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Who else is waiting out for the MBP refresh?
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Oh dang, you’re right. That was the beginning of the end. At least the SSD wasn’t soldered?
For those who are saying they are avoiding the M1 chip because it's the first-gen, what are your reasons for avoiding it?
It's been 8 months since it was released and I'm not aware of any reports of underlying issues with the chip. Seems a pretty safe bet to me.
It's been 8 months since it was released and I'm not aware of any reports of underlying issues with the chip. Seems a pretty safe bet to me.
Everything has been relatively smooth for me except that I still can't get my 4k monitor to display in 4k60hz and my Logitech MX 2S wireless mouse has a noticeable lag on the receiver dongle and bluetooth.
I'm on Intel i5 Air and waiting... My workflow is mostly MS Office & teams and because of teams I'm waiting (not native), as I'm afraid of the performance requirements of the teams crap.
Teams alone can now easily "kill" my machine... (video meeting, presenting, 5+ video participants).
Teams alone can now easily "kill" my machine... (video meeting, presenting, 5+ video participants).
I hope that by now Apple has had the time to polish the QA/QC on its new chassis. Yes it will be 1st gen with new screens, but the chip architecture is well-known by now, and both keyboard and TouchID are mature.
I have a 2019 MBP16 and would like to supplement this with a 14" model for when (if?) regular commuting to the office or international travel resumes.
However, a new MBP 14" would need to comfortably exceed the performance of the MBP16 with AMD5500M GPU for the upgrade to be justified. Hopefully a new 16-core GPU would be around the performance of the 5600M or better.
If the new MBPs turn out to have the same micro architecture as the current M1, I might pass too. I'm really hoping for something that includes the latest advances in Apple Silicon, not one based on a 1-year-old implementation.
However, a new MBP 14" would need to comfortably exceed the performance of the MBP16 with AMD5500M GPU for the upgrade to be justified. Hopefully a new 16-core GPU would be around the performance of the 5600M or better.
If the new MBPs turn out to have the same micro architecture as the current M1, I might pass too. I'm really hoping for something that includes the latest advances in Apple Silicon, not one based on a 1-year-old implementation.
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I don't think that just double the number of cores is going to comfortably beat the 5600M. Tripling, yes. They are supposedly going to be offering up to 32 GPU cores but it's possible that that configuration is only going into the 16 inch models. I'm personally fine with 8 GPU cores but I think that they will start with 16 and do a 32. 16, 24 and 32 would result in too many SKUs.
I hope not and believe if they can get the cores in the 14 comfortably then they should. More than happy to pay a premium for this and I guess a lot of others would too.
I imagine the GPU performance will depend on whether it scales linearly with the number of cores.
IIRC, Geekbench 5 Metal benchmarks for the 8-core M1 are about 22,000 and about 41,000 for the AMD Radeon Pro 5600M. So in theory, doubling the GPU cores would match or slightly exceed the 5600M. If there were core architecture improvements as well, this could only help.
We'll find out in a few months!
I use OpenCL for comparison so that I can compare non macOS GPUs and the 5600 scores more than twice the M1 on that benchmark at 51,043.
I am. I have a late 2013 15inch. 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, good CPU for the time and a discrete video card. It’s done very well over the years. Started suddenly powering off. I was hoping the new 16 inch models were coming mid year so I could finally lay the old one to rest. However, it’s now in an Apple store waiting for a battery replacement. I didn’t really want to spend money to keep it going, but I need a functional machine for my writing/publishing.
I’ve been borrowing a 13inch and the screen size is killing me. At least the speed upgrade should feel really nice when they come.
I’m planning on getting a fairly high spec version and preordering as early as I can. The high cost spread over several years is good value. Now I wonder if my old Mac will be saleable.
I’ve been borrowing a 13inch and the screen size is killing me. At least the speed upgrade should feel really nice when they come.
I’m planning on getting a fairly high spec version and preordering as early as I can. The high cost spread over several years is good value. Now I wonder if my old Mac will be saleable.
I was planning on waiting, but my 2014 MBP has finally started acting up; keyboard isn’t backlit and shift is almost always on which means it boots into safe mode. I’m going to try see if I can limp along with a USB keyboard but otherwise Amazon has the 8/512 Air for $150 off. Besides, that new MBP is going to be a lot more expensive than this Air.
Humerously the Zagg ProKeys case I just bought for my new 11” iPP is saving the day.
Humerously the Zagg ProKeys case I just bought for my new 11” iPP is saving the day.
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I am happy with my m1 air. Coming from the 16" MBP I am in no hurry to go back to something that big. Maybe the 14" m1x, but even that is questionable. A 14" will no doubt be more powerful. But, it will also be bigger and heavier and have a fan and associated noise.
As it is the M1 Air does all I need for my office and ML development work so I not seeing an urgent need to add a 14" MBP and sure don't want to go back to a "luggable" 16".
As it is the M1 Air does all I need for my office and ML development work so I not seeing an urgent need to add a 14" MBP and sure don't want to go back to a "luggable" 16".
I'm holding out til the first revision to the yet-to-be-released Apple silicon 16" MBP. I try to avoid 1st Gen stuff. My 15" 2014 is still chugging along, but once Monterrey is released and I can't upgrade to that, good ol' upgradeitis will hit me like a tidal wave, I'm sure. Still, I know I'll be able to wait. Hoping no later than Spring/early summer 2022.
You can upgrade to Monterey. I've run my 2014 MacBook Pro using the tools in the Monterey forum.
I had a M1 and returned it. Waiting for something that supports multiple external monitors and supports HiDPI better. Displaylink does not work well with anything above 1920x1080 or native on a 4k monitor. The choice is really large or really small text. Or you can go low res and get blurry text.
I've been chomping at the bit to replace my 2015 MBP. It's still a fine machine but I think it's time for a refresh. Although I'm firmly in the Apple walled garden when it comes to my iDevices, I don't require the same integration for my computers. So a PC laptop is an option as well, and I'm thinking of going with the 14" Razer. But I think it'd be foolish to pull the trigger before I see what Apple releases in the Fall, so the plan is to hold off another couple of months.