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KnightWRX

macrumors Pentium
Jan 28, 2009
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Quebec, Canada
This can be said about any forum that is based on a product or brand. I have met plenty of Android and Windows fans who are just as rabid as Apple fans.

I'm on a Harley-Davidson forum. Let me tell you, those guys will periodically destroy company decisions (water cooling, the v-rod, any new model, any old models exiting production, clothing, accessories) and no one really argues about it.

Yet none of them will ever buy another brand. Loyal, yet open to criticizing decisions made by the MoCo and not just accepting Willie G's crap as the truth.
 

ChazUK

macrumors 603
Feb 3, 2008
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I occasionally get mocked for using a mac. I have no idea why but some people seem to have something against the platform.

I always buy what suits my needs and that makes me extremely satisfied with my gadgets and computers.

One of the most satisfying things about those that mock my Mac usage is it's normally those people that need me to look at their computers or give advice when they go wrong! :D
 

Mike225

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Jul 15, 2010
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I occasionally get mocked for using a mac. I have no idea why but some people seem to have something against the platform.

I always buy what suits my needs and that makes me extremely satisfied with my gadgets and computers.

One of the most satisfying things about those that mock my Mac usage is it's normally those people that n eed me to look at their computers when thiey go wrong! :D

Its funny because Im a Windows user for the most part yet I always diagnose my friends Macs. Things such as cant find a setting, want to know how to change the battery on their macbook pro, cant get an external HD to be written to, install an adblocker, install Windows etc.
 

blunderboy

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Feb 13, 2010
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I agree with that.

Of the fanboy/girl groups out there
Apple, Android, Windows linux ect.
I find the Apple fanboys to be the most clueless when it comes to computers in general. They tend to just spit out what ever apple says and can not think for them selves.

There is a reason why they are known to attend the Church of Apple and consider Steve Jobs their god. No other group has manage to pull that off. Apple fans have earned their reputation as brainless Zombies.

Nah, the Windows and Linux ones can be just as bad. I've come across some pretty awful Windows zealots in comment threads, and the internet is crawling with Linux nuts. I view the Windows ones as the most annoying because, well, they're being overprotective and defensive of a monopolistic operating system that comes on most computers anyway. You don't get brownie points for using Windows.
 

Rodimus Prime

macrumors G4
Oct 9, 2006
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Nah, the Windows and Linux ones can be just as bad. I've come across some pretty awful Windows zealots in comment threads, and the internet is crawling with Linux nuts. I view the Windows ones as the most annoying because, well, they're being overprotective and defensive of a monopolistic operating system that comes on most computers anyway. You don't get brownie points for using Windows.

Oh while they both can be bad. I can at least ask a Winows Zealot and linux nut a question most of the time and get a useful answer regaurding either Hardware or the respect OS.

I find if I ask an Apple fanboy a question like that most of the time I do not get any useful answer short of call apple care or you should of gotten apple care and so on. They will not help you hack the OS so to speak (windows and linux guys they are pretty helpful at that)
 

Mike225

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Jul 15, 2010
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Oh while they both can be bad. I can at least ask a Winows Zealot and linux nut a question most of the time and get a useful answer regaurding either Hardware or the respect OS.

I find if I ask an Apple fanboy a question like that most of the time I do not get any useful answer short of call apple care or you should of gotten apple care and so on. They will not help you hack the OS so to speak (windows and linux guys they are pretty helpful at that)

Its pretty funny; whenever I read a thread about OS X or computer problems on this site the final solution is usually take it to the genius bar, call Apple Care, or reformat after making the person give a ton of information which didnt help.
 

blunderboy

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Feb 13, 2010
253
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Its pretty funny; whenever I read a thread about OS X or computer problems on this site the final solution is usually take it to the genius bar, call Apple Care, or reformat after making the person give a ton of information which didnt help.

Yeah, that can be kind of annoying. I think that people do suggest calling Apple because Apple's technical support is actually good; you can get help from someone with training in Macs without paying extra (if you're under warranty), or calling underpaid, difficult-to-understand phone operators in India, as you would with other computer companies.
 

rhett7660

macrumors G5
Jan 9, 2008
14,379
4,503
Sunny, Southern California
Its pretty funny; whenever I read a thread about OS X or computer problems on this site the final solution is usually take it to the genius bar, call Apple Care, or reformat after making the person give a ton of information which didnt help.

