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The only logical way to compare them is the shape of the rectangle cause thats the only thing aspect ratio is about.

If you cant handle abstract thinking thats your problem.

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Depends on what you mean.

16:10 offer relatively more vertical space.
16:9 offer relatively more horizontal space.

Let us take a trip down memory lane, back to high school algebra. How do we maximize the area of a rectangular shape given just a diagonal? Simple - it is a square.

Given that the ratio closest to 1:1 gives the most screen area, period.

16:9 = 1.777
16:10 = 1.6
1:1 = 1

Which is closer to maximizing area? 16:10.

Given the same pixel size a 16:10 display will fit more pixels. A 4:3 would give even more all the way to a 1:1 display which will maximize it.
 
Hey Pompous Comment-out-of-Malice Guy:

Are you implying that because I typoed "Area" as "Are," that my "edumacation" in English was inadequate?

All other variables being equal - 16:10 has more real estate than 16:9.

Just our of interest, how can you keep other variables (physical width and height, pixel density) constant but change the aspect ratio? If you change the aspect ratio, you must have changed other variables. Therefore your statement makes no sense.

If you instead stated "for a fixed horizontal width..." I would agree with you. If you fixed the number of vertical pixels though, then in fact the 16:9 screen has more area.

Cheerio.
 
This is the dumbest thread I've read in a long time.

16:10 is bigger and better than 16:9 when talking about a computer monitor of a fixed diagonal size.

Nuff said.

Pass the Haribo's.
 
Seriously this thread is still going? The definitive reason is that 16:9 makes Apple more money than if it was 16:10, and until that changes it will stay 16:9. End of story.
 
sigh

I can't believe that:
1) I read all 6 pages of this post;
2) it is 6 pages, so far;
3) it's over a year old;
4) I couldn't stop myself from contributing.

Let's toss out the math for a minute and discuss real-world applicability.

I've been in IT for... a while. When we started replacing CRT monitors with LCD monitors, they were 4:3 ratio, like the CRTs were. Back then, most users were still using one application at a time - in my particular case, many of the users were being transitioned from monochome terminals to PCs, so multitasking and using multiple apps at once was new anyway.

Average monitor size: 15". 17" for managers, 19" if you're showing off.

Then we went dual screen. Look, you can have a digital document on the left, and an input screen on the right! Screen prices dropped. Average user size: 17" for users, 19" for managers. Some users got to choose between dual 17" monitors or 1 19".

Then screens started going wide. 16:10 was the standard aspect ratio. They started going wide on notebooks first, in part, I believe, because it allowed the folding device to fit a more comfortable keyboard under the screen. a 4:3 ratio monitor on a notebook meant a tiny, uncomfortable keyboard. Desktop screens followed suit.

Eventually, as HDTV took off in the home and "16:9" became a commonly heard ratio (lol at that statement) it became a marketing point to tie monitors in with HDTV. At this point, monitor sizes in the lower 20s were more common, but resolutions were often still 1280x800 or similar. But tell someone that the monitor has the same "aspect ratio" as their HDTV, and it sounds improved! Voila, 16:9 gets tossed on top of "10,000:1 Contrast" and "6ms response" and all the other technical-but-really-marketing mess.

I've watched this evolution in monitors take place in the workplace. I can imagine it like a time-lapse video but over the course of 15 years. The answers to the question "which aspect ratio is better" in this thread has been all over the place, but no one really asked that question. The question was "Why aren't iMacs 16:10?" And the answer, as a few have pointed out, is "because." The industry moved to 16:9, mostly for marketing purposes, and it's worked itself into being a standard format for display manufacturers.

Which one is better? That depends. A 24" 16:10 monitor is going to be taller but not as wide as a 24" 16:9 monitor. As already pointed out, the "16" is just a part of a ratio, NOT a size measurement. To get to the 24", they have to adjust that diagonal line of measurement to get there. Increasing one decreases the other. A 24" 16:10 is NOT as wide as a 24" 16:9. I have a 20" 16:10 monitor at home, and a 20" 16:9 monitor at home. I have had them side-by-side. I can guarantee this.

Is the point to have more screen real estate? If it is, then yes, 1:1 is the goal, yet the industry has moved the opposite direction from 1:1 for the same reason the film industry did: the human visual input is by default a "wide angle" input. You see more horizontally than you do vertically.

From a productivity perspective, asking which one allows for more productivity... I think it's a highly subjective question, but I'll attempt to offer my *opinion* on it.

A *large* 16:9 monitor is a better choice when you're in a single monitor display scenario because "portrait" applications like word processors and web browsers do fit better side-by-side in 16:9 than they do in 16:10... again, so long as the monitor is of reasonable size, and its resolution is set to a reasonable default. 1280x720 is difficult to use in this way, but 1920x1080 and larger is great for having two browser screens or Word documents or Excel spreadsheets or whatever side-by-side on one screen.

A smaller screen and/or resolution benefits from a slightly taller aspect ratio because you're less likely to be opening two applications side-by-side on one screen; therefore your single application is given more vertical space. Additionally, if you're placing two smaller monitors in a dual monitor arrangement, 16:10 ratio makes sense because since you're already adding to your horizontal workspace, the vertical workspace is more valuable. BUT if you're using two larger monitors in a dual-monitor setup, 16:9 is again perfectly fine, because you have enough vertical real estate to manage a browser/application just fine, and can now essentially work as though you had 4 monitors by fitting 2x apps per monitor.

