 21.5.

I have owned the 21.5 mid level version and traded it in for the base with the 3.33 and noticed a difference in performance right away. And comparable to the low end dual Core i3 and i5 in performance in some tests. Overall the Clarksdale's are true beasts, much better than any Core 2 duo. I would wait and buy a imac at the next refresh. If you can. March is not far away or if sooner. Apple is announcing a new imac touch supposedly on the 27th of this month. And maybe they will announce something else. Doesn't hurt to wait.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3704&p=7

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3+M+330+@+2.13GHz

http://techreport.com/articles.x/18216/10

 

[marita]

27" all the way. You'll notice screen size over processor.

 

[EliteF50]

You have to love Mac Rumors.

How many people on this thread actually own the 3.33? I am betting none.
I believe the OP was asking if he would see a difference between the 3.06 and the 3.33.

To answer the original question, yes you will see a noticeable difference in performance. Not huge but noticeable. On average 10 to 15 percent or higher. That is considerable And once memory gets cheaper you can upgrade to the 1333Mhz Ram instead of the 1066 Ram. The E8600 3.33 supports the faster Ram. As opposed to the 1066 in the 3.06 C2D.

I don't see how a 27 screen has anything to do with performance.

Some people don't actually want a screen that big. Regardless of price. And yes the 27 is worth more due to the screen and will sell for more regardless of what processor you have in the 21.5.

I have owned the 21.5 mid level version and traded it in for the base with the 3.33 and noticed a difference in performance right away. And comparable to the low end dual Core i3 and i5 in performance in some tests. Overall the Clarksdale's are true beasts, much better than any Core 2 duo. I would wait and buy a imac at the next refresh. If you can. March is not far away or if sooner. Apple is announcing a new imac touch supposedly on the 27th of this month. And maybe they will announce something else. Doesn't hurt to wait.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3704&p=7

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3+M+330+@+2.13GHz

http://techreport.com/articles.x/18216/10

Thanks, man. I'll take that into consideration. My damn 2.66GHz iMac took 10 minutes to import a 32MB video into iMovie...

 

[tigereat]

You have to love Mac Rumors.

How many people on this thread actually own the 3.33? I am betting none.
I believe the OP was asking if he would see a difference between the 3.06 and the 3.33.

Actually I did have but It had yellow issue. So I returned it and decided to upgrade to i7 model. (You can see my previous posts)

The reason was C2D 3.33 was somewhat slow somtimes for my daily software jobs (Run mutiple servers and powerful software applications at the same time)

I went for 21.5 with the topmost CPU option and upgraded RAM (aftermarket) to 8GB because I thought it could enough handle my software tasks and I also have a limited space in my room. Unfortunately, It is still slow sometimes

 

[iamthedudeman]

Actually I did have but It had yellow issue. So I returned it and decided to upgrade to i7 model. (You can see my previous posts)

The reason was C2D 3.33 was somewhat slow somtimes for my daily software jobs (Run mutiple servers and powerful software applications at the same time)

I went for 21.5 with the topmost CPU option and upgraded RAM (aftermarket) to 8GB because I thought it could enough handle my software tasks and I also have a limited space in my room. Unfortunately, It is still slow sometimes

The Core 2 duo was not designed to run multiple servers and multiple applications at the same time!. Lol. Wow. That is definatly a Quad core job right there.

You made the right decision, the i7 Quad core would be up to the task for what you need it for.

The OP was asking if you would see a difference in performance between a 3.06 C2D E7600 and a E8600. The 8600 is anything but slow for someone running just there computer, for your needs yes. Is the processor slow, no.

No it's not. Compared to the Quad core beasts, yes it is. Compared to other dual core processors it handles itself very well indeed. Even against the new i3 and i5, hangs with them on allot of applications. But the Clarkdales are more powerfull clock for clock.

Check my previous post for the tests.

 

[tflournoy95]

I feel like the i7's are already on their way out... I think an extra 21" monitor is more future proof than the i7

My plan was to buy a 21.5" ATI and built a PC with the money I am saving. With the extra $500 I'm well on my way to having TWO computers and one being more powerful than the 27" Quad. Don't worry, no Win7. Ubuntu all the way!

why wouldnt you just hackintosh the other one?
its not illegal and it doesnt violate eula if you just put an apple sticker on it.

 

[125037]

its not illegal and it doesnt violate eula if you just put an apple sticker on it.

Are you serious!? LOL

 

[paulrbeers]

You have to love Mac Rumors.

How many people on this thread actually own the 3.33? I am betting none.
I believe the OP was asking if he would see a difference between the 3.06 and the 3.33.

To answer the original question, yes you will see a noticeable difference in performance. Not huge but noticeable. On average 10 to 15 percent or higher. That is considerable And once memory gets cheaper you can upgrade to the 1333Mhz Ram instead of the 1066 Ram. The E8600 3.33 supports the faster Ram. As opposed to the 1066 in the 3.06 C2D.

No the OP stated this:
Okay, I regret buying my refurbished 20" iMac, and have decided to sell it and buy a refurbished ATiMac 21.5" with 3.33GHz, or a 27" 3.06GHz C2D.

Therefore he is asking which is a better way to spend the money on the 3.33ghz 21" or the 3.06GHZ 27".

Further, if you read in one of his other posts where he states he is going to do with it, clearly his money is better spent on screen size because internet surfing / word processing he isn't going to notice a difference, but the ability to do both side by side (due to the larger screen) is a huge win.

I love Macrumors because people don't read the entire thread and instead make smart @$$ remarks....

