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Why do people value cars when they are all the same? The answer is that you paid for that product for a reason. Also, Im not at home all day like some users on this forum so the battery is important. Like range is for a car.

IMO this is a bad question that wasn't thought out tbh.

I appreciate your opinion. However, I still think it is an interesting question as we have now quick charging speeds, more access to power outlets, and can buy slim battery cases/packs. In the future, we may even be able to recharge our phones via WIFI. So ultimately it is becoming easier and easier to recharge your phone.

Despite that, some people have limited access to that stuff (for example due to their job or lifestyle), or in general, don't want to bother with the still to some degree existing inconvenience of recharging the phone.
 
I am kinda confused why battery life is still such a big deal for people, considering the wide availability of power outlets and charging speeds getting faster. I assume most many people nowadays work in an office environment or from home. In this case, it shouldn't be an issue to recharge the phone. Moreover, you probably only spend a limited time on your phone at work/university, etc. anyways, so to drain the battery a lot is rather unlikely. I would like to emphasize here that this already accounts for most of the hours of the week.

The only situations, I can think of, where more battery life is useful is during gaming, video streaming, on weekends, or when someone travels outside a city environment. In this case, I get it, I also run sometimes into the issue of not having enough battery life, but even then, I mostly end up in a place like a coffee shop with power outlets. The only inconvenience here is having to bring a charger or battery pack.

This also brings up the question: What is a better idea a lighter phone with less battery life + a battery pack for travel days or a heavier phone with great battery life. The downside of a heavier phone is that you have to carry that weight every day no matter how light your phone usage is. I personally prefer the former (I use an 12 mini).

What do you guys think?
Not one day is ever truly predictable, here in South Africa we sometimes have power cuts and it’s great to have a smartphone that can last long between charges as sometimes the power cuts last longer than expected.
I personally also hating having my phone plugged in, the only time I have my phone plugged is when I am sleeping, after that it needs to be in my pocket or in mind hand, with me not worrying about plugging it in, I don’t care about how fast it can charge, it should spend minimal time plugged in.

I will always take a bigger phone with better battery life than anything else.
For me what matters is:
- Big screen
- Excellent Battery life (only needs to be plugged in once and that’s when I go to sleep)
- Fast Performance

I don’t care for a thin or light weight phone really.

Yes I am working from home, but regardless I still want a phone that does not need to be plugged in mid day, my 11 Pro Max has been great with this, I never want to ever have a phone that requires plugging in multiple times a day, I remember my Samsung Galaxy Note8 after 2 years required a top up.

My first taste of “all day battery life” with heavy usage in a phone was with my Sony Ericsson K850i Cyber-shot in high school (2008), that phone coupled with Opera Mini and a local messaging app called MXit could handle me being on it almost all day and I would still get to bed with around 30% battery left, my 11 Pro Max gives me about the same while doing a whole lot more.
 
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Because no matter how fast a phone is, how good its screen is, how good the camera is or how many amazing features it has, none of that matters when the battery is dead.
This sums it up perfectly. Nuff said. Screen, camera, CPU, everything is more than great enough for 99% of all consumers, if not overkill. Without battery, everything becomes useless. iPhone 6/6S had awful battery life for the sake of bendgate thinness. XR and 11 were a bit too heavy for my liking. But the 12 & 13 models have the perfect sweet spot.
 
I appreciate your opinion. However, I still think it is an interesting question as we have now quick charging speeds, more access to power outlets, and can buy slim battery cases/packs. In the future, we may even be able to recharge our phones via WIFI. So ultimately it is becoming easier and easier to recharge your phone.

Despite that, some people have limited access to that stuff (for example due to their job or lifestyle), or in general, don't want to bother with the still to some degree existing inconvenience of recharging the phone.
It is a matter of convenience, not having to be plugged in while using the phone. It is also simpler not to worry about charging. I prefer to charge while I sleep and have a charged up phone in the morning when I wake up. I am consistently getting 2 days between needing to charge. I seriously think the iPhone 13 Pro Max battery life is so good that it is a game changer. Apple has managed to get more battery life using the smallest battery size in its phone size class. The battery size in the 13 Pro Max is 4352 mAh and gets battery life than phones having a 5000 mAh battery.

Imagine a smart phone that has 1 week or longer battery life. As battery tech improves we will be able to approach having really long battery life. Battery density is improving. There is solid state batteries on the horizon. Solid state batteries are interesting because they are smaller, lighter, charge faster and don't have heat issues like we have now with Lithium-ion batteries. I can imagine a time when cell phone batteries are the size of a quarter and is able to power our smart phones for days even weeks between charges.
 
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The fact that this is even a question and people are taking the time out to answer it, is weird to me. Who wants to be looking for a charger all the time??
 
Why do people care about battery life on my battery powered device?

Why do people care about gas’s mileage when there are so many gas’s stations?

Why am I responding to this thread?

Boredom mostly.
 
There are some seriously catty comments in this thread considering the OP has asked an inquiring question, has clearly shown in replies that they're interested, and willing to, have a proper debate about the topic.

And NO question is a bad question!
 
