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iPhone X Why do 1st gen Apple products get criticized when the next iPhone X will be allegedly similar to now
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I’m so excited! Can you tell me what’s better?
[doublepost=1534825310][/doublepost]I haven’t really experienced kinks with my iPhone X.
I find it heavy and thick and seems to be scratch prone but that’s not really a kink.
The notch doesn’t bother me.
It works great. No issues.
So did I. And it was a chore dealing with the poor memory during the lead up to the iPhone X launch. Constant safari and app refreshes anytime you try to multitask and just poor sluggish performance when any new iOS version dropped. This has been pretty well documented here. Compared to the 6S, which was an all around better performing phone that wasn’t crushed under the weight of new iOS iterations, the 6 was terrible.
Personal preference really. I couldn’t care less about a better front camera but more RAM & better back camera with Plus size screen width will get me to upgrade.
The main reason for avoiding is because no first gen product has ever been tested in real world with millions going through production line. People try to avoid having to deal with manufacturing issues. There have been some known issues, as mentioned earlier. A second / third gen product is always more refined and has stood the test of time through real users.
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The biggest criticism from me would be the limitations of Face ID at present.
Just change of form factor is not considered improvements. If Apple enhances the Face ID feature and make it more accessible then that would be a deal maker for me.
- iPhone 5 didn’t have Touch ID. 5S did.
- iPhone 6 / 6 Plus had the same Touch ID sensor as the 5S.
- 2nd gen Touch ID was released with the 6S.
The iPhone 6 was the only iPhone I’ve ever sold after two months of use because I saw no real performance improvement over my 5S. I went back to using my 5S until the 6S came out which was a very noticeable improvement in performance and functionality. I liked the 6S so much I used it until I got my X and kept it as a backup phone/iPod... The 6S was the phone the 6 should of been...
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I’ve been following the rumors for the next iPhone X, and it seems like it’s going to be similar to the current one.
So why was there criticism for the current iPhone X and people saying to avoid a first generation Apple product?
[doublepost=1534799084][/doublepost]I love my iPhone X. The only thing I would like to see is it become thinner, lighter, and more durable bc for some reason my screen and stainless steel band have more light scratches than previous iPhones I’ve had. And the oleophobic coating wared off quick too
But I don’t think that’s a first gen issue, especially if the next gen allegedly is the same form factor...
Well for one you’ve said it yourself about the stainless steel trim scratching, they could fix that, they could make the glass stronger, they’ll give it a faster processor.
They also make changes in the internal design and don’t forget they are apparently exclusively using Intel modems so they’ll need to make changes on he board for it, you won’t notice them though.
Also, and this seems to be the buggy, they may improve Face ID, it really really seems to be marmite and it either works or doesn’t. IMO I don’t think it’s been as successful as Touch ID, so they are rumoured to be improving it.
Also they ‘may’ build it for lower costs so they can maintain their big mark ups and reduce the RRP of the phones, but we will see with that one.
No doubt we’ll also get the inevitable speed increase according to Apple and Geekbench scores, like every year.
They can do lots to improve on the X, like they do every year with their iPhones.
I agree. I didn’t have much choice with the 6 because I had started to use the 5S for development work by then and the 6 did provide the bigger screen.
Because you never ever had to worry about the iPhone orientation to unlock it with Touch ID. Is it wrong to expect its replacement Face ID to work the same?
I’ve been following the rumors for the next iPhone X, and it seems like it’s going to be similar to the current one.
So why was there criticism for the current iPhone X and people saying to avoid a first generation Apple product?
[doublepost=1534799084][/doublepost]I love my iPhone X. The only thing I would like to see is it become thinner, lighter, and more durable bc for some reason my screen and stainless steel band have more light scratches than previous iPhones I’ve had. And the oleophobic coating wared off quick too
But I don’t think that’s a first gen issue, especially if the next gen allegedly is the same form factor...
History shows buying 1st gen apple products is not a wise investment for long term use. For short term sure but long term no. Thats why they get criticised. Know your history.
^^ this, 100%
Original iPhone - we’ll probably not fair to count that one.
iPhone 3G, 4, 5, 6 — all replaced with an identical but much better specced ‘s’ model. Then we get to the territory of iPhone 7 and 8 which were, realistically, additional ‘s’ models of the iPhone 6, so can’t be classed as first-gen. But the point is, all of those ‘s’ models have demonstrated longevity that the first-gen version didn’t manage.
