On the flip side, I love my Space white with light grey / white interior.
Too hot in So Calif year around to get any dark colors.
Plus black interiors make me depressed - like being in a dark coffin...
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Too hot in So Calif year around to get any dark colors.
Plus black interiors make me depressed - like being in a dark coffin...
I was debating between black or white interior. Ultimately I decided in black because it shows dirt less.
But white is very good looking as well.
Are the seats cloth or leather?
I was really concerned getting black leather seats in my Bolt, but they are ventilated (heat and cold) and that works great…
I’d be concerned with white leather and transfer from dark jeans etc.
But it looks good when it’s spotless.
But it looks good when it’s spotless.
My friend's Tesla M3 has the white leather seats. I could never do that but... they're surprisingly durable. His is a 2019 and they are spotless - he's even got a kid. They clean really well. And yeah, he wears black jeans lol.
I’d probably be fine. My i3 has the brown leather which I like. Not dark like a black interior. But I don’t need to be too concerned about them getting dirty.
I find it funny when people abbreviate Model 3 to M3. An M3 is a BMW in my head!
Model 3 with 18 in. wheels
At Costco I got the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 All Season, $990 for set of 4 including installation and tax.
Yeah I’m not fussed on white and cream leather on the cars I own but like the look of them on other peoples. They’d get filthy for me as I wear a lot of dark jeans and have kids who really test the cleanliness of any car. The dark brown looks nice and I’d imagine it’s as durable as the black.
I’m glad I’m not the only one on the M3 abbreviation lol. I sometimes have to re-read posts as suddenly I think they’ve switched to talking about a BMW too.
It's "vegan leather" or pleather.
Not cloth nor leather - it's a synthetic plastic that does not allow color transfer.
Quite nice with the perforated seating - very comfortable.
As a side note, I remember when I had a Land Rover with white interior and the leather got easily stained.
If you plan to install a 14-50 outlet, avoid the $20 Home Depot stuff. Pay the extra for an industrial grade outlet. A laundry dryer is used maybe 1 hour a week while an EV charger is typically used for several hours a day. The other option is hardwired which appears to be safer but less flexible.
That's much like an advertisement, not what it is like in Alaska, specially in the interior regions, and farther North toward Prudhoe Bay. EV's are more common in Juneau and Anchorage, but less common by Fairbanks. There are great efforts to build charging stations in the interior, but at the same time electricity is very expensive. Most electricity produced in Alaska is generated from fossil fuels, including coal. There are several coal-powered plants in Fairbanks and North Pole, but several rely on diesel fuel to generate electricity.
Agreed!
EV chargers draw constantly on the wiring so getting a high quality industrial NEMA outlet is recommended by most electricians.
Hubbell is one brand.
Pricey it is.
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M3 seats are fake leather. Early M3’s had actual leather only on the steering wheel. That was later changed to fake as well.
A lot of car manufacturers are using a vegan leather these days as its more durable, less maintenance involved, and is cheaper to source. I sat in an Audi RS7 the other day in their showroom and the seats were faux leather. They are also faux leather in our Q4 and the downside in my opinion is the lack of leather smell which is always pleasant in a new car.
EVs been in the spotlight for at least 10 years.
Thinking back to the early days of Tesla & Bolt EV fires - made it look like buying one is a deathtrap.
Few remember the Pinto, or Corvair, others, as exposed death traps. Started long before EVs hit the scene.
I think less attention should be paid to false stories about a higher risk of fires and more should be paid to demanding lower priced options from manufacturers. At the moment those of us with EV’s are enjoying cheaper running costs, but in the next couple of years the annual tax is about to sky rocket and public charging is going to be more and more expensive. When you combine that with high retail and secondhand prices, I just don’t know how the masses are going to be able to afford the transition. We are lucky to be able to afford it or have good jobs with the perks, but what about minimum wage families? This 2030 deadline does seem pie in the sky at this point IMHO.
So true. The Chinese brands are more reasonably priced than others, but there is a risk level with brands without a European track record and established dealer network.
Of course the difference between an EV and an ICE car is range. With a petrol car you don’t consider it. But if people want affordable EV’s it’s about excepting that you might need to consider one with less range (as you basically pay more for longer range). Then when you need to make a longer journey you’ll need to charge more often.
But the inconvenience will save you purchase money.
The main issue is for those that can’t charge at home. They will have the hardest time adopting.
That’s also a major point that is putting people off even considering EV’s at the moment. One of the first questions people ask me when they know you have an EV is related to range. I think the strategy manufacturers have of charging significantly more for higher range is hampering adoption and perhaps needs to be overcome in the near future.
I don’t think it’s a strategy so much as extra batteries do cost extra money.
A stripped out basic model without all the bells and whistles (and the significant weight savings) could help with the range and cost. But who wants a car with window winders!
And in order to get the batteries cheaper they need a higher adoption rate. Convincing people to swap their high spec secondhand older cars for low spec EV’s is the hard sell at the moment. That Kia Niro we had briefly was a £37k basic spec car and perhaps the least luxury car I’ve driven since I was in my early 20’s. The range on it was just 180 miles too.
Lyft driver last week picked me up in one of those and I was shocked how bad the ride quality and road noise was. I have a hard time seeing how anybody who did a test drive would buy a Kia Niro.
In the US it’s hard to find a decent used car (meaning won’t need work) for under $18K. Average Americans are being priced out of the car market entirely, to say nothing of EV’s.
It's Almost Impossible To Find A Decent Used Car Under $20,000
Sub-$20,000 cars comprise about 12 percent of the market today compared to almost 50 percent in 2019
jalopnik.com
This, in a country that basically requires you to have a car to obtain and keep a job unless you’re in an area with a somewhat functioning mass transit option.