 

[cleric]

quad core or bust imo

you aren't going to notice the speed difference the cache difference is probably a bigger deal but that stuff is only going to be relevant if your doing some serious cpu stuff x264 encoding etc in which case the core i5/i7 both spank the C2D

 

[Ca$hflow]

I just got a 27'' i5 model from Amazon for $1970 with free shipping and no tax, and it is very nice. I'm sure you're going to love it.

If you can afford the extra $300 for an i5 model, that's the way to go, I think.

I agree with that.

 

[iamthedudeman]

No the OP stated this:
Okay, I regret buying my refurbished 20" iMac, and have decided to sell it and buy a refurbished ATiMac 21.5" with 3.33GHz, or a 27" 3.06GHz C2D.

Therefore he is asking which is a better way to spend the money on the 3.33ghz 21" or the 3.06GHZ 27".

Further, if you read in one of his other posts where he states he is going to do with it, clearly his money is better spent on screen size because internet surfing / word processing he isn't going to notice a difference, but the ability to do both side by side (due to the larger screen) is a huge win.

I love Macrumors because people don't read the entire thread and instead make smart @$$ remarks....

He was asking weather the 3.33 or the 27 screen would be more beneficial. Wow. Really?
Unfortunely I read the entire thread, unlike yourself. I answered his original question. Weather he would see a bigger difference between the 3.06 and 3.33 processor or the 27 inch screen. I guess you missed this.

" And yes the 27 is worth more due to the screen and will sell for more regardless of what processor you have in the 21.5. "

This was in response to his second post:

Well, which of the two will be more future proof in terms of selling it. In case Apple comes up with a brand new crazy looking iMac, and I want to sell mine for one.

Which iMac can I sell for more money?
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I was replying to the people who never owned the 3.33 as opposed to the 3.06 and claim that there is basically no difference. Not the OP. If you would have read the entire thread and not a smart ass post like above you would know that.

Like yourself claim that he would not notice a difference in word processing or internet surfing. You would know this how exactly?

Did he state he would use both side by side? Where did he state that?

Fact of the matter is he did not, try using some of your own advice next time instead of acting like a ass.

 

[ditzy]

At work I have a 20" 2.6 iMac, at home I have a 24" 3.06 iMac. While I very occasionally notice the difference in performance. I always notice the difference in size. I would choose the extra screen real-estate as long as you have the space.

 

[tflournoy95]

Are you serious!? LOL

Yes I am serious actually. It's what I would do

 

[ViViDboarder]

Yes I am serious actually. It's what I would do

It's not true though. It says Apple Branded computer... Not "Computer with Apple Sticker." Part of having a brand is being the sole releaser of branded devices.

That said, I think it's bull and I have no problem running a hackintosh. In fact, I'd probably dual boot it.

 

[WilliamG]

You won't notice any difference going from 3.06 to 3.33. For what it's worth, I went from a 2.4Ghz MacBook Pro to a 2.66Ghz MacBook Pro. No noticeable speed difference AT ALL. You WILL, however, notice the 27" screen every single day. You're using the screen 100% of the time; you're not using every single Mhz 100% of the time. Go for the larger iMac.

 

[tflournoy95]

It's not true though. It says Apple Branded computer... Not "Computer with Apple Sticker." Part of having a brand is being the sole releaser of branded devices.

That said, I think it's bull and I have no problem running a hackintosh. In fact, I'd probably dual boot it.

The eula says that it has to have an apple logo on it. The apple sticker is an apple logo

 

[iamthedudeman]

You won't notice any difference going from 3.06 to 3.33. For what it's worth, I went from a 2.4Ghz MacBook Pro to a 2.66Ghz MacBook Pro. No noticeable speed difference AT ALL. You WILL, however, notice the 27" screen every single day. You're using the screen 100% of the time; you're not using every single Mhz 100% of the time. Go for the larger iMac.

Apples and Oranges. How is the 2.4 compared to the 2.66 the same as the 3.06 compared to the 3.33? With different cache sizes and processor speeds. As well as different dies.

It's not the same. Not in the same ballpark. As being the same as comparing the 2.4 and the 2.66. Not even close.

I owned the 3.06 and now own the 3.33 and the difference is noticeable. As noticeable as a 27 inch screen, of coarse not, but quite noticeable.

Not only that the 3.33 supports the 1333Mhz Ram to boot.

I agree get the 27 if you want to measure differences on what you will notice more. But he asked if the 3.06 and 3.33 speeds differ also. And they do.
The C2D 3.33 is 10 to 20 percent faster. That is noticeable.


Check the links I posted and then tell me if there is no difference.

 

[ViViDboarder]

The eula says that it has to have an apple logo on it. The apple sticker is an apple logo

First, wrong place for this, but just to clarify... It's not even an EULA, it's an SLA as it doesn't only apply to the End User.

Also, here is the link to the PDF. http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx105.pdf

It says "Apple-labled" and Apple OWNS their label. Now you can do whatever you want. It's not like Apple is going to bring the hammer down on you. Just don't try to do what Pystar did...

 

[tflournoy95]

First, wrong place for this, but just to clarify... It's not even an EULA, it's an SLA as it doesn't only apply to the End User.

Also, here is the link to the PDF. http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx105.pdf

It says "Apple-labled" and Apple OWNS their label. Now you can do whatever you want. It's not like Apple is going to bring the hammer down on you. Just don't try to do what Pystar did...

I agree on how stupid psystar is. But the stickers that you get when you buy an iPod or something is an apple logo. Anyway apple doesn't care if you build a hackintosh or not.