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Who is buying the RX100 III?
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Happy new owner of the RX100 M3 as of yesterday!
For me, top priorities included: Viewfinder, fast sharp, high-quality lens, user-controllable settings (Aperture Priority, Shutter Speed, Manual), and small size (it probably won't ever be in my pockets but will be in a small dedicated compact camera bag or (probably most often) in the bag in which I also carry my iPad Mini. I have a couple of trips coming up where for various reasons I cannot take a DSLR or my NEX-7. This new little camera should do quite nicely. I would have liked a slightly longer zoom range but on the other hand, the awesome sensor (for a camera of this size) and that wonderful lens are far more compelling. This will be a great supplement to my other cameras and will go places where they cannot.
Could it fit in a pocket if need be? And how do you like the EVF?
Very happy MK I owner here too. This is the camera that's always with me.
When can we get an ASP-C sensor in one of these things?
It's very possible, because they have the RX1, which is a bit bigger, but it's full frame.
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Finally got out with the RX100 MIII today and did some shooting. I really like that EVF and used it most of the time (it was a primary factor in my interest in this camera in the first place). I shot some scenes with both the RX100 MIII and my Sony NEX-7, using similar settings and the same aperture. I haven't yet processed them yet as I had to go out later and was away from the computer for a while. The EVF is small but works well for me -- first time I used it I adjusted the diopter to my needs and have been very pleased. I think that while there will be times when the LCD screen is fine for shooting, that popup EVF will be my primary means of viewing scenes and focusing on them.
IMHO this camera is a little large to fit into many pockets -- I wouldn't attempt to put it into my jeans pockets, for instance -- but it will fit into my cargo pants or my cargo shorts pockets. Thing is, though, I usually have my iPhone in one pocket, too, and my keys in the other pocket. I am thinking that a lot of the time I will be toting the camera in one of the SF Bags/Waterfield Designs bags that I use for my iPad Air and my iPad Mini, especially the bag in which I carry the Mini, since it goes out-and-about with me everywhere. I use that as a "purse," and have done for quite some time now. After experimenting with the camera and how I could fit it into the bag, I found an Eagle Creek Travel Pack-It "Quarter Cube" pouch that works very nicely for this purpose, which will keep the camera safe and yet readily accessible -- the thin fabric doesn't add extra bulk and serves to at least protect the camera from anything which might scratch it (but the downside is that this doesn't provide padding). I also have a couple of small digital camera bags meant for P&S / Compact cameras which work well with it for those times when I just want to go out with the camera and maybe carry an extra battery and SD card, but not bother with a purse and am leaving the iPad at home. Today, for instance, I was out in the neighborhood with one camera (NEX-7) slung around my neck and then the other (RX-100 MIII) either in my hand or in the small bag.
This is a very quick, responsive camera and I am very, very pleased with it so far......
IMHO this camera is a little large to fit into many pockets -- I wouldn't attempt to put it into my jeans pockets, for instance -- but it will fit into my cargo pants or my cargo shorts pockets. Thing is, though, I usually have my iPhone in one pocket, too, and my keys in the other pocket. I am thinking that a lot of the time I will be toting the camera in one of the SF Bags/Waterfield Designs bags that I use for my iPad Air and my iPad Mini, especially the bag in which I carry the Mini, since it goes out-and-about with me everywhere. I use that as a "purse," and have done for quite some time now. After experimenting with the camera and how I could fit it into the bag, I found an Eagle Creek Travel Pack-It "Quarter Cube" pouch that works very nicely for this purpose, which will keep the camera safe and yet readily accessible -- the thin fabric doesn't add extra bulk and serves to at least protect the camera from anything which might scratch it (but the downside is that this doesn't provide padding). I also have a couple of small digital camera bags meant for P&S / Compact cameras which work well with it for those times when I just want to go out with the camera and maybe carry an extra battery and SD card, but not bother with a purse and am leaving the iPad at home. Today, for instance, I was out in the neighborhood with one camera (NEX-7) slung around my neck and then the other (RX-100 MIII) either in my hand or in the small bag.
This is a very quick, responsive camera and I am very, very pleased with it so far......
It's very possible, because they have the RX1, which is a bit bigger, but it's full frame.
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I would love me a rx1 even though no interchangeable lens system on that expensive bugger
Glad to hear you're happy with the camera. I'm strongly considering it. Would appreciate it if you could post some sample shots between the RX100 III and the NEX-7... I'm curious to see how well the 1" sensor fares, if this can be a good general-purpose/carry-everywhere kinda thing.
I had the Sony NEX-5T and just recently got the NEX-6. They basically make the same photos, but my main reason for switching is also the evf as mention by ''Clix Pix''. It makes photography in bright sun light so much easier. And the pop up flash is also a welcome addition.
Someone on another site had mentioned looking at microfibre sunglasses cases as a very lightweight, non-bulky cover for the RX100 M3 if one wants to stick t into a pocket or into a bag otter than a dedicated camera bag, while yet providing it with at least some modicum of scratch protection. So today I was at REI and found that they had these for around $5.00, so I picked one up just to see.... When I was at home I slipped the RX100 MIII into this thing and it went in there just as slick as anything -- bingo! A winner! Excellent, another alternative for carrying this camera around in various situations......Again, there is no padding provided so that is something to be considered. However, if the camera is also then in a transport vehicle (i.e., bag) which does provide some protection as well, then all is good.
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OH! Good point.
Couple things we have to put up with with an RX100.
