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Seiga

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Jun 21, 2010
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Also, as far as the removable batteries and SD card slots for phones. I could care less for that ability. I prefer the clean design of the iphone with minimal slots and also not having "Sprint, Verizon, or AT&T" plastered on my phone is also nice. I don't want to have to buy extra batteries and memory cards or carry them around with me. If you want more capacity buy the 64GB iphone. And any music I need is available via iTunes Match and my photos go to photo stream. If you need to power up bring a charging cable or as I do I have a charging cable at home, at work, and in my car.

It's called open software for a reason. The manufacturers can do what they want and stick a warranty under that. Users can root and decide how they would like to customize their experience as much as they want.

Can an iPhone do the levels of customization with ease that the Android platform can? I don't think so.
 

Seiga

macrumors regular
Jun 21, 2010
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iOS has choice? Lololololololololol

Please enlighten me on these "choices" you have with you ever so heavily dumbed down and restricted operating system.

If would love to hear these choices as well.
 

G51989

macrumors 68030
Feb 25, 2012
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NYC NY/Pittsburgh PA
I'd have to agree with an earlier post, Apple/every other mobile phone company in the world is just looking to pump out as many phones as they can using the cheapest materials available to them.
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Fixed that for ya. Its called business.

Apple has set themselves apart with their machining capabilities.

Huh? I can make a iPhone case in my garage with my CNC no problem. There is nothing special about how an iPhone case is made.

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Because they're a shameless, uninspired tech company only concerned with reaping the greatest profits. At least, that's my impression of them. They don't seem to care about making quality devices or having good support. Their screens are cheap, the materials they use are cheap, it's all about $$$.

HTC is a far better brand, IMO.

Better not buy a rMBP, with its Samsung memory, Samsung SSD, and its Samsung Screen, cheap crap. ;)

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Well I don't know why you guys are still even here if you enjoy using cheap flimsy toys because the thinkpad offers far better value than the mba, the nexus7 is better and cheaper than the ipad mini, the note2 is better than the iphone5 and the nexus10 destroys the ipad4.

And plastic is cheap, unattractive and less durable than aluminum. You can use fancy words like polycarbonate unibody or military grade polymer. It doesn't matter plastic will always be prone to cracks, flexing and discoloration. You can argue that plastic is lighter and offers better signal reception. Well that didn't stop apple from making outstanding products. Don't blame it on the materials, blame it on the engineers that design these cheap flimsy toys.

You guys obviously don't appreciate outstanding craftsmanship so I don't see a point of staying on these forums.

Yep, NOTHING good is made of plastic.....

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( Yes, its mostly made of plastic with a couple of metal struts. )


:rolleyes: Just a bit more complicated than a phone, and just a BIT more durable. I'd love to see Apple build something like that. Oh wait, they can't.

Apple is a good company, but they arent the end all be all of everything.

There is nothing wrong with using durable plastics in phones.
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
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Fixed that for ya. Its called business.



Huh? I can make a iPhone case in my garage with my CNC no problem. There is nothing special about how an iPhone case is made.

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Better not buy a rMBP, with its Samsung memory, Samsung SSD, and its Samsung Screen, cheap crap. ;)

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Yep, NOTHING good is made of plastic.....

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( Yes, its mostly made of plastic with a couple of metal struts. )


:rolleyes: Just a bit more complicated than a phone, and just a BIT more durable. I'd love to see Apple build something like that. Oh wait, they can't.

Apple is a good company, but they arent the end all be all of everything.

There is nothing wrong with using durable plastics in phones.

I agree with your last point. But the iPhone 5 is seemingly more durable than the GS3, is lighter, thinner, and looks nicer. So...what's your counterargument for using plastic?

There is an obvious distinction between durable plastic and fragile, cheap plastic. Unfortunately, it's the latter that Samsung employs on all its phones, and then coats them with that glossy sheen *shudders*
 

G51989

macrumors 68030
Feb 25, 2012
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NYC NY/Pittsburgh PA
I agree with your last point. But the iPhone 5 is seemingly more durable than the GS3, is lighter, thinner, and looks nicer. So...what's your counterargument for using plastic?

