And they'd still get sued. I'm serious. People would sue them or the EU would say they're being anti consumer or something and it's just easier to not allow it.
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Why does Apple think it knows better than me?
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And they'd still get sued. I'm serious. People would sue them or the EU would say they're being anti consumer or something and it's just easier to not allow it.
I'm sorry but that's nonsense.
Amazon and Netfllix already give users the choice to download video over a cellular network on the iPhone and iPad. If Apple were worried about morons suing they would disable that functionality: Apple has full control over apops downloaded from the App Store.
Apple doesn't allow it for Movies because it continues to have an "Apple knows best" attitude and a contempt for simple user requests and requirements.
It prefers to focus on "features" nobody asked for and nobody wants.
It sounds more and more like iOS might not be the way to go for you.
I remember people saying the same thing when people where bitching (including myself) about not having unique signatures for emails back in the days of iphone 4. Then all of a sudden, Apple implemented it, and I never heard the naysayers go back and admit that perhaps users complaints bettered the iOS experience.
If it weren't for complaints against the current functionality, Apple/other tech companies, would only introduce new features, without tweaking/perfecting current features.
It is not that iOS might not be for profmatt, it is more that Apple needs to address issues that profmatt and many other users have. I mean, I have a 30GB plan, with one month roll over (AT&T), typically I use less than half of that (so monthly I have 45+GB). Users are getting larger data plans now then right after the demise of unlimited plans.
Seems like there's more to it than a complaint about a feature or two. Context plays a role.
That's a very macrumors response.
I've been brand-loyal to Apple since 1988 and I'm not about to switch now. Wanting something good to be even better is, as I've said, exactly the mindset of Steve Jobs and make no apology for sharing that view.
Just because I'm critical of Apple doesn't mean that its products are not right for me, or that other companys' products are better.
Thanks to Steve Jobs, the cult like following he created was quick to believe his every word. He taught them to believe that he knew best. Period.
When as part of critiquing you also mention "It prefers to focus on "features" nobody asked for and nobody wants." all in a thread titled "Why does Appoe think it knows better than me?" it certainly makes it seem like the issues are much more fundamental, deeper, and widespread as they seem to relate to the underlying inherent design and approach that is rooted in iOS (that is unless all of that is basically more or less hyperbole and nothing more). Looking at some other posts it seems like this isn't a unique or an odd assessment of it all either.
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Anyone who doesn't have issues with Apple is lying... We all have issues, we either can live with them, or can't. I like profmatt CAN and DO live with them, but it doesn't mean we aren't going to expect more... Forums are a place for people to vent and share information and ideas... Simply saying you have issues, or Apple isn't for you isn't in the best interest of anyone. We need people to speak up, or we will live in a world of status quo.
I have issues with apple maps (lack of truck routes), I submitted an enhancement request, and hope others will also speak up, this way apple will see that it is a feature worth investing time and resources to provide to end users. If they do not see a desire, why would they waste resources? The problem with this is the main users of truck routes are truckers who typically do not have the time to spend on forums (where apple will peak), so apple may not even be aware of a demand.
Except if you think a company has contempt for you as a customer, you should probably find a company that doesn't have contempt for you. It just isn't a healthy mentally.
I think he/she is just venting. Which is a healthy way to expel stress... Some people express themselves differently. If he had that much hate for Apple, I'm sure he would have moved on by now...
I once had a friend whose phone had just been replaced a week ago at the Genius Bar. She told me her replacement phone had used a ton of data within a week (about 5GB), and she thought there was something wrong with the phone. I took a look at her phone's Cellular Data breakdown, and it showed 2GB of Snapchat, 2GB of Spotify, and some other stuff. That right there is why Apple limits first-party services over data. It's better to assume your users don't use common sense than hope that they actually watch their data meter. Look what the whole Wi-Fi Assist thing did. And that actually would tell you it was on LTE.
Which is why many are suggesting having some type of switch, or notification that warns the user. This would give the option to those who want to download larger files, while still preventing the casual user from accidentally downloading large files.
When did this tell you that you were using LTE instead of Wi-Fi? When it got me, the only reason I noticed it was I couldn't connect to my routers menu (I just happened to be trying to go into it).
