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entatlrg

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Since the MBA section has turned into an "air bashing" place, I thought this would be the perfect thread to re-introduce....

it's not written by me, it does sum up what the MBA really is; enjoy >>

Why I love my Air (link to original post - https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/706420/)

I recently purchased a Rev B SSD Air to replace my stolen Rev A SSD.

I love it.

I have a Mac Pro as my main computer and I have owned Mac Book and Mac Book Pros in both 15" and 17" but the Air suits me best. I have also tried an Asus Eee 10".

Does my Air have 'lines'. I don't know to be honest. If I look really hard I can see some grain but this is one of the best screens I have had. I sent my MacBook Unibody back after one day because the screen was so bad. The Air looks fine to me.

My Air is so light I can easily carry it around in one hand with a pinch grip. I use it around the house, on the couch, in bed and outside. I move it a lot. Being thin makes it easier to carry than the Eeee PC. It slide into my backpack with my camera and other stuff and I take it with me everywhere. The size of it is perfect. A screen you can actually see and a keyboard you can really use yet still light as most netbooks.

It syncs with my mail etc with Mobile Me and files with my Mac Pro and I can even use Back to My Mac to control the big machine.

Last night I watched the Monaco GP in bed on it, streamed off the net. It coped well.

I have tried all of the above with every other Mac and a couple of NetBooks. None of them are as good as an Air.

Too much Air hating in here. If you think an Air will do what you want then get one.
 

haoqfu

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Since the MBA section has turned into an "air bashing" group led my dreamers, OCD'ers, speculators, whiners, complainers and last but not least, "elitists" without a sense of 'reality' I thought this would be the perfect thread to re-introduce....

it's not written by me, it does sum up what the MBA really is; enjoy >>

Why I love my Air (link to original post - https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/706420/)

I recently purchased a Rev B SSD Air to replace my stolen Rev A SSD.

I love it.

I have a Mac Pro as my main computer and I have owned Mac Book and Mac Book Pros in both 15" and 17" but the Air suits me best. I have also tried an Asus Eee 10".

Does my Air have 'lines'. I don't know to be honest. If I look really hard I can see some grain but this is one of the best screens I have had. I sent my MacBook Unibody back after one day because the screen was so bad. The Air looks fine to me.

My Air is so light I can easily carry it around in one hand with a pinch grip. I use it around the house, on the couch, in bed and outside. I move it a lot. Being thin makes it easier to carry than the Eeee PC. It slide into my backpack with my camera and other stuff and I take it with me everywhere. The size of it is perfect. A screen you can actually see and a keyboard you can really use yet still light as most netbooks.

It syncs with my mail etc with Mobile Me and files with my Mac Pro and I can even use Back to My Mac to control the big machine.

Last night I watched the Monaco GP in bed on it, streamed off the net. It coped well.

I have tried all of the above with every other Mac and a couple of NetBooks. None of them are as good as an Air.

Too much Air hating in here. If you think an Air will do what you want then get one.

no need to open a thread for those bashers. they are bashing simple b/c they can not afford it and unaware of this fact.
 

spillproof

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The Air is a really nice computer, I wanted one, but then I realized it can't be my only computer. I needed more than 1 usb and a CD/DVD drive for college. Maybe when I graduate and start working, it can be my notebook to travel to and from the office.
 

mcpryon2

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As a lifetime Yankees fans I will just say that if you like it, you like it, and people WILL disagree.
 

eVolcre

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no need to open a thread for those bashers. they are bashing simple b/c they can not afford it and unaware of this fact.

Bollocks. I could afford to buy my Air and yours too if I wish, but I choose not to at the moment. Lets not relate bashing and income please.

Take a play out of Scottsdale's book and be mature

eV
 

haoqfu

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Bollocks. I could afford to buy my Air and yours too if I wish, but I choose not to at the moment. Lets not relate bashing and income please.

Take a play out of Scottsdale's book and be mature

eV

i'm just telling the truth, just not everyone is realizing it. if mba was $500, nobody will be bashing it.
 

chrono1081

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I have to agree that a lot of bashing does come because of price.


