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Why Have No PC Makers Copied The iMac?

szsiddiq said:
are the GPU and RAM really laptop parts? i kno the GPU isnt the highest performance GPU, but i didnt think it was a laptop GPU.


i only bring up the Mini because you did, in order to demonstrate the footprint comparison with the iMac. Yea, they did cram a lot into it, but I think for Apple's target consumer, it works out just fine. not saying it can't be improved, though (ie. that optical drive issue does suck). however, in terms of performance, the GPU, CPU, RAM, etc., do what the machines are made to do. in my view, the only issue is that the boxes don't allow for much expansion or "upgradibility". again, they weren't designed to.
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Yup, really are laptop parts. The iMac does what it's meant to do, just that it could do better for less money if it wasn't designed simply to look cool.

I only mentioned the mini is terms of a machine that could be put into small spaces without building it into the display.
 
mrgreen4242 said:
Yup, really are laptop parts. The iMac does what it's meant to do, just that it could do better for less money if it wasn't designed simply to look cool.

I only mentioned the mini is terms of a machine that could be put into small spaces without building it into the display.
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i agree, it could do more for less, and since the intel transition, i think they've been moving towards that.

Again, it could be put into small spaces, but would still use laptop parts, and other entry level components.
 
yuck...i wouldn't buy that profile 6 even if the owner of gateway paid for it himself...i'm not a mac guy but that thing is fugly
 
mrgreen4242 said:
Yup, really are laptop parts. The iMac does what it's meant to do, just that it could do better for less money if it wasn't designed simply to look cool.

I only mentioned the mini is terms of a machine that could be put into small spaces without building it into the display.
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Yep. Until you get into the 24" model the only desktop part is the hard drive. The 24" uses desktop 7300GT and 7600GT CPUs, but ironically they are on mobile MXM cards.
 
I once saw an old emachines clone of the imac G3, and at best buy, we sell a sony that is an all in one like the imac, but is a couple inches thicker.
I think it is something like this...

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TheManOfSilver said:
Ick ... it looks like a clock radio giving birth to a fat LCD ... horrible!
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Nah, it's just the Gateway designers who got sacked after designing the Profile 6 trying to attach more LCDs to random consumer electronics. Give those guys a supply of LCDs and a hot glue gun and they can whip up almost anything.
 

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It has been tried

a while back, emachines tried to copy the emac/ old imac design and sewed before they reached more than about a week on the market
 
This thing from Averatec is very much like the iMac G4, the screen tilts the EXACT same way!
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I saw one at Best Buy.
 
ok they are getting better in copy macs or getting close to copy`s

dell xps one 24

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here a review of the dell ..quiet impressive with blue ray as option

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Dell-XPS-One-24,news-2868.html







they cant make exact copy`s as it would be against the laws but they try to get as close as the patent laws allows it
and my guess is we will see more of them soon as due to similar specs it should be possible to run snow leopard on them
 
iMacs are (and were) still the best bang for the buck.

iMacs now ALL use IPS+LED LCD panels.

Just the panel is worth 600$ (iMac 21.5") or 1200$ (iMac 27").

Whereas all the "imac WANNABE" still use CHEAP TN+CCFL panels!

The iMacs are definetely the best VALUE in the all-in-one market. (so where is the famous Apple Tax? They are best value! Why "cheaper" companies aren't able to create a better value all-in-one? :rolleyes:)

ps: if you're all crazy about BLU-RAY, get an external USB bluray reader or burner
 
i dont need blue ray .. others do want it desperately , but i think it will go away like beta 2000 or such things
i`m one of these don quichotes who are fighting against windmills to get crt`s back ,
cheaper to produce and they still have better picture quality then any lcd ,
so the only replacement for a crt screen can be a plasma screen

LCD technology requires pixels to go from active – to inactive -and back to active again, to achieve a single response cycle; their response time can measure anywhere between 4 milliseconds to and 25 milliseconds. Even the fastest LCD screens can suffer with some degree of movement blurring.

Plasma present moving objects without loss of crispness or detail.Plasma technology needs only one impulse per pixel to produce an image therefore its response time is almost instantaneous.
Intense blacks, realistic colours and tones ,Widest gamut of colours ,Very naturalistic

the emac is already big and only has 17 inch
but
the iMac G3 looks so cute ..called mine" Calimero" because of the half egg shape

and the 15" screen is just right to sit in front of it and i don`t have to move away from the desk to see the whole screen
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as this is a copy thread , why cant apple fit in a plasma screen and the innards of a mac mini into a iMac g3 shell ..come on steve jobs please copy the iMac g3 slot loader
i don`t care about the price
 
Because in basic terms they don't really sell.

the reasons no one does an iMac style 'PC' is that the demand simply isn't there and PC makers couldn't come close to making the profit that Apple do from the AIO design.

Apple sell 10m computers a year worldwide....

The worldwide computer market is worth 250 - 260 million units, so Apple's overall share is less than 4%

of the 10 mill computers Apple sell, 60-65% of them are portables. Which means there is 4 million (approx) desktop machines (split between mini's, Pro's and iMac's) that Apple sell per year. Even if 50% of desktop sales are imacs then that is 2 mill out of 250 mill machines....... 0.8% of the worldwide market.

Apple's carefully constructed brand image means that they enjoy vastly superior profit margins (30%+) which no other hardware vendor could match.

I'm sure they are ALL happy to let Apple have that 0.8% share.
 
Mavimao said:
Does anyone still believe that the lampshade iMac, was the coolest looking iMac to date?

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I miss the crazy designs from before. The clamshell iBook? I'd take that over the white square that is the macbook.

But I do have to say that the cheesegrater G5 style powermac/pro has really grown on me and is a great example of engineering.
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you are not alone :)
 
n459umb4786ers said:
Dell has all in ones.
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Dell??

A LOT of brands HAVE all-in-ones:

- DELL
- HP
- ACER
- GATEWAY
- MSI
- LENOVO
- ecc.

The problem is that they SUCK if compared to iMacs. To start, they have all TN LCD pannels and CCFL backlighting. iMacs are IPS and LED, so you got an otherwise PRICEY MONITOR in the process.....go to www.dell.com and buy an IPS LED 27" Monitor....it'll cost you 1000 bucks...so this is why iMacs are the BEST VALUE among all-in-ones.....
 
just realised that too ..hehe

nevertheless a answer two and a half year later
is better then no answer at all :D
 
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