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wheelhot

macrumors 68020
Nov 23, 2007
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To me, I dun like the idea of netbook and how the manufacturers is pushing netbooks to become like your primary all purpose notebook (bigger screens? like wtf?). I understand why a netbook will be useful but I prefer Apple to stay out from the Netbook business, at least give the market 3-5 years growth, only then Apple should consider making a netbook.

For now, I would prefer a accessory that adds battery life (for iPhone users) and a slide keyboard to your iPhone/iPod Touch. Too bad such accessory haven't exist yet :( *hint* *hint*
 

Xfujinon

macrumors 6502
Jul 27, 2007
304
0
Iowa City, Iowa
I've read these threads for months now. I've also been taking stock of the current tech industry, and as a total neophyte to computers and so forth, I have a few (perhaps ignorant) opinions of my own. Here is what I see happening:

1. Downloadable content will become the de facto standard for those who want it to be. There isn't any reason why physical media, DVDs, BRDs, etc. cannot continue to be produced, they just will progressively wane in importance. Similar to how DVDs inched in on VHS; progressive rather than abrupt market transition meanwhile sucking every last penny from the outgoing standard while also profiting like crazy from the overpriced emerging standard.

2. Online software will become more prevalent as widespread, high-speed wireless access becomes ubiquitous.

3. Cloud storage of most photos, videos, music, etc (subscription access services to entire catalogs, labels, and so on) will take over. Home servers will fulfill other storage needs at various levels of complexity.

4. Desktops and conventional laptops will be replaced by tablet-esque devices in a variety of form factors, from iPod touch sized all the way to full-blown 12" or so slab sized. These will have solid state drives, ARM-based or otherwise low power CPUs, and will use something like CF cards or SD cards as swappable storage media. Everyone at home will have 50" or 60" or whatever sized LCDs, TVs, monitors, you name it. The little tablet thing you carry around is like the "brain", and the home server is kinda like the warehouse. You can access all your stuff on the go anywhere from your little
"brain" tablet. Meanwhile, when you go home, or to the office, to the dentist, or anywhere for that matter, you simply plug in the little "brain" tablet into a monitor-keyboard-mouse or whatever setup. Presto, all your junk at your fingertips ANYWHERE.

Bottom line: the iPod touch concept will metastasize into being powerful enough or capable enough to function as a standalone tablet thing that will simply be plugged into giant monitors, projectors, screens, etc. of all types anywhere you go. And, thanks to wireless and your server/cloud depot, you can access junk anywhere.

Sounds like the best solution to many, many problems. You can work in low-power options and renewable power sources for many of these and drastically cut energy usage. Big companies can downsize because work can be done anywhere, requiring less physical space for big companies to rent, own, buy, etc. More and more people will do their work at home, or in communal settings, rather than corporate metropolises.

I'm digressing...


I think Apple sees this progression, and realizes that the future of mobile computing and specifically small form-factor, full-powered devices is the next iPod-like market. Other competitors are already marching down that road (Sony's looks awesome!), it is only a matter of time before conventional desktop sales are roughly 1/3 of laptop sales, then 1/4, then 1/5, and so on down the line. Frankly, I don't see the need for desktops in about 80% of the workflows I encounter. I don't think they will ever die completely, but they certainly won't be the living room appliance they are today. Apple is waiting for the netbook market to begin to move toward the scheme I proposed above (just like the MP3 player market before the iPod) before they add their offering to the table.

No earlier than 2011 is my guess. Solid state drives need to drop to about 40% of current prices, market penetration of touch-driven interfaces needs to be widespread, and people need to above all feel an overwhelming compulsive NEED to have their digital life as on hand and accessible they same way they need their cell phone, wallet, car keys, etc. Convergence is happening (iPhone), but it takes time.

That's my 50,000,000 Turkish lira (2 cents).
 

Dmac77

macrumors 68020
Jan 2, 2008
2,165
3
Michigan
I've read these threads for months now. I've also been taking stock of the current tech industry, and as a total neophyte to computers and so forth, I have a few (perhaps ignorant) opinions of my own. Here is what I see happening:

1. Downloadable content will become the de facto standard for those who want it to be. There isn't any reason why physical media, DVDs, BRDs, etc. cannot continue to be produced, they just will progressively wane in importance. Similar to how DVDs inched in on VHS; progressive rather than abrupt market transition meanwhile sucking every last penny from the outgoing standard while also profiting like crazy from the overpriced emerging standard.

2. Online software will become more prevalent as widespread, high-speed wireless access becomes ubiquitous.

3. Cloud storage of most photos, videos, music, etc (subscription access services to entire catalogs, labels, and so on) will take over. Home servers will fulfill other storage needs at various levels of complexity.

