What kind of problems?
Edit: You also said that you wasted a lot of time making ROMs. Why would you make ROMs if you didn't enjoy developing them?
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What kind of problems?
Edit: You also said that you wasted a lot of time making ROMs. Why would you make ROMs if you didn't enjoy developing them?
I've just tried that on a SGS3 and a Nexus 4 and it doesn't seem to do it on either of those phones. (I didn't know so tried)
I know if you get something like nova launcher it defaults to that.
I know more about Android that most people do. The fact that I consider the app drawer an extension of the home screen neither confirms nor denies that.
Nope. I have Nova and it doesn't do that. The second press takes you to the home-screen rearrangements screen by default.
The fact is that the home screen is totally independent from the app drawer. And the fact is that your claim that they are the same (now you seem to backpedal) shows a great ignorance about Android.
The lag is the biggest problem to me. The fragmentation is another, battery life too.
If they fixed those three I would seriously consider another Android device.
I have to give Google credit. They did fix one of the problems I had, the incredibly ugly UI. Android 4.x certainly looks the part.
I did, at the time. Looking back it was a waste of time.
I agree that I don't think anyone or very few would consider the app drawer the home screen. Even if you essentially make your homescreen an open app drawer....they are definitely separate.
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The best thing to do is get a launcher and turn off all animations. It makes it faster looking than an iPhone.
I think we'd be better served to agree to disagree on the supreme nuances and vast technicalities of the relationship between the Android app drawer and home screen.
Fair enough. One thing still bothers me. You said that Android is not open. Are you saying that compared to iOS or in general?
When you say fragmentation, are you referring to the lack of updates?
No technicalities at all, the fact is that they are differente processes, they have nothing in common, period.
When I think of open, I think of the PC market. I can buy whatever hardware, use whatever OS, do whatever I want.
I'd love if phones were that way. Sadly, they're not.
Furthermore, I would even consider it open if one could download and install a clean copy of Android over their pre-installed guff. Similar to Windows.
Yes. That, and the fact that the app quality suffers. The adoption of Holo has been painfully slow because of the update problem.
By contrast, apps have been updated for the iPhone 5 very quickly.
P.S. I appreciate you actually having a pleasant conversation.
What kind of hardware customization do you have in mind for a phone. It totally makes sense for a PC, but I'm not sure about phones.
For the OS, do you mean you should be allowed to install any OS, such as iOS or Bada, etc., on the device? Because that would have nothing to do with Android, but the phone itself.
But you can do that. Of course, you can't by default, but it is possible. In fact, after rooting, I'd say the process is similar to how it's done for Windows.
Yeah, I'd definitely like to see more holo apps. Perhaps compared to the iPhone 5 it's slower, but most of my favorite apps have been updated. Also, there's a nice list here:
http://androidniceties.tumblr.com/
Also, from what you said, it seems to me like you don't really care about the app drawer and would rather have everything on the home screen. Then why not use the MIUI launcher? I'm sure you know about it. In fact, I saw that you had a thread on it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278053
And for the update problem, wouldn't the Nexus line solve that?
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Wow. Thread went to crap quickly. I can confirm Mikey's status as a developer with XDA. Although it seems he gave up prior to implementation of ICS? And he clearly knows that carrier and manufacturer ROMs can be replaced with any custom rom.
BTW Mikey, if you thought fragmentation was bad on Android, don't develop any tweak for Cydia. A complete and utter pia to create an app for just the iphone and even worse if you want it to work on all the ipad variants. Just one image would require 7 different pixel densities.
BTW Mikey, if you thought fragmentation was bad on Android, don't develop any tweak for Cydia. A complete and utter pia to create an app for just the iphone and even worse if you want it to work on all the ipad variants. Just one image would require 7 different pixel densities.
Hey Mikey, you wouldn't happen to be MikehMike01 from the Verge, would you? I hope not because that guy does some serious trolling and spreading FUD.
It would be a shame to find out that I've been wasting my time with a guy like that.
Edit: I'm quite sure you are. I have to say that you are in the huge minority of Android developers who have such a deep passion of hate for it. Also, the last person I would expect to be spreading hyperboles and misinformation about Android would be an Android developer. Personally, I'll be ignoring your posts from now on and I'd suggest that others don't waste their time with his posts either.
It would be a shame to find out that I've been wasting my time with a guy like that.
Edit: I'm quite sure you are. I have to say that you are in the huge minority of Android developers who have such a deep passion of hate for it. Also, the last person I would expect to be spreading hyperboles and misinformation about Android would be an Android developer. Personally, I'll be ignoring your posts from now on and I'd suggest that others don't waste their time with his posts either.
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. I've come across his silly comments before but I just made the connection today as I was reading some of the comments today at the verge. I have no complaints if someone talks about Android's shortcomings. But what really annoyed me is the fact that his opinions are so heavily skewed and that he uses his development experience to justify his opinion as taking prevalence over others.
2 phones out of over 4,000 Android devices available right now, impressive numbers
That's kind of like examining each carrier or region specific iphone as its own model, then further dividing by configuration. You'd end up with many different iphones within a single generation. I don't think it matters what OS you run. What should matter is if it accomplishes everything you require. You don't hit sites that won't load. You aren't locked out of using applications that you require.
I started of with the original iPhone then went the iPhone 3G. I heard the Nexus One was a good device, and it was good for maybe 2 months then I just got so frustrated with it that I ended up getting the iPhone 4. Now I have an iPhone 5 and I am still very happy with iOS.
My wife wished to replace her old Kindle so I decided to give Android a go again with the Nexus 7. After all the positive reviews I thought I would like it, but again it disappoints. Yes, for the price it is good. However, it is nowhere near as smooth as iOS and the quad core processor really adds nothing and probably just masks some poor coding on Google's part. My wife likes it, so we will be keeping it, but I am glad it is not my own device.
My wife wished to replace her old Kindle so I decided to give Android a go again with the Nexus 7. After all the positive reviews I thought I would like it, but again it disappoints. Yes, for the price it is good. However, it is nowhere near as smooth as iOS and the quad core processor really adds nothing and probably just masks some poor coding on Google's part. My wife likes it, so we will be keeping it, but I am glad it is not my own device.
Yep, it's one incredibly disappointing device. I, like you, got suckered in by all the positive reviews and people posting about it on the Internet. After that experience I'm never buying a device again without first having some extensive hands-on experience with it.