Especially if you are talking about his forum. This is more of a general rumor with a sprinkle of help in it. Go to a forum that is more based on technical help and they can usually help you out better then this forum. There are a few here who are pretty darn good.

And please how many times do you read about reformatting/reinstalling the OS on a windows box after you do xyz? Linux on the other hand not so much lol..

In my experience - that's just not true. There is a special level of obsession and bias reserved for the mac fanatic.

Of course this is just your experience. Between you and jaded there is nothing that compares to a Mac user and their fanboyism. Wouldn't expect you to say anything different, especially when it comes to Mac users! :D
 

JediZenMaster

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Mar 28, 2010
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I'm pretty brand loyal but also a brand is just a brand. Yeah i'm a fanboy for Apple and Sony and Leica :p But i don't really wear it as a badge as some people do.

Typically if someone has an issue with my personal preference of brand i just ignore them if they get nasty because that reinforces that they have deeper issues. But i haven't ran across many people offline that act like that.

It's typically the Keyboard warriors who have that temperament :cool::apple:
 

damitssam

macrumors 6502
Sep 22, 2009
275
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Lol, I was in the line for an iphone 4 on launch day, with my HP nice mini laptop getting so much **** from all the apple fanboys. I told them that my nice sexy laptop was $499 (slickdeals ;)), how much was theirs? I never gave them **** about their macbooks until the horde starting giving me ****.

Mac OS is too confusing to use and really, in the business world, PC is King.

- Sent from my Windows 7 PC Computer
 

ValSalva

macrumors 68040
Jun 26, 2009
3,783
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Burpelson AFB
Mac OS is too confusing to use and really, in the business world, PC is King.

- Sent from my Windows 7 PC Computer

Well, I am personally insulted :D

The same personal insult interpretation also applies to different Apple products. I don't think the iPad is a very good product for a variety of legitimate reasons. I just get ganged up on when I comment about any iPad rumor/story.

It really is about justifying one's purchasing decision.
 

Jessica Lares

macrumors G3
Oct 31, 2009
9,612
1,057
Near Dallas, Texas, USA
The problem is that Macs are so "perfect" that people don't bother learning how to fix a problem. The fact that they can just run to Apple with a problem hurts them. Macs are also built so weirdly that it's even hard for the average person to open them without multiple sized screwdrivers and a steady hand. You have to remove 10 parts just to switch the hard drive out, it's a pain.

Plus, a lot of these Mac users have only JUST started using a Mac after OS X. Most PC users started with 95 or XP, and those systems haven't changed as drastically as OS 9 and above.
 

blunderboy

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Feb 13, 2010
253
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Yeah, it fosters a dependency model on the vendor, which isn't always viable for people living in areas without a sizeable Apple presence. I'll call Apple for big stuff, but if it's something to do with a 3rd-party application that Apple can't fix, I'll just google for fix-its myself. It's good to know that I can call Apple and take my Mac to the Genius Bar if there's a problem, but I also want to know how to deal with common Mac issues myself.
 

The Man

macrumors 6502a
Jul 7, 2004
613
225
People always say that Apple fans are bad. But I sometimes think it's the Other people who just can't let go.

In the past, when Macs weren't that popular, when I said I used a Mac, I always got sniffed at. Why would I use a Mac? What would it be good for? It's way too expensive for me. That sort of thing. You have to defend your purchase, while a PC buyer could just go with arguments like: I got it cheap, and because I can built it cheap, because everyone uses DOS or Windows, because I want to use programs, because Windows is easy enough, because there's no real point in owning a Mac.

And actually, now that the Mac and Apple is sort of more popular, you still see this attitude and it's even stronger on the Web than before on any "PC site" or even gadget site. There's no way one could defend your choice of a Mac or Apple product without being stamped as a fanboi, or worshipper of cult of Jobs. Some people just can't let go that people make other choices or have other priorities.

Okay, so these Mac user shouldn't go to these PC sites or gadget sites and post. But it's also "PC magazines" that review Macs. It's also gadget sites that review Apple products. I just find that with each review or article related to Apple, the bashers come in, and make every argument for a Mac a moot point by stating: They're overpriced as I can built it for less, or can get a Dell for less, or until it does this or that I won't buy an Apple (these people wouldn't buy Apple if it had this and that), and Macs aren't better at doing anything, until Apple releases the Mac OS for PCs, people buy Apple because of Apple makes great advertising and because people are ill-informed, people buy Apple because it simply looks good on them. Also, there is an ardent crowd that simply can't get passed the point that Apple is different, has different values, and makes different decisions. That's a choice some just make.