4. Desktops and conventional laptops will be replaced by tablet-esque devices in a variety of form factors, from iPod touch sized all the way to full-blown 12" or so slab sized. These will have solid state drives, ARM-based or otherwise low power CPUs, and will use something like CF cards or SD cards as swappable storage media. Everyone at home will have 50" or 60" or whatever sized LCDs, TVs, monitors, you name it. The little tablet thing you carry around is like the "brain", and the home server is kinda like the warehouse. You can access all your stuff on the go anywhere from your little
"brain" tablet. Meanwhile, when you go home, or to the office, to the dentist, or anywhere for that matter, you simply plug in the little "brain" tablet into a monitor-keyboard-mouse or whatever setup. Presto, all your junk at your fingertips ANYWHERE.

Bottom line: the iPod touch concept will metastasize into being powerful enough or capable enough to function as a standalone tablet thing that will simply be plugged into giant monitors, projectors, screens, etc. of all types anywhere you go. And, thanks to wireless and your server/cloud depot, you can access junk anywhere.

Sounds like the best solution to many, many problems. You can work in low-power options and renewable power sources for many of these and drastically cut energy usage. Big companies can downsize because work can be done anywhere, requiring less physical space for big companies to rent, own, buy, etc. More and more people will do their work at home, or in communal settings, rather than corporate metropolises.

I'm digressing...


I think Apple sees this progression, and realizes that the future of mobile computing and specifically small form-factor, full-powered devices is the next iPod-like market. Other competitors are already marching down that road (Sony's looks awesome!), it is only a matter of time before conventional desktop sales are roughly 1/3 of laptop sales, then 1/4, then 1/5, and so on down the line. Frankly, I don't see the need for desktops in about 80% of the workflows I encounter. I don't think they will ever die completely, but they certainly won't be the living room appliance they are today. Apple is waiting for the netbook market to begin to move toward the scheme I proposed above (just like the MP3 player market before the iPod) before they add their offering to the table.

No earlier than 2011 is my guess. Solid state drives need to drop to about 40% of current prices, market penetration of touch-driven interfaces needs to be widespread, and people need to above all feel an overwhelming compulsive NEED to have their digital life as on hand and accessible they same way they need their cell phone, wallet, car keys, etc. Convergence is happening (iPhone), but it takes time.

That's my 50,000,000 Turkish lira (2 cents).

Dear God, I hope not. I want my desktop, and my 17" behemoth laptop. Not just a little iPhone that plugs into a docking station and gets data sent to it from a home server. I don't want that at all.

Don
 

tuckerja

macrumors member
Here's my theory (and dream of future portable computing). If apple does release a netbook it will fall along the same lines as your theory, except for a few things. I think that Apple is waiting for data connectivity to become powerful enough over wireless networks to create a cloud OS or server for OSX. This could initially be used for the iPhone, but also be used for some sort of netbook. You could get your tiny apple netbook which would have OS X on it, but iLife would be used over the network and files would be held on a private server such as an imac, or mac pro. This would allow the netbook to have an extremely small ssd and less memory, but a more powerful network card. This would be a netbook that actually only uses the net, but would be able to create and edit files files from a remote server over the internet.

This is all a little far off from now, but would create a much better netbook experience than a tiny crappy computer with a slow running xp or limited linux.

Probably wont happen for a long time, if it does actually happen.
 

iMacmatician

macrumors 601
Jul 20, 2008
4,249
55
If Apple's going to do a net book, it'll more then likely be breakthrough like normal and far from the norm. To compensate it missing the normal Mac package, Apple will make online applications.
I definitely agree with this quote, Apple's not known for following the crowd. I think however, that Apple's "netbook" will be a larger iPod touch instead of a smaller MacBook (Air). So it might have mobile versions of iLife and iWork that are tightly integrated with iWork.com.

...
Bottom line: the iPod touch concept will metastasize into being powerful enough or capable enough to function as a standalone tablet thing that will simply be plugged into giant monitors, projectors, screens, etc. of all types anywhere you go. And, thanks to wireless and your server/cloud depot, you can access junk anywhere.
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No earlier than 2011 is my guess.
I completely agree that this may be the future, although I see it later in the 2010's. Basically I see one desktop of some sort acting as a server type device and smaller iPhone OS devices everywhere else. An interesting probable consequence of this is that the iPhone OS will displace Mac OS X significantly.

This "Mac OS 11" speculated occasionally...will it be from the iPhone OS rather than from Mac OS X?
 

puffnstuff

macrumors 65816
Jan 2, 2008
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0
I would love to see the iPod Touch evolve into a UMPC and not as restrictive when it comes to 3rd party attachments and apps. Of course they would have to drop the iPod.
 

PowerFullMac

macrumors 601
Oct 16, 2006
4,000
2
Acer got a marketshare increase of around 50% because of their netbooks, hopefully Apple will look at this and think "hey, wait a minute..." and do a netbook. Only time will tell, though...
 

coupdetat

macrumors 6502
Jul 11, 2008
451
0
Acer got a marketshare increase of around 50% because of their netbooks, hopefully Apple will look at this and think "hey, wait a minute..." and do a netbook. Only time will tell, though...

Yeah, I'm sure Apple will follow into the market at some point. They have billions just waiting to be invested in product while competitors are struggling. I think this is just a case of "people-don't-want-to-watch-video" Jobsness.
 
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