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Why I'm not buying an iPad (and think you shouldn't either)

I really have no interest in reading the article. I just find it interesting that you would think that I should care about what YOU think I should do with my money!

There are way too many good reviews out there already to bother reading the rants of a writer who is known for his endless ranting!

Looking forward to delivery tomorrow!!!
 
That's a fair argument. Interesting to note that there were several posts on this very forum over in the iPhone section complaining when the device went mainstream. That those early adopters felt less special now that they saw iPhones everywhere. They weren't a member of an elite group. Sort of the same thing, no?

Yes, and those people deserve the same type of harsh criticism. I enjoy the fact that the iPhone is so popular because it means there are more developers writing apps for it (and it allows me to justify spending my time at work building apps for it, too).
 
I really have no interest in reading the article. I just find it interesting that you would think that I should care about what YOU think I should do with my money!

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. I'm guessing you also didn't bother to read the posts in this thread.

Post right before yours:

I think some people may have been confused at the title of this thread. I intended to merely restate the title of the article being commented on, not tell people what they should do with their money.

You post an article for discussion and people respond as if you are scrutinizing their personal values. :(
 
All part of the plan...

Hi folks,

Not here to flame as I must admit being in the IT industry I understand where this guy is coming from however I find it slightly biased in some aspects and fully justified in others.

People pick holes in the iPad (of which admittedly there are many) however having worked for Apple in the past you must understand they have thought of all of this, people wanting a camera? full OS? Apple considered it and to quote the joker "its all part of the plan". Their progress in the technology market is hugely forward thinking. 2nd Model of the iPad may have a camera, OS4 will probably support multitasking etc.

Thats just my two cents (or pence as im british :))
 
lol...

You post an article for discussion and people respond as if you are scrutinizing their personal values. :(

Yeah - I guess they couldn't get past the title and realize you were quoting the title of the linked 'whine fest'. I appreciate the link to a different perspective, but to me the author really sounded like someone who was wishing for the 'good old days'. While the :apple: closed ecosystem is a big deal to some people, to others it is a new place to sell their wares - to create new software and share it with people. Awful lot of start-up app developers, some of them creating useless crap, and some creating really cool fun apps. If you don't want to go through :apple: use the web...

I use my iphone/ipod to consume media on the go. A bigger screen to do what I already do much more easily, and enjoyably at a relatively reasonable price point - makes the device desirable to me. That doesn't mean I won't come home and write code, and do other things on my 'COMPUTER' ...
 
The same thing could be said for the Xbox 360, PS3, Wii, DS, PSP. Those are closed systems that only run software approved by their manufacturers. I can't modify them, I can't program for them. I can buy games for them from many different retailers, but they all sell the same game, for the same price anyway.
 
Haven't read this thread at all. But I do have to say I am an adult. I do not need someone else telling me why I don't need something. I can choose for myself. Thank you very much!;)
 
Haven't read this thread at all. But I do have to say I am an adult. I do not need someone else telling me why I don't need something. I can choose for myself. Thank you very much!;)

I love how that article is all about not buying something that someone else dictates what you can do with it.

And it's an article trying to dictate to you what you should buy.
 
The article waxed on about how iThings are hard to take apart and modify. Let's see... Why did I start buying iThings? Was it to tinker? I think not. I bought iThings to relegate tech gadgets to that place in my life I think they belong: mere appliances. There when I need them. Out of my face when I want to do something else. I'm picking up an iPad tomorrow. Will I use it all day every day and all night too? No. It will collect dust just like my netbook collects dust. But for those times when I would normally grab my Ubuntu netbook and head to a meeting, I can grab the smaller and lighter iPad and it will serve the same purpose just as nicely. And I might even spring for a keyboard dock one of these days. I've already got the BT keyboard that I use with my Mac Mini HTPC so if I want to do some intense typing "on the road" I'd rather have the iPad with iWork, the BT keyboard and a cardboard easel with me. :cool:

I have thought quite a bit about buying a Kindle. The killer iPod app for me was Amazon Kindle. I can read manybooks.net stuff and I can download and read best sellers in a matter of seconds. :)

