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TacticalDesire

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What is the point of this thread? Why do I care why John Smith likes his IPhone?

If you weren't trying to start a debate then you wouldn't have posted this the alternatives section so I call BS on that.
 

El3ctronics

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Mar 30, 2011
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The Android OS is fragmented, which creates various problems, both for users and devs. And you are right--it is Samsung's responsibility, and fault, for not caring enough to update the user past Gingerbread. Even though we're at KitKat, things haven't changed since 2010 for Samsung.

And I believe the flexibility you are referring to is useful for power users, and not the majority of it's user base.

Get a Nexus and this is a non-issue.
 

PDFierro

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What is the point of this thread? Why do I care why John Smith likes his IPhone?

If you weren't trying to start a debate then you wouldn't have posted this the alternatives section so I call BS on that.

This was initially posted in the iPhone section.
 

viskon

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Oct 20, 2012
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Each of them have their strengths and weaknesses. Apple has great design and ergonomics but iOS is a lame OS with limited capabilities. Android is a wonderful, mature OS, but given a bad name by OEMs tweaking it, trying to differentiate themselves. For what I need, I find reports of Apple having a superior ecosystem vastly exaggerated. Similarly, I find crap apps and great apps on both platforms. Malware and virus concerns on Android is a myth perpetuated by Apple and regurgitated by its faithful. Never had any problem reading epubs or pdfs on Android.
 

PDFierro

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As for why I prefer iOS/iPhone over Android, 90% of the apps I use don't even exist on Android. The App store is far superior. Not to mention consistency, battery life, and being locked in with FaceTime and iMessage.
 

HiDEF

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Jun 23, 2010
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(1)As for why I prefer iOS/iPhone over Android, 90% of the apps I use don't even exist on Android. (2)The App store is far superior. (3)Not to mention consistency, battery life, and being locked in with FaceTime and iMessage.

In response to your comments:

1) "90% of the apps I use don't even exist on Android"--I find this hard to believe.
2) This comment is misleading. Yes, iOS Apps store is better but not by far. Google PLay over the months/years has improved immensely.
3) I used to get 2 days on my Note II battery running a stock TW ROM. My S4 running a stock AOSP ROM gets about 1 day and 12 hours on a single charge--iPhone doesn't match this.

Again, these threads are lame and always misleading.
 
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Lloydbm41

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Windows Phone RULES!

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PDFierro

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In response to your comments:

1) "90% of the apps I use don't even exist on Android"--I find this hard to believe.
2) This comment is misleading. Yes, iOS Apps store is better but not by far. Google PLay over the months/years has improved immensely.
3) I used to get 2 days on my Note II battery running a stock TW ROM. My S4 running a stock AOSP ROM gets about 1 day and 12 hours on a single charge--iPhone doesn't match this.

Again, these threads are lame and always misleading.

Regarding point #1 - I was not exaggerating.
 

cynics

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Why I strongly prefer the iPhone over any other Android phone

What is the point of this thread? Why do I care why John Smith likes his IPhone?



If you weren't trying to start a debate then you wouldn't have posted this the alternatives section so I call BS on that.


It was moved by the mods from the iPhone section.

Edit : see this was already responded too sorry
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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Why I hate the tense "strongly agree'....

AGHHH..

This thread & thread title = sounds like one of those annoying online surveys ...

reply 1 if you strongly agree,
reply 2 if you mildly agree,
reply 3 if you somewhat agree,
reply 4 if you neither agree or disagree
reply 5 if you want someone to gun you down on the street
reply 6 if your sleeping with your best friends sister
reply 7 if your sleeping with your best friends brother
reply 8 if you want fries with that
 

Bacong

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Mar 7, 2009
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Yes it can, but not natively. You need to use apps like Skype or Google Voice/Talkatone and have constant internet connectivity. I did it for 6 months prior to splurging on an iPhone, and if you read these forums you will find many examples of this. It's not easy and not for everyone but it definitely is possible.

I'm aware of the VOIP capabilities, I just don't think that's a compelling argument. It's just not the same, and lugging around an iPad everywhere, at least for me, would be an overwhelming disadvantage.
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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And why threads like this get moved here is something that I and others not understand.

I'm guessing cross-platform threads stand a better chance of maintaining a reasonable tone/discussion here where most of us are reasonable familiar with both platforms. Keep it in the iPhone sub forum where you have an overwhelming majority of iPhone heavy preference and the opposing view stands no chance whatsoever.

I agree though that these specific types of threads are more troll bait where the OP usually has no intention of initiating a viable discussion.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
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Security

Have there been a couple security problems with iOS lately? Yes, but Apple patched them up soon after. I'm not saying iOS is perfect. Far from it. But really, Android's OS security should be compared to Windows on a PC. I believe one of the main problems is the ability for any low-end developer to make an "app" for Android and publish it to the Play Store when it's really spyware, malware, or worse. I know people that use anti-virus software for their Android. Huh? It's sad. Those programs only drain the battery of the phone, and again, it's very similar to Windows on a PC. To make matters worse for Android, since all these different Android phones can hardly ever update to the latest OS, they're even more vulnerable.

iOS, on the other hand, has quite a stringent app process (highly publicized at times, especially at first), but in the end, it's benefited all iOS users. I don't have to worry if an app on the App Store is going to give me a virus, etc. There's no need for AV software for the iPhone. Big peace of mind.

Those who install AV software, do so just cause it exists or the specific AV software comes with certain features. I never heard of anything close to being a widespread virus problem on Android.

Just look at the Avast features for example.

