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This raises the question - what isn't a Mac with 8gb ram sufficient for, and who are the people who specifically need more and for some reason can't get the MBP with the M3 Pro chip or better?I think 8GB/ 256GB is fine for most people.
Most people use a computer for e-mail, word processing, and cloud based applications.
Most people, for consumer use, use it to store their photos, or make low quality home movies using iMovie.
However, I have no idea what "professionals" are
This raises the question - what isn't a Mac with 8gb ram sufficient for, and who are the people who specifically need more and for some reason can't get the MBP with the M3 Pro chip or better?
For me it’s the size of the trunk as I wrote somewhere else. There are people who need the space there are people who don’t. And there are people filling it with junk.Snip.
I don't quite agree with the idea that the 8gb ram standard is planned obsolescence, but it does seem like a beancounter move, like a cheesy Nissan Versa for "$14k out the door*" where * means No A/C, side mirrors, radio, or adjustable seats
For me it’s the size of the trunk as I wrote somewhere else. There are people who need the space there are people who don’t. And there are people filling it with junk.
More RAM doesn’t give you any functionality if you don’t need it.
Then there are people who are driving to McDonalds.Then there's the people who think a normal sized vehicle is inadequate and have to drive something abhorrent, even if it's just to McDonalds.
That is a normal sized truck vehicle in the US.Then there's the people who think a normal sized vehicle is inadequate and have to drive something abhorrent, even if it's just to McDonalds.
I disagree.I think it’s the wrong question. It isn’t so much “who is this good for” but “is this acceptable at this price point.” Because it can be true that this is sufficient for plenty of people, but equally true that at $1100 (or $1300 for the 15” MBA or the most egregious, $1600 14” MBP, granted that one is 8/512), it isn’t at all acceptable in today’s pricing.
And if your response to that statement is, “you can get an M2 or $100 less or an M1 for $700,” that’s exactly my point. I think you can make an argument that at $700, the late-2020 M1 MacBook Air is a decent value. I think dropping the M2 to $999 is closer, but not quite there, but if you can find that under $1000, I think that’s getting in the right realm.
I don’t think, regardless of use case, that $1100 in 2024 for an 8/256 laptop is something appropriate to sell. Especially when it would cost dollars to bump this up to 16GB/512. Hell, keep the SSD at 256. But keeping the memory at 8GB is just the epitome of greed. Apple products almost always commander a premium. That’s fine. The premium here required not just for the base models, but even worse, the upgrade costs, is what feels like robbery.
Then there's the people who think a normal sized vehicle is inadequate and have to drive something abhorrent, even if it's just to McDonalds.