1. The anti glare coating on the screen comes off and starts to look like frozen glass so if you get one, pay for the CORRECT screen protector that does not peel this off. You will be happier in the long run. My MK1 looks well used. I kind of like that because I bought it to use but resale value is likely nada because cosmetically it looks beat to hell.
2. The design of the lens is a dust sucker. If you put it in your pocket, it will gather dust, lint etc in the gaps of the lens and eventually you will be on youtube looking at how to remove it from the sensor - it is easy but tedious. So put it in a baggy or cover of some sort. I have 2 options, a Domke wrap when it is in my bag and a LowePro case over the shoulder when I need it more readily at hand. For reference, I have had my MK1 for over 2 years now and I have only had visible dust on the sensor once.
3. The paint wears easily on the focus wheel and the corners. This is a cosmetic point but will put off second owners.
Hope this helps.
Ken.
Haven't go the screen protector yet. I'm mulling over whether to go with the one Sony offers which is presumably the correct fit for the camera, or with a glass version from a third-party vendor. I really am not keen on the idea of having to use a screen protector at all, frankly -- I've never had one on any of my iPhones and iPads through the years. However, the LCD screen on the RX 100 is probably not gorilla glass....
The Sony one uses adhesive specifically that doesn't peel the coating.
Trust me you will be happier in the long run. I could have cried the day my cheapo protector came off and my screen looked horrid. I can post pics if you like to help decision?
Thank you! Photos would be helpful! I am leaning in the direction of the Sony one because it would specifically be made to fit the camera precisely. That's a good point about the adhesive and peeling the coating.....hadn't even thought about that, since I am really not that familiar with screen protectors.
Here you go, shot of the screen from an angle to show the state of the coating.
It doesn't really affect the screen in normal use. You can still see it fine except in broad sunlight where you may have to tilt and turn it to get a good angle - but you would anyway - just makes it look ugly is all.
Just to be clear. All this apart, it is still SO worth it for the images it takes - with ease!
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Thank you! I was busy all day today with other things -- getting ready for a short trip -- so haven't ordered the LCD screen protector yet but I probably will get to it tomorrow or if not then when I return.
Hi ClickPix, what is your feel for the RX100 MKIII? is it good?
Thx
Ken.
I love this little camera! I put her through her paces at Longwood Gardens in Pennsylvania under lousy weather conditions/varying light situations and she came through with flying colors (although, yes, I still had to do some tinkering in Aperture). This is one impressive little camera!
In a lot of cases where I was shooting the skies were sullen and grey but nonetheless the camera handled everything very well. I am more than happy!
In a lot of cases where I was shooting the skies were sullen and grey but nonetheless the camera handled everything very well. I am more than happy!
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I love this little camera! I put her through her paces at Longwood Gardens in Pennsylvania under lousy weather conditions/varying light situations and she came through with flying colors (although, yes, I still had to do some tinkering in Aperture). This is one impressive little camera!
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In a lot of cases where I was shooting the skies were sullen and grey but nonetheless the camera handled everything very well. I am more than happy!
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Nice. Soon as my MK1 is beyond use, I am having one!
Thanks,
Ken
There's a few comparisons over on dpreview between the RX100III and A6000 with the kit lens. You'll find that the RX lens is a lot sharper/better than the 16-50mm kit lens, so in good light, the RX images actually look quite a bit better. When DigitalRev did the Mark I review, they found it looked better than the T4i with kit lens too.
When the light drops though, the APS-C sensor will beat it in terms of noise, but you do still have a 1.8 lens vs 3.5, and a 5-axis image stabilization system, so you'll be doing at least 2 stops better with ISO on the RX. And in the comparisons with the A6000, even though there's more noise with high ISO pictures, the sharpness of the lens can still be seen (there's a picture of a globe and the text is still sharper despite more noise).
Always do your own evaluations though, because you'll always have your own point of view. Everything I looked at online suggested there wasn't a big difference between the best APS-C sensors like in the A6000 and full frame ones like in the A7, but overall, I found there to be plenty difference, using both.
When the light drops though, the APS-C sensor will beat it in terms of noise, but you do still have a 1.8 lens vs 3.5, and a 5-axis image stabilization system, so you'll be doing at least 2 stops better with ISO on the RX. And in the comparisons with the A6000, even though there's more noise with high ISO pictures, the sharpness of the lens can still be seen (there's a picture of a globe and the text is still sharper despite more noise).
Always do your own evaluations though, because you'll always have your own point of view. Everything I looked at online suggested there wasn't a big difference between the best APS-C sensors like in the A6000 and full frame ones like in the A7, but overall, I found there to be plenty difference, using both.
Interesting- is the comparison in the forums? Because I didn't see that in the reviews. Do you have a link?
I'm lazy and unmotivated, so a quick Googling revealed this one:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3697220
Pretty amazing, I have to admit. Also, if anyone has owned Canons before and switched to Sony, you might have noticed how Canon JPEGs are more contrasty and saturated OOC compared to Sony. The RX100 files look more like Canon JPEGs than Sony's APS-C JPEGs, although the Sony FF ones aren't bad.
And I'll attach the image directly too:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3697220
Pretty amazing, I have to admit. Also, if anyone has owned Canons before and switched to Sony, you might have noticed how Canon JPEGs are more contrasty and saturated OOC compared to Sony. The RX100 files look more like Canon JPEGs than Sony's APS-C JPEGs, although the Sony FF ones aren't bad.
And I'll attach the image directly too:
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It's heavy handed on the RX100, but relatively light on the A6000/A7.
Goes to show how much difference a lens makes eh?
Goes to show how much difference a lens makes eh?