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I am kinda confused why battery life is still such a big deal for people, considering the wide availability of power outlets...
This is false. Even at locations like airports and hotels, you are not guaranteed an outlet. Most of the time, somebody already plug in their chargers on it. Anywhere else, the assumption is no outlet. Faster charging is not the panacea until it can charge the battery as fast as you fill your car with petrol.

The weight of iPhones are not due to the battery alone, but due to the stainless steel frame Apple use (for the Pros). Android phones have 4000-5000mAh batteries, yet they offset the weight by using plastic/aluminum. Obviously there are other downsides of using plastic, but going for smaller battery due to weight is unwise imo.

Apple already do a great job for standby time. Even my iPhone 7+ can idle for days. But battery life is still important. Apple did the right thing with the 11 and 13 lineup (let's assume 12 is an outlier due to design change).
 
I used to follow battery life very closely. Then years ago it hit me—battery for me was a “yes/no” situation. Is it good enough to go a day or not? For my usage pattern, all my iPhones and my Apple watch easily met my criteria. I just charge once overnight.
 
Battery life has become one of the most important features for me, especially since I started living in China. We do EVERYTHING on our phones here. Need a car? phone. Want food? phone. Want to pay for anything? phone. Public transit? phone. Expats have to enter a lottery to be able to drive a car here (which I don't want to drive here, at all), which means I can't charge my phone while traveling places around town unless I carry a separate charger. I will choose to miss my transport home from work if I realize I've left my phone in my office, that's how much I need my phone anywhere I go where I live. And charging is definitely not everywhere, even in the major cities here. Today, I actually stopped at the apple store to charge for a bit because after a few hours of running errands, my phone was close to dead.
 
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So you can't pull yourself away from staring at your phone for 30 minutes mid day? It sounds like you need to expand your lifestyle to things other than staring at your phone. It's not a battery issue.

I use my phone for things like PHONE CALLS, video chat, e-mail, GPS, 2-factor authentication, crypto trading, on-call system alerts, etc.

I occasionally away from power for 12-18+ hours. Just last week i was away from AC power for several days.

How about you stop making excuses for a limitation of the device rather than making assumptions about other people's uses of it.

Some uses chew a lot of battery very quickly.
 
I use my phone for things like PHONE CALLS, video chat, e-mail, GPS, 2-factor authentication, crypto trading, on-call system alerts, etc.

I occasionally away from power for 12-18+ hours. Just last week i was away from AC power for several days.

How about you stop making excuses for a limitation of the device rather than making assumptions about other people's uses of it.

Some uses chew a lot of battery very quickly.
Stop blaming the device for not being able to last 2 full days. It was never quoted to do so. If you can’t pull yourself away from staring at your screen for the whole day, and you can’t get to power for 18 hours, then buy a battery pack. As I stated, it’s a YOU issue….not a device issue.
 
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and you can’t get to power for 18 hours, then buy a battery pack.

Yeah because that's a solution. Yes, i used a battery pack, they take a long time to charge.

It still isn't a solution. You think battery life won't be a thing when Apple are using the iPhone as the processing unit for their AR glasses solution (for just one example coming, which will likely burn through the battery in 2-3 hours or less)? Wake up.
 
Yeah because that's a solution. Yes, i used a battery pack, they take a long time to charge.

It still isn't a solution. You think battery life won't be a thing when Apple are using the iPhone as the processing unit for their AR glasses solution (for just one example coming, which will likely burn through the battery in 2-3 hours or less)? Wake up.
Wake up to what? I don’t have a battery issue. You do.
 
I am kinda confused why battery life is still such a big deal for people, considering the wide availability of power outlets and charging speeds getting faster. I assume most many people nowadays work in an office environment or from home. In this case, it shouldn't be an issue to recharge the phone. Moreover, you probably only spend a limited time on your phone at work/university, etc. anyways, so to drain the battery a lot is rather unlikely. I would like to emphasize here that this already accounts for most of the hours of the week.

The only situations, I can think of, where more battery life is useful is during gaming, video streaming, on weekends, or when someone travels outside a city environment. In this case, I get it, I also run sometimes into the issue of not having enough battery life, but even then, I mostly end up in a place like a coffee shop with power outlets. The only inconvenience here is having to bring a charger or battery pack.

This also brings up the question: What is a better idea a lighter phone with less battery life + a battery pack for travel days or a heavier phone with great battery life. The downside of a heavier phone is that you have to carry that weight every day no matter how light your phone usage is. I personally prefer the former (I use an 12 mini).

What do you guys think?

I think it’s all interconnected.

I agree with you that all other things equal, a bigger battery does result in a thicker, heavier iphone, and I have in the past made that very same argument against thicker, heavier iPhones.

However, this was back when the camera bump was still more of a pimple (and could still be easily evened out with a case). The iPhone 12 and 13 sport much bigger cameras that protrude significantly from the back, and they also sport 5g (which can be quite the power drain), and support promotion.

So in this regard, there is no point in making the phone too thin when its “real” thickness is the camera bump. But your case can only get so thick as well, so as well increase the thickness of the iphone while you are at it. But Apple is also an expert in miniaturisation, so what do you do with all that extra space?

Squeeze in extra battery, so people who are using the iphone 13 as advertised (5g, lots of photos and videos) have no issues lasting a day.
 
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