It may be global but they're ending the product because of poor sales. If it was a profitable truck, they'd keep selling it
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Low sales - why? Look at your posted pic: high prices.
That combined with inadequate DCFC charging capabilities (all the EV trucks are based on 400V architecture afaik, except the cybertruck)
I'm only stating that ford is ending the truck due to low sales, which is in response to another member stating that its an ill advised move in a global market. Its not ill advised if ford isn't selling much regardless of the reasons
We purchased a 2024 Lexus NX350h. Happy and simultaneously fearful of the expense of technology. 😉
I’m asking what makes the wheels turn, a driveshaft from the motor, or electric motors, or both? Apparently in the Lexus (Toyota?) AWD system, the engine drives the front wheels and the battery powers the rear wheels…
www.lexusoflakeridge.com
How Does Lexus' Hybrid All-Wheel Drive System Work?
The hybrid engine uses a gasoline engine and an electric motor. On hybrid Lexus vehicles with all-wheel drive, the electric motor powers the rear axle while the combustion engine powers the front axle.
Power to the wheels is therefore provided by two separate motors, which is very advantageous, since the power of each of the motors is available immediately, particularly in the case of the electric motor.
The latter delivers torque immediately, which means the rear axle receives the power it needs to stabilize itself as soon as a loss of grip is detected. On many all-wheel drive systems, a power transfer must occur from front to back when a problem is detected. Behind the wheel, we feel this delay which seems like a hesitation on the part of our vehicle.
This can undermine confidence and a sense of peace of mind behind the wheel, especially when the road conditions are very difficult. You won't have this problem in a Lexus Hybrid AWD vehicle.
I’m asking what makes the wheels turn, a driveshaft from the motor, or electric motors, or both? Apparently in the Lexus (Toyota?) AWD system, the engine drives the front wheels and the battery powers the rear wheels…
Lexus of Lakeridge | Lexus Hybrid All-Wheel-Drive System Explained
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How Does Lexus' Hybrid All-Wheel Drive System Work?
The hybrid engine uses a gasoline engine and an electric motor. On hybrid Lexus vehicles with all-wheel drive, the electric motor powers the rear axle while the combustion engine powers the front axle.
Power to the wheels is therefore provided by two separate motors, which is very advantageous, since the power of each of the motors is available immediately, particularly in the case of the electric motor.
The latter delivers torque immediately, which means the rear axle receives the power it needs to stabilize itself as soon as a loss of grip is detected. On many all-wheel drive systems, a power transfer must occur from front to back when a problem is detected. Behind the wheel, we feel this delay which seems like a hesitation on the part of our vehicle.
This can undermine confidence and a sense of peace of mind behind the wheel, especially when the road conditions are very difficult. You won't have this problem in a Lexus Hybrid AWD vehicle.
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I had various Toyota hybrids since 2008, the “technology” saved me thousands in fuel cost, plus reduced maintenance cost (never had to change brake pads in over 80k+ miles on a couple of those). If you’re really that “fearful”, get an extended warranty though imho it’s way waste of $$$.
Congrats on the new car, enjoy it
If expense is a concern you should have gone full BEV. Much less to go wrong. Less or no servicing costs either.
Enjoy your new car.
I would own a EV now, except the USA is not ready for that. Our infastructure does not currently support it immo, for what that’s worth. 🤔
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I am by far, no expert, but my impression is that the stats of a EV Truck are pretty dismal, especially if you expect it to haul. A hybrid would seem to be more doable.
The US is always going to lag behind the rest of the world I’m afraid when it comes to EV’s. Too many reasons that I can’t mention here.
It’s a shame.
Here 22% of all new cars sold in 2025 were BEV’s. That figure has been rising every year.
Well, I'm in CA and have been driving an EV for about 3 years now, so I'm honestly not sure how to take your comment tbh.
EV works just fine for me, I'm also following 2 auto forums and there are lots of people who do many cross-country trips in EVs with no issues.
The fast charge (DCFC) infrastructure is ever improving, could it be better? Sure, and it will over time.
If you have home charging available, frankly no issue whatsoever, if not, it's challenging as @BigMcGuire has frequently posted here.
From my experience, the infrastructure does support EVs just fine in most places, Alaska probably the notable exception.
This is simply my impression, lack of suitable infastructure… in Texas, but sometimes I speak in terms of the country, which maybe I shouldn’t. You’re in California. If you are traveling cross country, how long does it take you to charge and how often?
I roll into a mega-gas station over flowing with people and cars and generally not a charging station in sight. This is not to imply there're no charging stations to be found, but I think there needs to be an abundance we don’r yet have. I don’t have an adequate image that reveals the masses at a place like BUC-EES.
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Tbh if you had an EV either the cars navigation or apps you download would find the charging stations for you.
A modern EV can do 300+ miles and only takes 30 minutes to charge. I stop a lot more often than every 300 miles with my old body!
How often do you drive 300 miles? 90-95% of EV charging is done at home. So really is less hassle than driving to a petrol station.
What kind of an electric bill do you end up with? Just curious.
