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That's easy. My iPhone 12 mini was discontinued. I refuse to hang on to an iPhone that was discontinued. However, I didn't know it had been, I have had problems with my battery that has never been replaced and the fact that my iPhone got hot enough to shut down even in a well shaded area. (I haven't noticed it yet on the current OS update, though.
 
Nope, just a hobby I enjoy. Skateboarding videos, my kids, and my cats. If it was a job I’m sure I’d have an actual camera. I upgrade through T-Mobile and the new phone installment plan just replaces the old one, so my bill doesn’t increase.
Just seemed like your statement was matter of fact that it was required that you have the best camera. Year over year though, the improvements in the camera aren’t very substantial. On the main sensor, what I would assume you use for skateboarding videos, the iPhone 14 PM and 15PM have the same sensor.
 
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No.. we have a passion for photography that requires the best cameras. The camera is just a tool, but in the hands of a professional, the better the camera, the better the results.
But year over year the iPhone camera doesn’t change enough to make that big of a difference. Sure the jump from the 13 pros to the 14 pros put a 48mp sensor on the main, but the 15 pm has the same sensor. Year over year upgrades don’t get amazing upgrades in the camera. It’s more about the shorter than the camera.
 
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But year over year the iPhone camera doesn’t change enough to make that big of a difference. Sure the jump from the 13 pros to the 14 pros put a 48mp sensor on the main, but the 15 pm has the same sensor. Year over year upgrades don’t get amazing upgrades in the camera. It’s more about the shorter than the camera.
Yes I agree that they are minimal upgrades but I can tell the difference & it’s worth it to me.

That’s apples marketing though, upgrading the iPhone just enough to make people like me buy another iPhone. Honestly though, I couldn’t keep the same iPhone for two - five years like a lot of people do, I get bored with the iPhone & cameras etc because I feel I’ve outgrown them, can’t push them any further. I like taking photos of the stars in the sky and I hope the next iPhone does a much better job and gives me more detail and resolution in the Milky Way and night sky. The fact that the optics are supposed to be multi-coated much better this time to reduce ghosting and flaring will be a nice change. I’m hoping that the 16 pro max main camera will have larger optics and good F-ratio to let more light in and give more resolution.

I take a lot of photos with my iPhone, in fact I shoot photos with my iPhone more than I use the the phone for web browsing or phone calls etc, It’s my camera, everything else comes after that. I really like ProRAW and high resolution photography.

A comparison of the 14 pro max & 15 pro max of the area of andromeda. No edits, straight out of the camera. These are cropped screenshots

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15 pro max, many more stars are visible in this example, a light polluted area. In a dark sky, the 15 pro max really does well.

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Yes I agree that they are minimal upgrades but I can tell the difference & it’s worth it to me.

That’s apples marketing though, upgrading the iPhone just enough to make people like me buy another iPhone. Honestly though, I couldn’t keep the same iPhone for two - five years like a lot of people do, I get bored with the iPhone & cameras etc because I feel I’ve outgrown them, can’t push them any further. I like taking photos of the stars in the sky and I hope the next iPhone does a much better job and gives me more detail and resolution in the Milky Way and night sky. The fact that the optics are supposed to be multi-coated much better this time to reduce ghosting and flaring will be a nice change. I’m hoping that the 16 pro max main camera will have larger optics and good F-ratio to let more light in and give more resolution.

I take a lot of photos with my iPhone, in fact I shoot photos with my iPhone more than I use the the phone for web browsing or phone calls etc, It’s my camera, everything else comes after that. I really like ProRAW and high resolution photography.

A comparison of the 14 pro max & 15 pro max of the area of andromeda. No edits, straight out of the camera. These are cropped screenshots

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15 pro max, many more stars are visible in this example, a light polluted area. In a dark sky, the 15 pro max really does well.

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I got ya, and I understand. I was the same way until the 14 PM. First iPhone in a very long time that I have kept longer than a year.
 
I got ya, and I understand. I was the same way until the 14 PM. First iPhone in a very long time that I have kept longer than a year.
I should probably keep my iPhone for two years… I guess next month I’ll find out if I really need another one or not. I should realize that the camera is on a phone. With the tiny sensor and optical design, it is limited. But I have a lot of fun shooting photos and videos with my iPhone. Being able to edit those images on the same device they were taken with is pretty cool. It seems to be my hobby. Photography and astronomy are what brings me joy. I’m 54 years old & I grew up in the era when film for cameras was the only option (other than a new camera body) which still used the same glass & projected an image on film. The quality of the film is what made the difference back then. So glad I don’t have to use film anymore.
 