Will I jailbreak my iPad? Perhaps, but I think not. Will I take it apart? Perhaps if a good self battery replacement tutorial shows up. I went through the 4 putty knife ritual to get my G4 Mac Mini up to a gig of RAM so I'm up to popping open my iPad if I can do it without undue risk. :rolleyes: But what I'm not up for is tinkering for the sake of tinkering. I don't think that makes me a doublewide couch potato simply because I want a gadget that always turns on when I hit the power switch.:mad:

It's a tragedy that there aren't easily hackable hardware products around any more. It's not an Apple problem. It's an American problem. If you want to tinker with electronics, this isn't the continent for it. Try looking for electronic components. There is the ever shrinking Vidmar cabinet at your local Radio Shack (which itself is about to be acquired by Best Buy) and there is mail order from Digikey. If you're lucky, there is a Fry's nearby. All those small outfits were killed off by Radio Shack which is in turn being killed off by a consumer society where nobody wants to learn anything or build anything. But this isn't any one company's fault. Not even Microsoft. Well maybe it's Microsoft's fault. Isn't everything Microsoft's fault? ;)

Please don't blame Apple for selling me what I need. Sure I want tinkerable gadgets but what I need are gadgets that don't require tinkering to get a job done. I need information appliances.

Ahhh the good old days, (bad old days?) Sometimes I miss rotating the distributor cap to get engine timing corrected or tinkering with the points trying to set the gap correctly. No wait. I don't miss that stuff. I'm sure there are a few car enthusiasts around who do. But the rest of us simply need the car to start and run. Do you think car companies could make any money selling millions of card that require tinkering every time the weather changes? I don't think so either.

There are a lot of people I'm upset about when it comes to the dumbing down of American society but seriously Apple isn't to blame. And there's another point. Apple almost went broke "back in the day". Now they have discovered the "evil" of charging money for and making a profit on the stuff they make. And yes, like the Godfather they want to "wet their beak" in content other people produce. Sure the walled garden approach to the app store gets on my nerves. Sure the difficult to modify hardware is not for tinkerers.

But take a moment to think about what you are really asking for when you are upset at Apple for making a closed architecture product that is reliable but difficult to "mod". Who do you want Apple to sell to? 5.9 billion people who simply care that the thing works when they need it or the half a million or so tinkerers that cannot afford to provide Apple enough profit to keep the lights on in Cupertino? Apple has chosen wisely and I congratulate them for figuring this out before they followed Amiga to the pages of oldcomputers.net.

I will pick up an iPad tomorrow. I will pay a little extra for AppleCare. I don't plan on running back to the forums to rant 3 weeks from now when the 64 gig model suddenly comes with a camera, vibrating massage and anti gravity for $300 less. That's why they call it the bleeding edge. But I do want a smaller, lighter netbook. And I do want a "bigger iPod" so I can read my Kindle books more easily. And I won't feel like I made a mistake buying it because I can't run Photoshop CS4 or Mathematica on it on day one.

I recommend reading the article. It represents a point of view that I can relate to but I cannot agree with, and I certainly can't agree with the allegation that Apple regards the target market as lazy and stupid.
 
I really don't want to take this thread off topic.

We are all entitled to our opinions. And obviously you've misunderstood my posts. I don't dislike the iPad at all. I just have no interest at the present because there are things that it doesn't do that for me, would tip my purchasing power to buy one. It's a shame that people here can't accept things like this and/or allow conversations from both "sides". If this site were truly only apple fans and only positive posts were allowed, it would be boring as hell.

I wouldn't pretend to judge or know anything about you. I'd prefer it if you did the same. You don't have to like someone's opinion or agree with it.

My opinion of the purpose of this site remains. This is a site and forum dedicated to the discussion of Apple and their products. All types of discussions. The second someone tries to censor that discussion, the entire community here suffers. I'd prefer having an open forum and I would hope you do to. We can all learn from each other whether or not we share the same view.
 
The funny thing is, why would I even want to ticker other than being a hobbyist? I want the technology to fade so that I can actually worry about creating.