Mazda offers a 110v charger for their plugins, so no hassles getting one installed in the garage (I can explain the hassles if asked). I took a hard look at the Mazda CX-70 hybrid, but I was not ready for a plug-in. 57mpg with battery, then it drop to 26 MPG ICE only. This would be great for a majority of local, short distance driving.
I currently drive an Ioniq 5 which has a EPA range of just over 300 miles and can charge from 10-80% in under 20 min, so, since I have to stop every 2-2.5hrs for restroom and stretching, the car can be at 80% capacity during that break.
And as for charging availability, There's plenty between Tesla SuC (mine needs an adapter), EA (Electrify America), EVGo, Ioanna and plenty more...
I don't do a lot of long range trips (anymore) but I can easily manage, it does require some planning ahead, certainly more (today) vs ICE cars...
Maybe if this were a few years ago I would agree but I don't think this is the case in the US anymore. Not with the build out of Tesla SuperChargers that can be accessed by other EVs today. I've been driving my Tesla for about a year and a half now (had a Chevy Volt before it) and have made many trips out of state (from FL) to GA, going as far as NY, NJ, PA and never had any issues with charge availability. My favorite Buc-ee's is in Warner-Robins, GA and it has dozens of Tesla chargers and now has some Mercedes-Benz chargers as well.
So I’m fortunate in that I change at work for free. If I charged at home I would sign up for a cheaper overnight rate.
But basically in the UK
Charging an EV at home is significantly cheaper per mile than petrol/diesel, costing around
2-9p per mile(especially with off-peak EV tariffs) versus petrol/diesel's 12-20p per mile, saving owners substantial money annually, though costs vary by electricity/fuel prices and charging habits.
He gets free charging at work
My average cost per kWh here in CA is about .33$, honestly never bothered how much it costs to charge the car as I get lower rates during the night when I'm actually charging.
Fuel right now is around $4.50 or so and expected to ride with the closure of 2 refineries here.
But plugging in every night, knowing that "my tank" is "full" (I actually charge to 90%), not having to drive to and touch the equipment and experience the smell of gasoline, is great.
Agreed. I was planning on switching Mrs AFB car this year, but she’s just been told where she works is closing so priorities will change a bit.He gets free charging at work
My average cost per kWh here in CA is about .33$, honestly never bothered how much it costs to charge the car as I get lower rates during the night when I'm actually charging.
Fuel right now is around $4.50 or so and expected to ride with the closure of 2 refineries here.
But plugging in every night, knowing that "my tank" is "full" (I actually charge to 90%), not having to drive to and touch the equipment and experience the smell of gasoline, is great.
I would love to buy an electric car, but I am leaning towards hybrid instead. The electric cars are just too expensive.
The cost (and depreciation) is prohibitive. But don’t overlook the reduced running costs. Look at what a hybrid will cost you in petrol and servicing over the years and the numbers look a bit better.
That said there are some second hand bargains to be had.
I live in the NY metroplex and work in NYC. I commute 26 miles each way and do so even in the cold NY winters.
I have been full EV for 3 years now. Road trips have been great, daily driving is great. Won’t switch back.
I save between $300-$400 a month in gas charges. We have a single L2 charger at home. I have plenty of time to charge both nightly.
EVs are everywhere. I spend a lot of time in Houston, there are EVs all over there too.
I have been full EV for 3 years now. Road trips have been great, daily driving is great. Won’t switch back.
I save between $300-$400 a month in gas charges. We have a single L2 charger at home. I have plenty of time to charge both nightly.
EVs are everywhere. I spend a lot of time in Houston, there are EVs all over there too.
Due to our ... situation ... my wife and I have been living in Apartments since 2018. Our apartment from 2018-2023 had only a 110v and we had free 110v charging at work - kept us charged for my wife's 55 mile one way work commute and weekend drives. We'd just use city level 2 and Tesla supercharging when we need it.
Here in NorCal I don't have access to a garage with an outlet and the local level 2 chargers (tiny little spots) are $.84/kWh. So we charge exclusively at work and at Tesla Superchargers (about 50/50). It's been working for us as superchargers are plentiful. Level 2 charging at work is less so, but just requires waking up earlier.
I even took a trip from Northern California to Iowa and back along the 80 freeway - Tesla Superchargers made it convenient, fast, and easy. Our bladders were the determining factor for stopping (not charging) and by the time we hit the restrooms and stretched our legs, the car was ready to go before we were.
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Spot on. We've been 100% EV since 2022. We will not ever go back. We calculated we were saving $350-$400/mo in gas with my wife's driving initially (less now that we're closer to work). I dream of having a L2 charger at home someday.
I do miss the gas fumes. Luckily my elderly neighbor is happy to let me fill up her car now and then (about once a month or less) - so I've been getting my fix every now and then. <cough>.
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The single thing I'm most appreciative about since getting our EV's is the time that I've got back. No time wasted going to the gas station to fill up, and waiting in line during peak time or holiday. We plug in and let the cars charge overnight. On our Model Y we needed the tires rotated - 5 minutes setting up the appointment in the app, a few days later the mobile tech shows up at the house and 15 minutes later the tires were rotated and he was on his way. No more dropping a car off at a mechanic or dealer and waiting around (depending upon the service). We dont do long road trips as much anymore, but being able to map your route based upon the supercharger locations is a +.