Software Upgradability

It's well known that Android phones can't upgrade to the latest OS with any easy at all. And yet when some do, there's already a newer version released. That creates big security problems (as mentioned above), a fractured OS ecosystem that makes it a nightmare for developers to work with, and people don't get the new features when an upgrade comes out, yet they just shelled out $650 for this new phone seven months ago. And by the time a company makes a new version of the phone, they're even more sluggish and reluctant to care enough to update the previous phone that was touted new some months back.

On the other hand, a relative of mine is still using an iPhone 4. Running iOS 7. This is a phone that was made almost four years ago, summer 2010. A similar phone released around that time, the Galaxy S, still can only run 2.3 Gingerbread! Yikes. That's just a sample. Apple even cared enough for iPhone 4 owners to make 7.1, which made the phone OS work faster for that phone, as I can attest with testing my relative's iPhone 4.

I still have an iPhone 4 laying around and I wish I never upgraded it. You're only getting the new design and very few features from it on iPhone 4.


File/Music Management

First off, I understand that a lot of people like the ability to manage a file/folder structure. I like the ability on my computer, of course. I see the benefits. But I don't really see it for a phone. Android has a Windows-like folder system--one that has so many folders, including ones that seemingly users should never be allowed to access. You can't neglect the fact that a strong majority of Android users are people that have NO IDEA how to manage files, where to put things, etc. Android makes it very difficult for them. And each maker of Android phones has their own little transfer program to manage files, and some even try to sync your iTunes content. For those that do the latter, they do just an absolutely horrible job. After so much messing around with it for an hour, I still found no use for it at all.

And for music and other files, the majority of users want to use a third party app. I have tried a lot of them, and I never used one that made sense or was well designed. And many of them have ads nagging at you constantly.

The iPhone is way more streamlined. It doesn't show you the entire file structure of the phone that would confuse many people. It's build in music app is very well done. The use of iTunes makes syncing is incredibly easy. Some people don't like iTunes, but for those that appreciate it, it's extremely valuable and a perfect compliment for the iPhone. And for users that want file management, there's an option to enable that. You could even download a third party app also.

So your saying the majority of Android users are too dumb to have a file management system? Explain how most seem to understand the file system on their desktops, whether it's using Windows or OSX. I know plenty of non tech savvy people who understand and use the file manager just fine, including my non tech savvy mother who uses the Note 2.

Google music is much better than iTunes IMO. Much more freedom in managing music.

PDF / ePub Readability, Speed

This one is a big one for me. I do a lot of studying and reading with PDF and ePub files. If Android could do it better, or just do it fairly well, I might have given them stronger consideration. Here's the main problem: Android just does a terrible, terrible job with managing and reading these files. The third party apps are atrocious-looking, way too confusing, and can't even format ePub files well. And naturally, ads are always a click away. I've tried almost all the popular reading apps, and none were even half way decent. You would think that Google's built in app, Google Play Books, could do a decent job? It reads PDF's, and now ePub, I believe also. Has anyone else noticed that PDF's always render so slow, that it's it virtually unusable?? It's beyond words to me. Every app for Android is like that!

Apple does a KILLER job with iBooks. PDF's load extremely quick, and it's very fluid. Studying with ePub files is a DREAM with iBooks. Annotating is amazing. And the app is free. And there's no ads, etc. Managing the files are easy and well thought out. Thank you, Apple, for this necessary and valuable app.

I have no issues at all with PDF files. Runs fast and manageable for me. Can't really speak on ePub files.
 

boast

macrumors 65816
Nov 12, 2007
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I think the security thing can be dismissed since when the iOS7 jailbreak was released, cydia reported over 7 million unique devices using it. And with the cydia repo, that can be even worse than the android store.

As for why I prefer iOS/iPhone over Android, 90% of the apps I use don't even exist on Android.

That's as bad as windows users saying "I prefer Windows because 90% of my (Windows only) software doesn't exist on OSX"

The government dictates that you must receive vaccines when you were a kid. And you'd prefer the freedom to try the feeling of getting those diseases.

I think you could of come up with a better example. Vaccines and spreading diseases is something that affects everyone. That would be like saying the clean water act is the worst thing ever because govahment
 

PDFierro

macrumors 68040
Sep 8, 2009
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That's as bad as windows users saying "I prefer Windows because 90% of my (Windows only) software doesn't exist on OSX"

Except in this case, it's warranted. This isn't some business software we are talking about. Many developers choose to develop for iOS first, and in many cases, iOS-only. I've searched the Google Play store pretty extensively in the past, and it was completely void of what I was looking for.
 

Stuntman06

macrumors 6502a
Sep 19, 2011
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5
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The reason I chose an Android phone over iOS was simply that there were no iOS phones that had a built-in keyboard. That was pretty much the deciding factor for me over 3 years ago.

Now, I no longer have a phone with a keyboard since Android manufacturers recently only put keyboards on phones that are pieces of crap. At least, I have a choice on third party keyboards.
 

Switchback666

macrumors 68000
Nov 16, 2012
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Why I strongly prefer the iPhone over any other Android phone

My only problem with android is the audio quality, is disgusting
 

Robster3

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Dec 13, 2012
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As for why I prefer iOS/iPhone over Android, 90% of the apps I use don't even exist on Android. The App store is far superior. Not to mention consistency, battery life, and being locked in with FaceTime and iMessage.

I just swapped from iPhone to android. All my apps on my 5s are in the playstore.

Its different having a phone that has 30% battery left at 10pm at night.
 
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