As a professional designer and writer, I don't want to have to worry about "tinkering".
 
Does anyone else find it interesting, and slightly annoying, that someone would make long-winded comments about why they don't want to buy an iPad? It just seems like a serious waste of time. I would never write eight paragraphs on why I think "Air Bud" isn't full of great acting.
 
Does anyone else find it interesting, and slightly annoying, that someone would make long-winded comments about why they don't want to buy an iPad? It just seems like a serious waste of time. I would never write eight paragraphs on why I think "Air Bud" isn't full of great acting.

:eek:
What? That dog was awesome! How could you say that?
:rolleyes:
 
I really don't want to take this thread off topic.
We are all entitled to our opinions. And obviously you've misunderstood my posts. I don't dislike the iPad at all. I just have no interest at the present because there are things that it doesn't do that for me,

You took it off topic by trying to validate Techhi's post. I wasn't even talking to you with my comments.


I wouldn't pretend to judge or know anything about you. I'd prefer it if you did the same. You don't have to like someone's opinion or agree with it.


AND..again, you keep talking about opinions. Fine, then validate your opinion with real facts. Heck, I'll even take the "it doesn't do flash" argument at this point. So far all I have heard is you don't like it. <sigh> I've said this so many times it's starting to bore me. Show me where Apple's take on the iPad falls short for you. If it's a valid reason I'll agree with you. What I take exception to, besides the troll mentality, is you thinking your opinion is the only one. You keep hiding behind the statement that you believe it's not for everyone and that you can't understand why people keep taking it personally. It's not that your opinion doesn't matter, it just doesn't matter to us personally. I have not attacked you personally but you keep saying that like it will make it true. It's not. You keep saying the iPad is not for everyone..and that is true. See? I used personally several times but it was never personal.;)

My opinion of the purpose of this site remains. This is a site and forum dedicated to the discussion of Apple and their products. All types of discussions. The second someone tries to censor that discussion, the entire community here suffers. I'd prefer having an open forum and I would hope you do to. We can all learn from each other whether or not we share the same view.

Then share...what is it that bugs you about the iPad? This is the crux of the argument isn't it? What about it keeps you coming back to hammer at the gates? No SD card? No USB ports? Sandbox environment? The total sum you have stated with certainty is "it's not for you"...that's it? :confused:
 
Ya know, it doesn't even matter what Cory said. He succeed in rousing the ire and stirring the pot to the tune of a 100 message (at least) thread on at least one distant forum (this one). To agree or disagree is irrelivent. The post count is key. Well done Cory! We all fell for it. ;)
 
The reasons Doctorow gives for not buying an Ipad are good so long as they are his but they are in no way compelling enough to take me in the direction of "why I shouldn't buy one either."

He wants something he can swap the battery out of, hack software for, change hard drives, and maybe add peripherals. No doubt he wants it to run on Linux or something too.

I think they call that a PC.

I was a PC guy for a long, long time. I dabbled in Linux and liked it - mostly for the dabbling aspect of it.

Now I've reached a point where I just want stuff to do things for me. I want them to look smooth and snazzy too. Apple stuff fits the bill nicely. I like it that software for my Apple stuff always works on my Apple stuff and don't mind the baggage that goes along with knowing that. I guess I've devolved into the double wide dummy blob thing he talks about.

If/when I buy an ipad its so I can check email, surf the web, look at pictures, and maybe even update my FB status and check my friends while in bed or on the couch or at my coffee shop without the weight of my Macbook in my lap. I don't need to be able to modify it to automate vacuuming my rug or steer satellites in outer space. I'm done buying things so I can re-engineer them.

I used to like playing with Lego's and Lincoln logs when I was a kid because I liked building stuff. Now I like playing with stuff like an Ipad or Iphone and doing my work on a machine that I don't need to configure before I can do my work. That's just where I am.

The hole that Ipad fills doesn't exist in everyone.
 
He's saying you can't be innovative and creative, because... you can't write a book or draw a picture on it? Of course you can. Because you can't write your own text editor or drawing program? You can do that, too.

I think what he really wants is just a Registry and a removable battery.
 
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