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Hottest day on record in the UK ever yesterday. This is likely to be the warmest ever year on planet earth.
So I think me rocking a few older camera and Apple stuff I’d just the little bit I can do as well as driving an EV is the least I can do.
Plus it will offset those with outdated antiquated views a bit.
We all have to do our bit. After all we share the planet.
Our family are thinking either an R1S or a Polestar 3 to replace our Model 3. We have an R1S reservation and we will likely put down a reservation on the Polestar 3 as soon as it's announced in October (the car's detail and features/specs have not been shown yet so this is a maybe).
Between those two we're heavily leaning towards the Rivian because there's something really exciting about their company and products. We love almost everything about the R1T but didn't buy one because we have no use for an electric truck right now; if we move to an electric truck we will likely get an F150 Lightning because it's a lot more practical (the ability to power your house with the truck's battery is huge for us). The R1S looks like it will hit the mark for us in almost every category we care about. I hope Polestar introduce some new features and interior styling on the Polestar 3, I don't want it to simply be an SUV version of the Polestar 2. I know Polestar are using a brand new electric-only platform for the Polestar 3 (as opposed to the Polestar 2's adapted platform) so hopefully some interior updates, new features, and faster charging are on the menu.
Anyone else eyeing either one of those cars? Are there any other large EV SUVs coming that I'm not aware of? I know a lot of people are waiting for the R1S so I have a feeling we won't see ours until 2024... Ideally we want to replace the Model 3 ASAP but aren't very impressed with a lot of the existing options out there today. I'm really hoping we somehow manage to get an early R1S.
We've essentially decided we're unlikely to ever buy a Tesla again. Issues with build quality, lack of creature comforts, terrible service, uncertainty regarding long term reliability, and general company dodgyness are all factors that pushed us over the edge. Really the only thing Tesla has going for it is the charging network. I can't imagine Tesla opening up the Supercharger network as they've previously announced because that killer selling point is an enormous practicality benefit for Tesla over other companies, it's literally the only thing that's made us think twice about moving away from the brand. Our experience with Superchargers hasn't been flawless but it's certainly been miles above what we've seen from Electrify America and the rest.
With that being said the quoted mileage of the R1S and Polestar 3 cover almost all round trips we regularly take so charging away from home won't be as big of a deal as it is right now.
Between those two we're heavily leaning towards the Rivian because there's something really exciting about their company and products. We love almost everything about the R1T but didn't buy one because we have no use for an electric truck right now; if we move to an electric truck we will likely get an F150 Lightning because it's a lot more practical (the ability to power your house with the truck's battery is huge for us). The R1S looks like it will hit the mark for us in almost every category we care about. I hope Polestar introduce some new features and interior styling on the Polestar 3, I don't want it to simply be an SUV version of the Polestar 2. I know Polestar are using a brand new electric-only platform for the Polestar 3 (as opposed to the Polestar 2's adapted platform) so hopefully some interior updates, new features, and faster charging are on the menu.
Anyone else eyeing either one of those cars? Are there any other large EV SUVs coming that I'm not aware of? I know a lot of people are waiting for the R1S so I have a feeling we won't see ours until 2024... Ideally we want to replace the Model 3 ASAP but aren't very impressed with a lot of the existing options out there today. I'm really hoping we somehow manage to get an early R1S.
We've essentially decided we're unlikely to ever buy a Tesla again. Issues with build quality, lack of creature comforts, terrible service, uncertainty regarding long term reliability, and general company dodgyness are all factors that pushed us over the edge. Really the only thing Tesla has going for it is the charging network. I can't imagine Tesla opening up the Supercharger network as they've previously announced because that killer selling point is an enormous practicality benefit for Tesla over other companies, it's literally the only thing that's made us think twice about moving away from the brand. Our experience with Superchargers hasn't been flawless but it's certainly been miles above what we've seen from Electrify America and the rest.
With that being said the quoted mileage of the R1S and Polestar 3 cover almost all round trips we regularly take so charging away from home won't be as big of a deal as it is right now.
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If you can wait until mid 2023, the Chevy Blazer will be out and would qualify as a large EV SUV.
Preview: 2024 Chevrolet Blazer EV starts at $44,995, ends at 320 miles
Chevy will offer three different battery pack choices in the Blazer, in front- or rear-wheel-drive single-motor and all-wheel-drive dual-motor configurations.
We just returned from a lovely 4,000 Km trip across 8 countries. It was wonderful, not issues whatsoever. Probably one of our favourite travel cars ever....
I hope you took it through the tunnel in Monaco!
Good to hear the network is good across Europe.
Ah, that makes sense. I saw some Polestars at an EV Expo last weekend. Nice looking cars.
2 in front, 1 in back is not unstable, but 1 in front, two in back really is.
(to be fair, as so often the did in these kinds of stunts, Top Gear modified this Robin be to extra tippy. Still, the geometry does not work in its favor.)