Also I've noticed pretty much every basher does not own one. It seems like the people who own it really really love it and they've bought it because they want it for internet, email, general use.

Some people have naturally bought it for looks (I've been tempted but I know its not for me I need a mac pro :/) only to be disappointed when it doesn't play the latest and greatest games at full settings but that's on them for not doing research.

Glad to hear you are happy with your purchase OP. I can't wait to see an Air in real life :)
 

haoqfu

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No, but I wouldn't be buying it and I would be bashing Apple for not building a premium powerful ultralight small laptop.

lots of bashers here complaining simply b/c of the price label, it might not include you, but there are considerable amount.

if mba costs cheap enuff, say 1% of your monthly income, i bet lots of bashers here will just shut up. it's just simple fact and i m amazed by the ability that ppl are able to lie to themselves.

i'm not saying i'm rich, i'm just stating the truth.
 

Gruber

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Jun 15, 2009
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Why the Air sucks for me

Let's get this out of the way first: The Air is a nice machine. Sleek, well-built (despite the hinge problem), and well-specced (despite the lack of RAM). More than ample power for Office work, Photoshopping and occassional coding. Great keyboard, and decent screen (Mushy, coarse, and unevenly lit compared to the Vaio TT, but so what). And it is cheaper than the immediate competition (Vaio TT, Dell Adamo, Lenovo). And it runs MacOS...

The Air is just not what I need. I need an ultraportable machine to work with. I want it to run MacOS, because I do not want to be bothered with Anti-Virus software, annoying Vista behaviors and updates every other day. I do not want to make compromises: my computer needs to be as light as reasonably possible, should run as long as possible without recharging, should not lag during starting programs, switching applications etc. It should have a high-res screen that is readable outdoors. It should have an amazing keyboard. It should plug into a projector at conferences without clunky adaptors. I should be able to connect an USB memory stick, a mouse and an external hd for backups, so ideally, it should have at least 3 USB ports, or 2 USB ports and a firewire port.

I am among the gazillion Mac users who wait for a successor to the 12in Powerbook. The Air ain't it. The Air has not been designed around its function, but around the attempt to impress fashionistas with a glitzy piece of squashed roadkill. The Air compromises on functionality not as a tradeoff for other functionality, but only for faggotry, erm, looks. I am not in the market for a fashion statement, but for a lightweight, fast computer! (Also, I am a little ashamed to be seen with the Air outside, because I am not a pimp, but simply some working with a light, compact, practical computer.)

Personally, I really do not care much for the looks of the Air. I do not need a screen bezel that is wide enough to act as a toilet seat. I do not need unused space left and right of my keyboard to place cups on. I do not need corners that are sharp enough to cut bread, or to cut into my wrists while I am typing. I do not need a stupid retractable landing gear flap to hide a single pathetic USB port that is so much receded that half of my peripherals do not fit. I have no use for the most proprietary display ports in the whole world, and then to shell out 99$(!) for a clunky adaptor. I do not care for the cW value; I want timeless and useful industrial design.

Again, the Air as such is quite an ok laptop. But I do not want it, and it is blocking the ultraportable slot in Apple's portfolio. I want a light 11inch unibody Mac without spindles. (And I am willing to pay for it!)
 

yoppie

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I agree that there are a lot of price bashers but I'm not so sure it's because they can't afford an Air, more so they think it's not worth the value it's priced at - they can get a "better" mac for a little less or a little more.

There are bashers for every mac computer out there, if it's not price, it's graphics card, screen size, screen quality, weight, etc. Heck, just being a mac is enough to be bashed. I say get what you want and be happy with it, everyone is not going to like everything so stop looking for that to happen.
 

haoqfu

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I agree that there are a lot of price bashers but I'm not so sure it's because they can't afford an Air, more so they think it's not worth the value it's priced at - they can get a "better" mac for a little less or a little more.

i agree. it's not b/c they can't afford, it's b/c they think it's not worth the value. and sadly, it goes back to the fact that they are not rich enuff. if sb. is truly rich, he won't complain abt if sth. is worth of the price or not, right?
 

belvdr

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no need to open a thread for those bashers. they are bashing simple b/c they can not afford it and unaware of this fact.

i agree. it's not b/c they can't afford, it's b/c they think it's not worth the value.

