Amen, i just want to do a lot of things in the same time.
I'm pushing my current MB almost always to it's limits. I just need more power.
Waiting and waiting..
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Why do you need 8 Cores?
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Amen, i just want to do a lot of things in the same time.
I'm pushing my current MB almost always to it's limits. I just need more power.
Waiting and waiting..
Convolution reverbs like Space Designer or Altiverb use up massive amounts of CPU cycles. The more cores, the better.
Audio (like me) and video folks need all the power they can get.
Audio (like me) and video folks need all the power they can get.
How about people who bothered to download the PUBLIC BETA?
I'd answer the question but my MacBook only has two cores so I can't test. If anyone with a Mac Pro would like to download the Photoshop CS3 public beta and run some filter and watch processor usage, let us know how it works!
I don't think there are any apps that NEED 8 core...however I'd be happy with 8 Core to rip DVD from handbrake(if handbrake support 8 cores, if it doesn't it will someday)
That said handbrake works fine on my Core Duo Mac Mini so I'm not a in a *huge* rush for Apple to relase an 8 core Mac
That said handbrake works fine on my Core Duo Mac Mini so I'm not a in a *huge* rush for Apple to relase an 8 core Mac
The catch here is that the rest of the system isn't scaled up the same way. Video encoding for example at some point will not go any faster no matter how many CPUs you throw at it because you have saturated your disk I/O.
Testing For 8 Core Performance Is Currently Impossible Including 8 Core FrankenMacs
BETA. Last time I looked there were still only 4 cores in the Mac Pro. So how's anyone gonna test the RELEASED version with 8 before April 25th and on a released 8 core Mac Pro until it's released and with Leopard on an 8 core Mac Pro until Leopard ships? You think Adobe didn't write all of CS3 Master Collection for 8 cores with Leopard management? Give me a break.
and of course it's unfathomable that someone has been using the CS3 beta and has FIRST HAND experience of whether PS CS3 uses say, four cores for a speed bump, which would tend to implicate that 8 cores will lead to a further bump.
I disagree. This is on a quad, if it were a 8 core the number would be something like 785%. It will shallow every cpu you throw at it.
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I Invented 8 Core Enthusiasm
Don't misunderstand me. I invented 8 Core enthusiasm. I think anyone who doesn't buy an 8 Core Mac Pro is core challenged. Just trying to be conservative on the assumptions that's all.
The assumption it will upscale to all 8 is not one I am willing to make. I don't believe that BETA software is the same thing as RELEASE software including features not included in the BETA versions. I hope you're right.
Don't misunderstand me. I invented 8 Core enthusiasm. I think anyone who doesn't buy an 8 Core Mac Pro is core challenged. Just trying to be conservative on the assumptions that's all.
while it MAY NOT upscale as efficiently to 8 cores, dont forget that PS was one of the first main-stream apps to make use of Dual-CPU in Win98 (the OS didnt even know the 2nd cpu existed). Adobe aren't gonna shoot themselves in the foot with 4core maximum, after waiting so long for intel native binaries.
as for the beta/release. I cant imagine something as deep in the codebase as multi-threading for 8+ cores is a small thing to add..
but hey, heres hoping.. i just want VMware/Parallels to allow me to dedicate 2 cores to VM1 and 2 cores to VM2 (or maybe 2 cores to vm1 and 3 vms with 1 core each) so i can get my head back into Novell and OES in my spare time, without bullsh*tting around with buying a HP workstation.
You know in 2010 when the 80 core chips are out we will laugh at these kind of posts. Multicore is the future. Software is headed that way period. HD is the video of the future and HD+ is the next big thing after that. YOu think dual core or even quad core can handle that? Can't handle it now. Takes a long time to rip movies and edit them on top of the line quad xeons.
No bring on the cores. You can never have enough.
Remember when 16mb or ram and a 170mb hard drive was the BOMB?
No bring on the cores. You can never have enough.
Remember when 16mb or ram and a 170mb hard drive was the BOMB?
I can really only see it in high end video editing and 3D rendering. I am fairly sure that the music and 2D as well as most of the video industries can get by with 4 cores. High end scientific calculation, terrain mapping and render farms are the only places I can see needing an 8 core system. and these guys usually have a fleet of nodes or a Super computer.
A Lot Of Regular People Need 8, 16, 32 cores Now!
Who makes those?
Zactly.
Multimedia, just a quick question. What specs do you hope to pack your 8 core Mac Pro with, and what displays will you be hooking up with it?
My 8 Core Setup
So that's at least an additional $5404 above the base. Adds up fast.
I'll easily have over $9,000 in my setup to begin with. Sales tax alone will be another $720.
Total about $10,000 by the time I remember something I forgot here.
I really like my 4 screen Quad G5 setup. So I'll probably figure out a way to get two cameras into one PCIe card so I can get another display card inside. This assumes there will still only be 4 PCIe card slots. I wish there were more. Or perhaps Apple will add one pair of HDMI i/o ports from that kind of motherboard.
- two 2GB sticks (Omni) RAM total 6GB for openers $480
- four 500GB Seagate SATAII/300 16MB buffers $480 (already bought)
- Blu-ray® HD DVR±RW $499 (from Apple)
- Pioneer 112 DVD±RW $99 (from Apple)
- three Blackmagic Design HDMI i/o PCIe cards $747
- whatever ATI card Apple offers unless the stock nVidea card supports rotation
- 30" HP LP3065 High Color Gamut Monitor with 3 DL DVI Inputs (shared with my Quad G5) $1600
- Dell 3007WFP 30" Monitor (already own)
- Adobe CS3 Master Collection (academic) $999
- Apple Final Cut Studio 6 (upgrade) $500 (guess)
So that's at least an additional $5404 above the base. Adds up fast.
I'll easily have over $9,000 in my setup to begin with. Sales tax alone will be another $720.
Total about $10,000 by the time I remember something I forgot here.
I really like my 4 screen Quad G5 setup. So I'll probably figure out a way to get two cameras into one PCIe card so I can get another display card inside. This assumes there will still only be 4 PCIe card slots. I wish there were more. Or perhaps Apple will add one pair of HDMI i/o ports from that kind of motherboard.
Sounds like a killer setup able to take on the toughest of tasks. Have you got any pictures on hand of your current 4 display setup?
I would have loved to have used 8 cores for my CFD(computational fluid dynamics), it took a week to run one problem on a P4 with 2Gb Ram.
However the 8 core would need lots of ram, as that is the other limiting factor in cfd(depends on what type of solver you use explicit or implicit).
Thats why I would have one.
However the 8 core would need lots of ram, as that is the other limiting factor in cfd(depends on what type of solver you use explicit or implicit).
Thats why I would have one.
Other than the fact that in 2010 we will not quite have x86-capable 80-core processors.
Intel made a test sample featuring 80-cores but those were not x86-capable so basically it is useless in the environment many of us would like to use it in.
In the same die area as the 80-core processor sample used, Intel could probably fill in sixteen x86-capable cores.
If you don't need it then don't buy it.
People in the music business needs it for their audio plugins that relies on processors. The faster the processor the more plugins you can add. These plugins can be keyboards, sampler, drums, horns, synths and many many more. nowadays people uses a minimum of 24 tracks and each track can have 4 to 5 plugins. This is the story of my life.
I'm also into 3D using Strata as I'm typing my computer is rendering a still 104 X 70 3D image that has a total of 1,097 hours rendering time and it just past the half way point.
There are a lot of other aplications that depends on multiple processors and clock speed.
So you see my friend a lot of us needs it. Now I'm curious to hear what you do with you computer, is it mainly surfing the web?