Depends on the phone, and plastic. I have an old IPAQ, and a couple older feature phones from back in the day, and they can take more abuse than a GS3 or iphone.

The GS3's plastic is just to think for its own good, I have one, I would know, but I keep it in a case anyway so it doesn't matter at least for me.

Plenty of Plastic phones that are super durable.

There is an obvious distinction between durable plastic and fragile, cheap plastic. Unfortunately, it's the latter that Samsung employs on all its phones, and then coats them with that glossy sheen *shudders*

Ive dropped my old Samsung Android Phone a million times, never cracked, screen was plastic and never shattered.

You cant just look at the GS3 and say " all plastic is crap "
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
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You cant just look at the GS3 and say " all plastic is crap "

Never did. Samsung is incessant with releasing plastic phones with ugly designs, though, and I've had a plastic Samsung phone too. It was horribly low quality.
 

craftytony

macrumors regular
Oct 3, 2012
226
0
Sycamore, IL
Is someone going to post a black pot and black kettle picture?

Trolla lolla lola

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Fixed that for ya. Its called business.
There is nothing wrong with using durable plastics in phones.

There is probably nothing wrong with making a plastic rolex either...

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Typically people who state "Wouldn't be worth my time" are the ones that really can't state said argument.

And it's not a fandroid statement when you state obvious facts. I just don't think you have any quantitative arguments to support your cause.

or......it's not worth my time to educate a troll ;P
 

Seiga

macrumors regular
Jun 21, 2010
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Trolla lolla lola

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There is probably nothing wrong with making a plastic rolex either...

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or......it's not worth my time to educate a troll ;P

Technically you just contradicted yourself by responding to my post. You're already wasting your time with your response.

So I'm just going to say you can't provide an answer.
 

surjavarman

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Nov 24, 2007
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The iPad mini gets rave reviews right now. And thats only because its a thin, light and attractive design. Yet the nexus 7 has the better specs and more value. Apple knows how to please to crowd

This is one of those things where I think what the hell are they thinking over at Google and Samsung. "Lets make things from plastic and as cheap as possible and lets pump out as many of them as possible. That will win them over." WRONG!
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
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The iPad mini gets rave reviews right now. And thats only because its a thin, light and attractive design. Yet the nexus 7 has the better specs and more value. Apple knows how to please to crowd

This is one of those things where I think what the hell are they thinking over at Google and Samsung. "Lets make things from plastic and as cheap as possible and lets pump out as many of them as possible. That will win them over." WRONG!

Specs don't matter nearly as much as the ecosystem in this case. All reviewers point toward the app selection as the main selling point.

Great build quality and some competent specs help.
 

Jibbajabba

macrumors 65816
Aug 13, 2011
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Heh - until a couple of years ago - mobiles / cells were always made of plastic - never seen a metal / glass Nokia before :p
 

kiltedthrower

macrumors regular
Aug 24, 2012
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Well I don't know why you guys are still even here if you enjoy using cheap flimsy toys because the thinkpad offers far better value than the mba, the nexus7 is better and cheaper than the ipad mini, the note2 is better than the iphone5 and the nexus10 destroys the ipad4.

And plastic is cheap, unattractive and less durable than aluminum. You can use fancy words like polycarbonate unibody or military grade polymer. It doesn't matter plastic will always be prone to cracks, flexing and discoloration. You can argue that plastic is lighter and offers better signal reception. Well that didn't stop apple from making outstanding products. Don't blame it on the materials, blame it on the engineers that design these cheap flimsy toys.

You guys obviously don't appreciate outstanding craftsmanship so I don't see a point of staying on these forums.

Because it's a phone. Some of us don't look at our phones as asocial status.
 

craftytony

macrumors regular
Oct 3, 2012
226
0
Sycamore, IL
Technically you just contradicted yourself by responding to my post. You're already wasting your time with your response.