You're all over the place. First you say they can't afford it, then you say no, it's because they don't see value, and then...

and sadly, it goes back to the fact that they are not rich enuff. and don't get me wrong again, i'm not saying i'm rich.

Ok, so once again you're saying they cannot afford it. Nobody is concerned with your finances. They seemed to be concerned with the fact that you are grouping all people who dislike the Air into one group that has no money (i.e. cannot afford it).
 

yoppie

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i agree. it's not b/c they can't afford, it's b/c they think it's not worth the value. and sadly, it goes back to the fact that they are not rich enuff. and don't get me wrong again, i'm not saying i'm rich.

I don't think I'm making the same statement as you are but if you feel comfortable saying that, I'll let you. Being rich enough to afford an Air doesn't mean you buy an Air. The Air isn't even the most expensive mac notebook.
 

haoqfu

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You're all over the place. First you say they can't afford it, then you say no, it's because they don't see value, and then...



Ok, so once again you're saying they cannot afford it. Nobody is concerned with your finances. They seemed to be concerned with the fact that you are grouping all people who dislike the Air into one group that has no money (i.e. cannot afford it).

apparently, u need to take some logical courses.

as i said, only ppl who are not rich enuff will care about the value when it comes to purchasing.

Being rich enough to afford an Air doesn't mean you buy an Air.

agree. i'm just saying being rich enuff will not care about the value so much.
 

yoppie

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agree. i'm just saying being rich enuff will not care about the value so much.

So are you saying that all rich people just buy stuff to spend money. It doesn't matter if they don't like it or if it doesn't fit what they need. The Air is it! :confused: Someone needs to send out a public announcement, a lot of people aren't living up to this logic you've put forth.

I'm just trying to understand what you're saying. If Sam Walton or any of those people on the richest people list came out and said the Air sucks, what would there reason be? They're not rich enough??? Of course not.

You're pigeonholing people into one big basket and it's not that simple.

ETA: Believe it or not, rich people do care about value. It's how they hold onto/make money. It's the pretenders who throw away their money (I'm not suggesting Air owners are pretenders). Some of the richest people are some of the cheapest people around.
 

belvdr

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if sb. is truly rich, he won't complain abt if sth. is worth of the price or not, right?

I need logic courses? Anyone who buys something without considering the value of it is nothing more than an impulse buyer.

Let's say you have $30,000 cash laying around for a car. Do you buy the first car you see, without considering if it has the features you need and want? No, you don't, because you want the best value for your money. The same logic applies to any purchase.
 

aleksandra.

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The Air is just not what I need. I need an ultraportable machine to work with. I want it to run MacOS, because I do not want to be bothered with Anti-Virus software, annoying Vista behaviors and updates every other day. I do not want to make compromises: my computer needs to be as light as reasonably possible, should run as long as possible without recharging, should not lag during starting programs, switching applications etc. It should have a high-res screen that is readable outdoors. It should have an amazing keyboard. It should plug into a projector at conferences without clunky adaptors. I should be able to connect an USB memory stick, a mouse and an external hd for backups, so ideally, it should have at least 3 USB ports, or 2 USB ports and a firewire port.

I am among the gazillion Mac users who wait for a successor to the 12in Powerbook. The Air ain't it. The Air has not been designed around its function, but around the attempt to impress fashionistas with a glitzy piece of squashed roadkill. The Air compromises on functionality not as a tradeoff for other functionality, but only for faggotry, erm, looks. I am not in the market for a fashion statement, but for a lightweight, fast computer! (Also, I am a little ashamed to be seen with the Air outside, because I am not a pimp, but simply some working with a light, compact, practical computer.)

