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SuperKerem

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Ok, let me actually say something meaningful instead of being a smartass about it lol. If flying objects make you think the new devices will get edge to edge, then the iPhone should've had it 5 years ago, because iOS 5 and 6 had floating objects that were later changed in 7. The UI concept has technically gone a step backwards to iOS 6. Skeuomorphism is coming back quicker than you think. Anyways, I don't really think iOS 10 points to any hints of edge to edge at all. Just some redesigns here and there, and fixing (somewhat) what iOS 7-9 screwed up on. iOS 10 makes iOS 7-9 look like betas and alphas. 10 is definitely not as jam packed with features and overhauls as I though the 10th anniversary iOS would have, but its satisfying enough. Once again I don't see how floating objects hints at anything.

Still don't really care about edge to edge...
Well one thing I will say is that iOS 7-9 wouldn't work on an edge-to-edge screen due to the lack of bezels, while iOS 10 would, due to the presence of OS bezels. Just look at the Control Center.
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Interesting thought indeed. Since someone mentioned why implement it now, take a look at 'swipe to go back', introduced in iOS 7 and talked about in the iPhone 6 (iOS 8) keynote, same for the iPad multitasking before iPad Pro was revealed.
This is very true.
 

C DM

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Well one thing I will say is that iOS 7-9 wouldn't work on an edge-to-edge screen due to the lack of bezels, while iOS 10 would, due to the presence of OS bezels. Just look at the Control Center.
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This is very true.
Why wouldn't iOS 7-9 work on an edge-to-edge screen? Things would go to the edges--and realistically the content itself is still usually indented/buffered it's just visually the borders might not really be present around it all--but functionally earthing should still work just the same it would seem.
 

SuperKerem

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Why wouldn't iOS 7-9 work on an edge-to-edge screen? Things would go to the edges--and realistically the content itself is still usually indented/buffered it's just visually the borders might not really be present around it all--but functionally earthing should still work just the same it would seem.
Sure, it would work, but it wouldn't look too nice.
 

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It won't be edge-to-edge. It'll have a slight bezel. Take out 75% of the side bezels and 90% out of the top and bottom bezels.
 

kmj2318

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I see your point and I didn't come to that conclusion when I first saw the new design direction. It's an interesting idea but I don't agree with it.

I think it's that they found that encapsulation is just more user friendly. They look more like independent blocks, instead of the old way where they look like fixed content in a list. I see them selectively changing edge-to-edge screens to encapsulations where it makes sense. Funny that with the introduction of iOS 7 they said that people don't need cards because the dots at the bottom show that it's swipe-able, but it looks like they're going back to cards. Examples include the new music app player that is more card-like, no more edge-to-edge tap areas in For You, Maps has a card, but notice that in these examples, they still go partially edge-to-edge. So I think it's more about creating the visual metaphor for the user than planning for new types of screens.

I think one of the goals of the new notifications look is to not hide the wallpaper anymore, Craig even mentioned so in the keynote. And, if they're going to visually encapsulate lock screen notifications, it only makes sense to do the same for Notification Center. Also I believe that the search screen will one day be the home screen so it makes sense for the wallpaper to be visible there.
 

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Any thoughts?

I also tought of that when I first saw it in my hands.

It looks like the Apple Watch interface, that has been (according to the man himself, Jony) designed around the fact that it's an OLED that can turn totally black, like the bezels in the watch. that they tried very hard to make you forget there's an end to the watch screen.

So, I would guess edge-to-edge OLED in the iPhone 7.
 

Zirel

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Except we know an edge to edge OLED screen is not coming to the 7 this year (dozens and dozens of images leaked of the 7 design) and that Apple isn't rumoured to go OLED until next year in 2017 with the 7s or whatever they end up calleding it.

You know the same as me: nothing.

You've seen "countless" leaked images because it comes from the same fakes manufacturer. Or else, you wouldn't.
 

jeffe

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It just looks better. Thats all there is to it.

Agreed. It just looks better. Also, AFAIK and I could be wrong but Android does not by design have edge-to-edge notifications but Samsung actually modifies them to be edge to edge on their Phones including their phones with edge-to-edge displays and they still work fine.
 

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Oh come on! There has been proper leaks of parts and designs for all iphones since at least iPhone 4. Why would the upcoming iPhone be any exception?

Everything repeats, until it doesn't.

But this topic is about this possibility, there are topics about the leaks in the news section.
 

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Oh come on! There has been proper leaks of parts and designs for all iphones since at least iPhone 4. Why would the upcoming iPhone be any exception?
Like the whole big build up about the "teardrop" design and all that that didn't even come close?
 

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OP, you are right on the ball.

Check TODAY's about Touch-ID being integrated in the OLED Bar in the new MacBook Pro's.

This means that Apple possibly has integrated Touch-ID behind a OLED display...

This means that these patents are not only being worked on, but are now consumer ready - and we are seeing the first stage in the new MacBook - as Touch-ID will likely be behind the OLED strip.

Guess what else is going OLED? The 2017 iPhone.

So while the newly designed OLED iPhone isn't ready yet, we get to taste a little bit of it this year with the 3D Touch home button. Next year we may have a in-display touch-ID.

(I appreciate Apple waiting an extra year to make the 2017 iPhone perfect rather than rush it)

And as you said, notifications and control Center used to be edge to edge. This UI might not translate too well on a wraparound display, and hence probably why iOS10 has gone to a rounded cards overlay.

My prediction:
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Like the whole big build up about the "teardrop" design and all that that didn't even come close?

There's a difference between concept images made by some random designer vs. actual leaked parts a month away form the new iPhone release, as happens every year. There is a clear difference between the two that you seem to not understand.

Teardrop design was never a real thing. There was no buildup. It was just a rumor with no evidence whatsoever to support it.
 
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C DM

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There's a difference between concept images made by some random designer vs. actual leaked parts a month away form the new iPhone release, as happens every year. There is a clear difference between the two that you seem to not understand.

Teardrop design was never a real thing. There was no buildup. It was just a rumor with no evidence whatsoever to support it.
Plenty of cases were being designed and leaked based on it, among other things. It was a rumor, but at the time it was much more than you are trying to make it out to be. And what leaked parts are we talking about? Random prototypes or photos/videos that people post (some that are coming back as actual fakes, and others that are just concepts)?

The point is, once again, there was a time when the majority was leaning toward one design as being the next thing, which never actually happened. So it hasn't always been the case that things turned out as "expected". It doesn't necessrily say anything in particular about this time around, but it does say that it hasn't always been the case nevertheless.
 

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After the recent rumor of the 10.5 inch iPad, this furthers the possibility of an edge to edge display on iPad and IPhone .
 
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