Others may think differently, but I’ve always appreciated the spec bumps more than the flashy all-new designs. They have shown themselves over and over to be the better investments if you plan to keep a phone longer than a year. We don’t know how the X will fare, but it’s a safe bet that it will suffer in long-term comparison to its more powerful, ten months younger siblings.
I really never had any problems with it. I could still be using it now if I didn't have the itch for something new. I guess I never pushed it very hard. But even so, 3 years before it started to struggle (for some) doesn't seem bad to me.
With the iPhone X we’ve had reports of dust under the camera glass and also the camera glass just randomly cracking, some saying due to the way it’s made and put in the phone, although I’m not sure about that, it’s definitely not due to its size as watches have had far bigger pieces for years without issues, unless you drop them.
Anyway point being, first gen Apple issues that will be fixed in the second gen. Apple Watch first gen has suffered from swelling batt rues pushing the screen off, Apple repair programme ensued, and the reports of this in the Series 1 and newer models are much reduced.
iPhone 6 bendgate, fixed in the 6S by changes to the internal structure design.
iPhone 4 antenna gate, fixed in the 4S and newer.
Although I have to say so far we haven’t had any major issues report d with the X, then again it’s taken a while for the Apple Watch series 0 issue to come into the public domain.
Anyway point being, first gen Apple issues that will be fixed in the second gen. Apple Watch first gen has suffered from swelling batt rues pushing the screen off, Apple repair programme ensued, and the reports of this in the Series 1 and newer models are much reduced.
iPhone 6 bendgate, fixed in the 6S by changes to the internal structure design.
iPhone 4 antenna gate, fixed in the 4S and newer.
Although I have to say so far we haven’t had any major issues report d with the X, then again it’s taken a while for the Apple Watch series 0 issue to come into the public domain.
Lol you are right, my mistake. This means then that there was actually nothing that impressed me about the iPhone 6 Plus.
I did have the 5 but my gf had the 5s and she found Touch ID so frustratingly bad that she disabled it. I found the same when I got my 6 Plus a year later. It wasn’t until I got the 6 s Plus that I started using Touch ID as it was really fast (could unlock phone while taking it out your pocket etc), and once I showed her how great Touch ID was on the new iPhones, she sold her 5s and bought a 6s for herself. We’ve both been using same phones for nearly 3 years now with no problems (except I replaced the battery)
Let’s break this down, Those ‘known issues’ should not necessarily be grouped together. Which based off ‘Internet reports’ to what scale, no one knows.
The first being The dust in the camera lens cover will always be something of a concern because of the factory conditions that the phones are assembled in, which Apple can physically actually disassemble the phone to clean the camera lens cover area in store. I guarantee some of the 2018 iPhones will experience the same problems with dust under the camera lens cover strictly because of the environment the Phone is manufactured under. It’s not an easy situation to control, and the other iPhones also had those same issues as well, but no one knows exactly how many phones were affected.
Now, an area they _can_ improve are the more technical issues was the green line on the OLED panel that was openly reported.
And/ Or Apple can use different seals/improved water seals to help the water resistance with the 2018 iPhones.
You mean besides all the things here: https://www.apple.com/ios/ios-12-preview/features/ ?
The improvements to performance are noticeable and really make the phone feel much smoother and more responsive than it was before.
I think the X is the first newer style refresh that isnt like a first gen product. The 6+ was super slow and lots of issues. There isnt anything wrong with the X. Its lightning fast, gestures are perfect and fluid and it does everything anyone could want in a phone and quickly. I think from now on there wont be any real "FIRST GEN" products in terms of usability. I just see technology at to the point that anything moving forward will be better not really feel Like a product with issues.
I guess yea. There are still other new products that are super glitchy and just bad.
iPhone 6 Plus did suffer from a lack of RAM from day one though. When I upgraded to the 6S Plus the increase in RAM made a big improvement. I couldn't even switch between Facebook app and Safari and back again without Facebook having to be reloaded on the 6+. It was the 6+ that really struggled, the smaller 6 I don't believe was as bad.