So which one is better? It all depends.

Why are the iMacs in 16:9? Again, probably because it's just what the LCD/LED market went to, so continuing the creation of 16:10 would cost more. But you could also argue that there is an assumption on Apple's part (likely backed by research) that most iMac users are using a single monitor configuration and that the screens are large enough with a large enough resolution to better benefit the user by allowing for multiple applications to be opened side-by-side without feeling as though they needed to add an extra monitor.

That is all.
 
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I have four iMacs at home.

Two are 4:3, two are 16:10.



Oh, you were talking about current iMacs? Sorry, can't help there.

kelub's answer is probably the best you're going to get.
 
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16:9 is BAD, period.
For those who say 16:9 is better for productivity because allows more applications side by side and talk against people who prefer 16:10...
You clearly don't use multi-monitors.

With 4:3, I was able to install 4 on the desk, and there is still room for a 5th one.
With 16:9, if I keep them in portrait, I can put only 3 screens on the desk instead of 5, and I lose the number of vertical pixels
If I rotate them in portrait, 16:9 ratio looks way too cramped. Must scroll constantly left&right.

16:9 is the worst ennemy of multi-monitor users.
I do congratulate Apple for keeping 16:10 ratio on laptops... But wondering why they discontinue it in both iMacs and standalone monitors at the same time.
Yes they save on production costs... but Apple hardware is very expensive. So why try saving few bucks on production costs ??


This is the main reason why I cannot have a mac at work.
Cannot put enough monitors, and lacks number of vertical pixels at 16:9.
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It may be the reason why you cannot have an iMac, but a Mac mini or Mac Pro or MacBook Pro would work just fine with a non 16:9 display.

Just find that funny...
My boss loves MACs so much, but when comes the time to connect many monitors (3+) to his Mac Mini, he's clueless on how to do it ;-) Still works on a tiny single 1680x1050 monitor.
I agree that in my case MacPro would probably be acceptable with Non-Apple monitors.

Been searching for large (>1600x1200) 4:3 displays with no luck. because I need more than 1200 pixels in both directions, and 1440p is not compatible with my multimon setup.
Even 16:10 is getting hard to find to get something.
I'm just about to order a Dell U3014 (2560x1600) but geez... Value is 1599$ CAD + taxes. I'll have to think twice...
If Apple would still offer a such resolution in iMacs, would definitely attrack quite a number of people. And bring the price of these LCD panels down a bit.


But at least you registered here and found this thread.

2 things brought me to this Apple forum:
- Windows 8. Apple resisted this non-sense to build a Phone UI on a Desktop.
- The fact that Apple is the only one in the world to still sell 16:10 laptops (was hoping other products too)
 
the real question is, why iMac Pro screen has a consumer screen ratio??

where is the "pro" in the screen??


are we, "pro editing users", scare of having black bars under/above when watching "toy story" on our new Pro iMac??

are we going to watch "toy Story" on them?

are we?
 
the real question is, why iMac Pro screen has a consumer screen ratio??

where is the "pro" in the screen??


are we, "pro editing users", scare of having black bars under/above when watching "toy story" on our new Pro iMac??

are we going to watch "toy Story" on them?

are we?
Woah, congrats on resurrecting a 4-and-a-half-year old thread! I'm not sure why the iMac Pro having a consumer screen ratio bothers you that much. And let me give you that answer: The "pro" in the screen is its build quality, and being a 5K screen, is not so much "consumer" as you'd like to think.
What you "pro editing users" are and are not doing with your iMac Pro, that's up to your personal preference. Hope that helped!
 
wow, it's 2019 and Apple still mounting 16:9 panels in "Pro" machines, is a real SHAME iMac Pro is 16:9

by the way, I've been reading this thread and is amazing how people can be so unreal, adult people with right to vote in elections a new president who doesn't know even to make simple mathematics, at same diagonal size, i.e. 27" 16:9 is and will be always, at least in this universe, smaller than 16:10, the closer you are from 16:16, the bigger, this is not an opinion, is a empiric fact, those whose say opposite is because their ignorance, sorry this is not an insult, is a fact.

by the way, this is not the important thing, the important thing is that 16:9 will be great for a 30" screens, but a 27" screen destined for pro users who need to edit (MAN!!!!) 16:9, would need some space for tools!!! is so hard to understand???

why Apple still building machines to watch 1080 movies?? where is the support for PRO users? oh right there is the touchbar, the killer feature all hollywood studios and production agencies can't live without.

the fact is 16:10 screens still exist in the PRO market, only real PRO companies build them for real PRO users, looks Eizo or Pro Dells, which ALL are 16:10

Sadly, Apple isn't one of them
 
This is thread necro at it's finest.
No kidding!
is a real SHAME iMac Pro is 16:9
Seriously? Are you older than 12 years old? If so, I feel sorry for you.

Hmmm... I make my living in front of mine and the two, new 16:9 27" 4K monitors that flank the sides. Pro enough for me.

Don't worry, I will never look at this silly thread again.
 
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