Personally, I really do not care much for the looks of the Air. I do not need a screen bezel that is wide enough to act as a toilet seat. I do not need unused space left and right of my keyboard to place cups on. I do not need corners that are sharp enough to cut bread, or to cut into my wrists while I am typing. I do not need a stupid retractable landing gear flap to hide a single pathetic USB port that is so much receded that half of my peripherals do not fit. I have no use for the most proprietary display ports in the whole world, and then to shell out 99$(!) for a clunky adaptor. I do not care for the cW value; I want timeless and useful industrial design.

Again, the Air as such is quite an ok laptop. But I do not want it, and it is blocking the ultraportable slot in Apple's portfolio. (...)

So is it "quite an ok laptop", or a fashion accessory? Make up your mind please. No need to insult everyone who has different needs just because Apple won't give you what you want.
 

haoqfu

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So are you saying that all rich people just buy stuff to spend money. It doesn't matter if they don't like it or if it doesn't fit what they need. The Air is it! :confused: Someone needs to send out a public announcement, a lot of people aren't living up to this logic you've put forth.

lemme just ask you one simple question, if mba only costs $1 to you, would you be buying it? just answer the question and do not lie to yourself.

if u can give a firm answer no, then you are not in the group of majority bashers here who are bashing b/c of price.
 

darrellishere

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If you buy a macbook air off ebay like I did, then you end up saving yourself allot of money and it dose seem like good value! Also you can sell it for almost the same price you paid for it! Considering I'm on this little baby most of the time, the value and productivity is huge!

Its light comfortable to use, and indispensable. Mind you the screens on the new macbook are gorgeous! GRRR!

That laptops just a little too heavy for me , but I would like to test drive it!

I can even edit my aperture library located on my ssd mac mini!

& accesses all my Mini's files/Movies and Music! The invisible umbilical cord. Booth serve their different prepossess!

You cannot bash the Air now that the prices have fallen and you look and hold the competitions efforts.
 

haoqfu

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I need logic courses? Anyone who buys something without considering the value of it is nothing more than an impulse buyer.

Let's say you have $30,000 cash laying around for a car. Do you buy the first car you see, without considering if it has the features you need and want? No, you don't, because you want the best value for your money. The same logic applies to any purchase.

if i have $30k budget for a car, of course i won't buy the first car i see. but if i have 3 billion in my account, i might just buy any car i first see :rolleyes:
 

yoppie

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lemme just ask you one simple question, if mba only costs $1 to you, would you be buying it? just answer the question and do not lie to yourself.

if u can give a firm answer no, then you are not in the group of majority bashers here who are bashing b/c of price.

If the Air was $1, I would buy it. That's because the perceived value of the Air is more than $1. That's called a BARGAIN. It's not that I (or someone else) can't afford it at $1499, it's that I think there's better out there for that price. Being rich does not mean you pay at any price. That's called being stupid. Again, I'm not saying Air owners are stupid. I'm just saying there are people out there who don't think it's worth it's price.
 

belvdr

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lemme just ask you one simple question, if mba only costs $1 to you, would you be buying it? just answer the question and do not lie to yourself.

if u can give a firm answer no, then you are not in the group of majority bashers here who are bashing b/c of price.

But it doesn't cost $1. The problem with that question is that for $1, anything seems like a good value these days _and_ the fact the machine doesn't cost $1.

I know what you're trying to say, but given the current cost is at least $1,500 USD for the base Air, they can choose whether or not this machine is worth their money.
 

yoppie

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if i have $30k budget for a car, of course i won't buy the first car i see. but if i have 3 billion in my account, i might just buy any car i first see :rolleyes:

That's not what I'm saying. What I am saying though is I won't pay Lamborghini money to own a donkey.
 

Fizzoid

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apparently, u need to take some logical courses.

as i said, only ppl who are not rich enuff will care about the value when it comes to purchasing.
And it would seem you need some common sense courses. Just because people have money it doesn't make them stupid, which is what you seem to be implying. They're still as likely to assess whether a MBA is worth the money as someone who can only just afford a MBA
 
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