I should probably keep my iPhone for two years… I guess next month I’ll find out if I really need another one or not. I should realize that the camera is on a phone. With the tiny sensor and optical design, it is limited. But I have a lot of fun shooting photos and videos with my iPhone. Being able to edit those images on the same device they were taken with is pretty cool. It seems to be my hobby. Photography and astronomy are what brings me joy. I’m 54 years old & I grew up in the era when film for cameras was the only option (other than a new camera body) which still used the same glass & projected an image on film. The quality of the film is what made the difference back then. So glad I don’t have to use film anymore.
Oh yeah if you really into photography, I don’t see why not upgrading yearly if you have the financial means. The camera is important to me, but not the most important. For me I still really like me 14 PM, so I am unsure about the 16 pro.
 
I should probably keep my iPhone for two years… I guess next month I’ll find out if I really need another one or not. I should realize that the camera is on a phone. With the tiny sensor and optical design, it is limited. But I have a lot of fun shooting photos and videos with my iPhone. Being able to edit those images on the same device they were taken with is pretty cool. It seems to be my hobby. Photography and astronomy are what brings me joy. I’m 54 years old & I grew up in the era when film for cameras was the only option (other than a new camera body) which still used the same glass & projected an image on film. The quality of the film is what made the difference back then. So glad I don’t have to use film anymore.
I'm a bit older and agree - the iPhone camera is not as overwhelming as a real mirrorless or DSLR these days. iPhones are merely quick point and snap tools - not real cameras.

I come from the old 35mm film cameras, large format Hasselblad 220 and motion picture 16/35/70mm Arri/Pana days = iPhones do not do justice.
 
I'm a bit older and agree - the iPhone camera is not as overwhelming as a real mirrorless or DSLR these days. iPhones are merely quick point and snap tools - not real cameras.

I come from the old 35mm film cameras, large format Hasselblad 220 and motion picture 16/35/70mm Arri/Pana days = iPhones do not do justice.
Yes, I agree that the iPhone camera is not superior or as good as a DSLR, but in some cases they do match pretty well if you’re using the same focal length optics. I’ve seen other professional photographers on YouTube using a canon R5 with a 24 mm lens and shooting the same scene with an iPhone 48 megapixel 24 mm lens and getting those two images printed out to a 20“ x 30“ print and it was very difficult to distinguish between the two cameras. So the iPhone will hold its own in certain situations. These days I don’t really lug my Sony A7RV DSLR around that often unless I’m using it for work or putting it on my star adventurer and taking photos of the night sky with my Sigma 135mm f/1.8. The iPhone is always with me, I have a couple of them that I use regularly for taking photos, videos, and time lapse. When I attach an external lens to the iPhone from Reeflex, I mostly use the 2X telephoto which will get me 48mm focal length at 48 megapixels, great for portraits.

So do you still shoot with film? Or do you find it more of a hassle now having to send it off to get developed to see what you got? The one thing I could not stand about film was its reciprocity failure. Trying to do Astrophotography with film was a nightmare unless you hypered it with hydrogen and nitrogen mix so it would maintain the ISO long enough to get a good exposure because the humidity would destroy the film ISO.
 
Yes, I agree that the iPhone camera is not superior or as good as a DSLR, but in some cases they do match pretty well if you’re using the same focal length optics. I’ve seen other professional photographers on YouTube using a canon R5 with a 24 mm lens and shooting the same scene with an iPhone 48 megapixel 24 mm lens and getting those two images printed out to a 20“ x 30“ print and it was very difficult to distinguish between the two cameras. So the iPhone will hold its own in certain situations. These days I don’t really lug my Sony A7RV DSLR around that often unless I’m using it for work or putting it on my star adventurer and taking photos of the night sky with my Sigma 135mm f/1.8. The iPhone is always with me, I have a couple of them that I use regularly for taking photos, videos, and time lapse. When I attach an external lens to the iPhone from Reeflex, I mostly use the 2X telephoto which will get me 48mm focal length at 48 megapixels, great for portraits.

So do you still shoot with film? Or do you find it more of a hassle now having to send it off to get developed to see what you got? The one thing I could not stand about film was its reciprocity failure. Trying to do Astrophotography with film was a nightmare unless you hypered it with hydrogen and nitrogen mix so it would maintain the ISO long enough to get a good exposure because the humidity would destroy the film ISO.
I still own my Sony A7III and a Minolta XD-7 when I want to do "serious" photography. But iPhone cameras, especially the last years became so good and flexible that I find the need to go through the trouble of carrying my DSLR less and less appealing.
 
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I still own my Sony A7III and a Minolta XD-7 when I want to do "serious" photography. But iPhone cameras, especially the last years became so good and flexible that I find the need to go through the trouble of carrying my DSLR less and less appealing.

I don't carry my camera at all anymore. There's just no point. My iPhone takes great photos.
 
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