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adder7712

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Then why would an Android device even have Safari in the reporting string?

This is my S3's user agent while on the stock browser.
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Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 4.1.2; en-gb; GT-I9300 Build/JZO54K) AppleWebKit/534.30 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/534.30

Perhaps to avoid any compatibility issues as many mobile sites are designed with iOS devices in mind.
 

DeathChill

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As far as anyone would know, when browsing on my Note 2 I am running Linux.




Michael

Just like when I use that same website it assumes I am running OS X on my iPhone.
 

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SlCKB0Y

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[*]Android users root their device and modify their user-agent string to impersonate a different browser. Yes, some geeks do that, but its definitely not widespread among the masses

Huh?

Pretty much every third party browser for Android allows you to change your user agent to multiple different options (without rooting), all of which will not count towards Android statistics.

Even the stock AOSP browser and Android Chrome allow you to "Request desktop site". Every time this feature is used these, the website view will not show up in logs as being Android. (enable this feature and view http://show-ip.net/browserinfo/ ).

This is far and away the biggest reason why Android is under represented in these kinds of articles.

There's nothing at all mysterious about this - I thought it was common knowledge. :confused:

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Just like when I use that same website it assumes I am running OS X on my iPhone.

No, not the same thing at all, that is an error with how the software on that particular website is interpreting your browser info. Look at the actual user agent in the text box, it clearly says "Mobile" and "iPhone".
 

DeathChill

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Huh?

Pretty much every third party browser for Android allows you to change your user agent to multiple different options (without rooting), all of which will not count towards Android statistics.

Even the stock AOSP browser and Android Chrome allow you to "Request desktop site". Every time this feature is used these, the website view will not show up in logs as being Android. (enable this feature and view http://show-ip.net/browserinfo/ ).

This is far and away the biggest reason why Android is under represented in these kinds of articles.

There's nothing at all mysterious about this - I thought it was common knowledge. :confused:

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No, not the same thing at all, that is an error with how the software on that particular website is interpreting your browser info. Look at the actual user agent in the text box, it clearly says "Mobile" and "iPhone".

Yes, I know. Just like it says Android in the user agent in Tinmania's picture. I was pointing out how the site was miscorrectly identifying things. :)


EDIT: As well, the number of people changing their user agent is probably relatively insignificant.
 
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Tinmania

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Yes, I know. Just like it says Android in the user agent in Tinmania's picture. I was pointing out how the site was miscorrectly identifying things. :)
Yes but that is a site designed to get it right. It is their sole purpose. If they get it wrong there is no way to trust sites where it is only casually checked--let alone attempts to aggregate it.




Michael
 

DeathChill

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Yes but that is a site designed to get it right. It is their sole purpose. If they get it wrong there is no way to trust sites where it is only casually checked--let alone attempts to aggregate it.




Michael
There are sites that will tell you the correct information. I'm going to guess this site needs to be updated.

As for the article stats, I'm under the impression that the company provides a tracking tool to the sites so they can get the information. When their job is to gather and sort this information I'd hope they wouldn't make such a simple mistake.
 

Tinmania

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There are sites that will tell you the correct information. I'm going to guess this site needs to be updated.

As for the article stats, I'm under the impression that the company provides a tracking tool to the sites so they can get the information. When their job is to gather and sort this information I'd hope they wouldn't make such a simple mistake.
Then re-read kdarlings post.

NetMarketShare's (Net Applications) numbers are at odds to other web stat counters with more sites, page counting, no weighting by country, etc. E.g., W3 Schools or StatCounter:

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Among other differences, NetMarketShare only looks at 40,000 websites, and they only count each visitor once a day. Meaning that if one visitor saw one page on a website, and another viewed 100 pages on that website, they count the same. In other words, the counter used for this thread doesn't actually tell us web usage, only # of their sites visited.

Other counters like StatCounter track over 3 million websites, and count each page view, giving far more of a web usage view. (And even that would overcount browsers that tend to reload pages a lot.)

It's also likely that iOS would show up more often in North America due to the dominance of the iPad in that region.

There may not be a good stat source for this, unless we had access to those internal phone logs that used to tell the carriers such statistics.


I agree with him.



Michael
 

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Sure. Can't say the same thing about the Samsung browser though. :rolleyes:

I'm curious as to what's wrong with it. It's the same stock browser as every Android phone. It works just as good on my One or S4.

that being said, I prefer Chrome on my Android devices.

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The internet experience on an Android device isn't as good as on iOS.

This is ridiculous to even claim. What's so superior about Mobile Safari?

I agree that it is a lag fest on ****** tablets and phones, but that hasn't been the case for quality Android devices in a long time.
 

Jessica Lares

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I'm curious as to what's wrong with it. It's the same stock browser as every Android phone. It works just as good on my One or S4.

that being said, I prefer Chrome on my Android devices.

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This is ridiculous to even claim. What's so superior about Mobile Safari?

I agree that it is a lag fest on ****** tablets and phones, but that hasn't been the case for quality Android devices in a long time.

Well, my Samsung S2 came with a horrible browser, so did my current phone. AOSP stock browser is fine though. And I like Chrome.

The thing is that the stock browsers on the phones that I have, like I mentioned, decided that the first time you used them, it was going to make the screen less bright for "better readability", which I think is total BS and probably is one of the first things that throw people off.
 

adder7712

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You can change the brightness in the default browser. Plus, the default browser on TouchWiz is just the default Android browser with a skin thrown on by Samsung. Underneath, there's no difference to the AOSP browser as they run on the same engine.
 
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