Just like it always did when you weren't connected to WiFi--the WiFi indicator on top would no longer be there and you would just see the regular cellular network indicator (be it LTE or 4G or 3G or what have you).
Mine did not do this, it still showed Wi-Fi connected with a strong signal. The only reason I knew was the router itself wasn't connected to the internet, and I still had data on my phone...
Then it doesn't seem like it was Wi-Fi Assist that was in action as that's not how that feature works.
In the initial version of 9, there was no indication that you were using cellular data instead of Wi-Fi. They may have changed it now (I have had it off since then), but with the first version of 9, it didn't let you know.
It was designed to work that way from the beginning. Perhaps there was something in a beta version that was being tweaked at one point, but part of the functionality is that the WiFi indicator wouldn't be there as it was in fact not in use when he feature was active.
I don't know why Apple doesn't allow Movie downloads over 4G but it's nothing to do with fear of being sued. If that were the case it wouldn't allow Amazon and Netflix to let users choose a 4G download option. Besides, companies let their customers drive themselves into debt all the time.
Equally, only the most mindless fanboy would claim that iTunes is anything other than bloody awful. It's like the people at Apple have never seen Plex.
Apple's own Podcast player was so awful I switched to Overcast.
It is, frankly, childish to suggest that if someone is critical of Apple they should walk away from the entire platform.
I'm critical of Apple because I've invested tens of thousands of pounds in its products over nearly three decades. I think I'm entitled to a view. The fact that I've stuck with them speaks to my overall opinion of the company, and its competition.
My primary beef with Apple is its software. It's the weak link.
Apple can and should do better. That doesn't mean I should throw my iPhone in the bin.
Equally, only the most mindless fanboy would claim that iTunes is anything other than bloody awful. It's like the people at Apple have never seen Plex.
Apple's own Podcast player was so awful I switched to Overcast.
It is, frankly, childish to suggest that if someone is critical of Apple they should walk away from the entire platform.
I'm critical of Apple because I've invested tens of thousands of pounds in its products over nearly three decades. I think I'm entitled to a view. The fact that I've stuck with them speaks to my overall opinion of the company, and its competition.
My primary beef with Apple is its software. It's the weak link.
Apple can and should do better. That doesn't mean I should throw my iPhone in the bin.
A bit cynical, are we? It's not just about lawsuits. It's a combination of trying to reduce the potential of a customer killing their data plan directly through an Apple service and Apple's customary decision to create a distinct experience rather than just adding a myriad of choices and variances. Besides, maybe it's also a small measure to prevent carriers from collecting on large overage fees.
Now that data plans are commonly 5GB ,10GB, 20GB here in Europe (And some even offering all you can eat data) I suspect the policy will change in iOS 10. Prior to that (<1GB plans), Apple probably did know better than the OP it's as simple as that.
I just tested it now. It does drop the wifi indicator and replace it with the cellular data indicator. This is not how it acted in the initial version of 9. I also searched (a little hard to find now as it is several iOS' later), many people reported the same behavior when 9 first came out. People where complaining how they had no way of knowing they were using cellular data.
I know in my case I saw it with full strong wifi signal, no indication of assist being used. The only reason I knew was because I couldn't connect to the routers web based interface. I had to use a desktop (didn't have a laptop) for me to discover the router wasn't connected to the web.
Many people didn't even understand what was happening and blamed their data overages or large data uses on it once they heard about it. I can't say there I recall there being much of anything beyond some anecdotal stories that it wasn't working correctly. If there really was an issue like that it would have likely taken over the discussion rather than most of it simply focusing on people focusing on it being enabled by default in iOS.
The only reason it wasn't a big issue was because it only jumps to cellular data when wifi is weak or network speeds are slow. This means most people when home, would only notice this when out of range. This typically only happens when people are leaving home, or if their home network loses connectivity with the internet. Since this isn't an every day thing, I would say majority didn't even notice.
Since 9.0 was only out for 7 or so days before 9.0.1, we may never know how big of an issue it could have been for users, I would assume that 9.0.1 changed the indicator issue.