Some people like to argue that Apple fans are worshippers and don't criticize. This simply isn't true, but it's a point they like to make. With every release Apple makes, there's discussion among Apple fans about the loss of this or that in this and that product. It's just that at the end, we accept things as they are and move on. There are pros and cons and we live with it. But if we do take the cons, we are always the target of outsiders who simply can't seem to live with a crowd willing to take it, like the Flash thing. So people start to hate Apple, and its users, because of Apple's Flash stance.

Now you can say, Apple fans should just stop arguing and start doing their business. And I think most Apple fans actually do just that. I don't want to go into the constant dialog of my choices for liking Apple, or maybe not liking Windows. There is never going to be a reasonable discussion in which I can defend me purchasing a Mac or Apple product, because there will always be so many arguments against that I cannot steer positively, and my decisions will simply be disputed at every turn. So I don't make the argument. And I think most Apple fans have let go, or just don't care. I buy an Apple because it fits me, and I'm not going to argue about it, and I'm not going to defend it. And because of this, and which is the problem I believe, the web is filled with the more extreme Apple fans, the real fanatics. And so Apple fans are stamped as being fanatics who succumb to the reality field distortion of Jobs. I sometimes read the comments against Apple products on sites like Engadget, and I think I should post a comment, but then I think, there's no point.
 

KnightWRX

macrumors Pentium
Jan 28, 2009
15,046
4
Quebec, Canada
You have to defend your purchase,

No you don't. You really don't have to defend your purchase. That is unless you really care what others think. In fact, if you do defend your purchase it means you're insecure. Either about yourself or even your purchase and you're just trying to justify it.

Grow some backbone. It's your money, you wanted a Mac or an iPhone or an iPod, you got it. Anyone who questions you about it should just receive an : "Why do you care so much what I bought ?"
 

The Man

macrumors 6502a
Jul 7, 2004
613
225
No you don't. You really don't have to defend your purchase. That is unless you really care what others think. In fact, if you do defend your purchase it means you're insecure. Either about yourself or even your purchase and you're just trying to justify it.

Grow some backbone. It's your money, you wanted a Mac or an iPhone or an iPod, you got it. Anyone who questions you about it should just receive an : "Why do you care so much what I bought ?"

Grow some backbone? Uh, I stated when Macs were not prevalent and obviously I was younger. Not unnatural to get to talk with fellow students. Also, I use the word defend, because many of the PC crowd at the time were unwilling to give the idea a go, so you could say from their point of view, every argument you made was a defense of a purchase that was insane in their eyes. I never needed to really justify my purchase to anyone, not then and not now. It was just small talk, but with the then PC crowd rolling their eyes (and me ignoring it). The whole point I was making in my post is that most discussions are moot, because of stated reasons. The whole point I was making that some people can't let go of certain reasoning. And that most Apple fans probably don't care, and what is left on the web are just the real fanatics. Didn't you read my post?
 

blunderboy

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Feb 13, 2010
253
1
I just find that with each review or article related to Apple, the bashers come in, and make every argument for a Mac a moot point by stating: They're overpriced as I can built it for less, or can get a Dell for less, or until it does this or that I won't buy an Apple (these people wouldn't buy Apple if it had this and that), and Macs aren't better at doing anything, until Apple releases the Mac OS for PCs, people buy Apple because of Apple makes great advertising and because people are ill-informed, people buy Apple because it simply looks good on them.

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I don't want to go into the constant dialog of my choices for liking Apple, or maybe not liking Windows. There is never going to be a reasonable discussion in which I can defend me purchasing a Mac or Apple product, because there will always be so many arguments against that I cannot steer positively, and my decisions will simply be disputed at every turn.

Yes. Exactly. I bought a Mac. I'm happy with my Mac. I don't need to hear (especially on an Apple forum) that I should have bought a Windows PC, or that Windows is a great operating system, or I could've built my own homebrew computer for less than what I paid for my Mac, or that I don't know about computers because I'm a Mac user. Seriously. They take it as a sort of *threat* that I dislike Windows and don't want to use it, or non-Apple computers in general. For a company they hate so much, why are they spending so much time piping up in forums about how much they hate Apple and Macs? I don't have any accounts on any Windows-related forums, because it's unnecessary. Windows is generally off my radar until someone jumps up and down about it in a thread on this forum or on any Apple-related post on tech blogs I read.
 
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