There is an EV rally taking place on the Dalton Highway, Alaska. This is not something that will become the norm in Alaska since electric is not available along the Dalton Highway, but if you want to know how the "tour" is taking place from day to day, there should be several websites you can check, including the one below.
www.arcticroadrally.com
www.thearcticsounder.com
Arctic Road Rally
The Arctic Road Rally drives transportation innovation by demonstrating the possibilities of electric vehicle (EV) technology deployed in the Arctic.
www.arcticroadrally.com
Anchorage Daily News
I have a "reverse trike" Arcimoto FUV. It is *SUPER* stable. The fact that it (and the Aptera you linked to) have batteries low down means it's *REALLY* hard to get them in a position where the center of mass is outside the three wheels. I can drive my Arcimoto around corners fast enough that the inside wheel loses traction (it's front-wheel-drive, one motor per front wheel) and goes "sk-sk-sk-sk" and it still feels like I have plenty of stability to avoid risk of flipping. And the Arcimoto is a much "taller/skinnier" vehicle than the Aptera.
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Yea definitely price stops us. But also we aren't in a big city that supports them, and we live in an apartment so can't install our own charger. So need to hunt for chargers on the route, and there probably aren't many super ones. They need mainstream pricing and a robust supercharger network to attract many more users.
There is so much room for low powered light weight low emission combustion engine vehicles being driven in a reasonable way.
It is completely bizarre to see super heavy electric powered SUVs with hundreds of horsepowers being marketed as "green" these days. With batteries made from rare earths by slave labourers in Africa in need of huge copper cable networks to be constantly recharged.
It is completely bizarre to see super heavy electric powered SUVs with hundreds of horsepowers being marketed as "green" these days. With batteries made from rare earths by slave labourers in Africa in need of huge copper cable networks to be constantly recharged.
What is also bizarre is when you realize that when those big heavy EV SUVs replace gasoline powered SUVs, the results are much much better for climate change and the difference is greater than a light weight EV replacing a lightweight ICEV.
No there isn't. Pollution is pollution, just because it's "not as bad" doesn't mean it's acceptable. This topic is about electric cars anyway, not oil company shills.
The high weight prevents electrical cars from being "green". The car industry still likes the fact to sell everybody a new car. Building monster EVs pollutes the world too. Close to Berlin there is a new Tesla factory that uses all the region's drinking water.
Better make driving more efficient. Share rides, cruise without racing, build lightweight cars.
Better make driving more efficient. Share rides, cruise without racing, build lightweight cars.
Not until they bring a well-appointed small hatchback to the US. So tired of these massive vehicles.
I'll run my GTI until this happens, I only put around 4k-6k miles per year. If there is nothing, I'll go without a car. My eBike is already replacing a lot of trips.
I'll run my GTI until this happens, I only put around 4k-6k miles per year. If there is nothing, I'll go without a car. My eBike is already replacing a lot of trips.
Depends on the EV. My BMW i3 weighs 1345kg. The 1.4 litre petrol VW Golf it replaced was 1268kg. Not that much difference. Especially if you fill the Golf with fuel!
And yes driving more economically and (where possible) using public transport can also play its part. We all need to do our bit. We’ve relied on the oil industry far too long.
People criticize certain countries like China for having a lot of air pollution. When those countries try to address the air pollution through clean air regulations or by making more EVs, the same people complain about that. Anti-EV people try to block efforts to expand EV charging infrastructure. Then they point to the lack of infrastructure as "proof" that EV's can't succeed.
North Carolina Looks to Remove Public EV Chargers, Probably to the Trash
Homeowner associations (HOAs) have been known to not provide shared EV charging and also forbid residents from installing their own. Some HOAs raise money through stock investing, so it would be interesting to see if their investments have a conflict of interest with EVs.
How to fix home charging
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The infrastructure certainly needs to improve at this point before many of us as able to go electric. Obviously this is getting better all the time. Again though the cost needs to come down too for EV’s and right now, this is looking unlikely with the cost of manufacturing remaining high. I’ll never be taking out a £40k-£50k loan just to get a car that suits my needs and right now the big EV’s are huge sums of money. It’s a difficult time to promote this sort of technology while electric bills have tripled and about to quadruple. People where I live are worrying about affording to put the heating on let alone charge an EV on the drive. I think this promotion will be on pause for the foreseeable future and hopefully by then we start to see a serious solution to get more people into EV technology.
Even though electric prices are rising the cost per mile is still cheaper in an EV than an ICE. You are right that the car costs are high (as are second hand costs right now) but the depreciation is lower. But if you can’t find the cash in the first place none of that helps and I’m fortunate that we had savings that were available.
In Germany the ratio between chargers and battery-cars got worse not better. I rode an VW electric cab the other day the driver said he would like his old Passat Diesel back because the new e-car's range is way too short for a cab drivers shift. He needs to recharge every noontime but because charging takes so long he needs to use a more expensive and rare fast charger with a charge time limit of one hour. The car is not fully charged after one hour for the second half of the shift so he pays hefty charging overtime fees on top and is close from getting banned from using it.
He said the only cars with significant better battery range are Porsches.
He said the only cars with significant better battery range are Porsches.