So I'm just going to say you can't provide an answer.

Technically I said, it wasn't worth explaining to you. Ridiculing you and seeing you get upset on the other hand is definitely worth my time :)

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Hot Damn! Why can't samesung make a phone as sexy as their dishwashers!?



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Fixed that for ya. Its called business.

Huh? I can make a iPhone case in my garage with my CNC no problem. There is nothing special about how an iPhone case is made.


Yes it is called business, and some companies decided to make profit by making a nicer product with better materials.

Who said anything about making a hack job iphone case? I'm talking about the iphone itself. Can you make an iphone in your garage?
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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Handgun as my avatar has a polymer frame which is notoriously durable. Whereas aluminum frame handguns are known for cracking. A lot of people will only buy steel or polymer and not consider aluminum. Just depends on type of plastic and and its application will determine which is more durable..

I just don't get why the aluminum back of the iPhone 5 is so magical. There is more aluminum in a soda can then on the phone. Devices have been using it for years. I was hoping we'd see liquid metal or something not as common as aluminum.

I don't have an S3 but from handling friends I don't feel like that's cheap plastic. Plastic yes, cheap no.....
 

diegoesk

macrumors regular
Dec 19, 2010
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Because they're a shameless, uninspired tech company only concerned with reaping the greatest profits. At least, that's my impression of them. They don't seem to care about making quality devices or having good support. Their screens are cheap, the materials they use are cheap, it's all about $$$.

HTC is a far better brand, IMO.

I think apple took a page out of their book with the iphone 5. Only thing, they suck at doing it lol (nicks and scratches)
 

Melab

macrumors regular
Aug 9, 2011
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26
Why are all samsung products made from cheap plastic? I mean I like their specs and prices and android is a capable OS. But why can't they just make a diamond cut titanium/magnesium/aluminum unibody fused seamlessly with glass. Precise and durable.

I wouldn't even consider the ipad mini, ipad4 or iphone5 if they could just offer me a quality piece of hardware. They obviously got the tech and internals that is superior to tech from Apple.

Design culture, maybe. It is probably a factor of different things. There are appealing design materials apart from titanium and glass. Take a Droid 2, for example.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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I think apple took a page out of their book with the iphone 5. Only thing, they suck at doing it lol (nicks and scratches)

I feel Apple has a similar approach. They make what looks and feels like a quality product but charge an outrageous amount for it.

There mobile devices aren't bad. But look at the iMac, it's expensive vs what you get and according to this forum (I was considering one) unreliable. Pages and pages of threads of people having hardware failures. It seems AppleCare is a must with them. But hey the design is beautiful I give it that.
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
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I think apple took a page out of their book with the iphone 5. Only thing, they suck at doing it lol (nicks and scratches)

Riiggghhhttttt. The iPhone 5 is the best built product on the market, you won't find any nicks or scratches on mine.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
I agree with your last point. But the iPhone 5 is seemingly more durable than the GS3, is lighter, thinner, and looks nicer. So...what's your counterargument for using plastic?

More durable based on what? Personally i dont care about phones being thinner. Too thin for me imo isnt a good thing. The GS3 is a pretty thin phone for its size and i put a Otterbox on it so how thin it originally is dont matter. Ill be getting a Nexus 4 which is a whole half a mm thicker. Oh the horrah!

Light is good but many here associate light with "feeling cheap".

There is an obvious distinction between durable plastic and fragile, cheap plastic. Unfortunately, it's the latter that Samsung employs on all its phones, and then coats them with that glossy sheen *shudders*

You dont know what your talking about. Regardless of what YOU think, their phones are built very well.

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The iPad mini gets rave reviews right now. And thats only because its a thin, light and attractive design. Yet the nexus 7 has the better specs and more value. Apple knows how to please to crowd

This is one of those things where I think what the hell are they thinking over at Google and Samsung. "Lets make things from plastic and as cheap as possible and lets pump out as many of them as possible. That will win them over." WRONG!

The Nexus 7 is selling 1 million a month right now.
 
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