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iPad Why it's impossible to downgrade now? (update: confirmed, it's really impossible)
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Indeed.
And yes, I jump on the beta bandwagon by installing macOS 10.15 beta 1 and installing iOS 13 beta 1 to start the beta trip, So that I can keep using iTunes 12.6.5.
I hate saying this, but despite all posts from other members, you are claiming a BETA iOS is worse than an offical release software. This is such a stunning display that I am speechless for all your complains here. Also, even if downgrade path exist, it is dangerous to keep jumping around between beta versions of a major release. I lost a whole year of my iMessage because of jumping back to iOS 8.4 during iOS 9 testing. Granted, I did not use this fancy 3utool to do it back then, but stock app’s data can be upgraded during the process, and trying to downgrade will damage those upgraded data, making them unusable.
Another note is, Apple can intentionally break features in beta to zone out certain set of bugs and help fixing other bugs. Yes, they will break your app or feature on purpose during beta period. I don’t have any solid confirmation to back this claim but you should get the idea.
I cannot help you in regard of 3utools or anything similar, but like other members, I strongly suggest you put down beta expectation and stop playing around with beta versions. It does not worth it.
I couldn’t downgrade via iTunes. I kept getting an error. I guess I could go to Apple Store but for the most part Beta is working out fine for me. So I will just stick with it.
I think we can all concede that there is no way to downgrade your device if you refuse to do what it takes to downgrade the OS.
Yes, the OS that has been publicly available for about a year is better than the one that has been in beta for a month or 2. Shocking revelation.
In other breaking news, the iPhone XS Max is a better device than the iPhone 4
You are stuck because you installed an update meant for developers to test their apps. You obviously show a lack of knowledge in terms of how beta testing and beta builds work. Just cause they fixed no bugs from beta 2 and break more stuff in beta 3 doesn‘t mean these bugs will exist in the final build of iOS13. They‘re called betas for a reason, they push experimental things all the time and it can very well get worse even up to the final beta. The price you pay to be on the bleeding edge.
I advise you to take your darwin award and wait for the next beta... and pray it fixes the issues you mentioned.
I haven't gone through all of the replies, but it's super easy to downgrade back to iOS 12. I made an encrypted backup on iTunes from my iPad on iOS 12, installed the iPadOS 13 on my IPP, played around with the software for a couple days, then reverted back to iOS 12 using my iTunes back up. Pretty simple really.
The issue here is he was hoping that tool thing can let him move from versions to versions of iOS without losing all data, which is simply not the case for such a major release. And then he complains about Apple breaking stuff in beta 3 instead of constantly improving it, showing his lack of understanding of how beta testing works. Now he is in a dead loop.
He also expects 3rd Party, unauthorized tools to do it. He expects known piracy tools to assist him, and for Apple to make those piracy tools work. (Please don't say TweakBox isn't a piracy tool.)
Ah, but when the Xs Max was a prototype on Jony Ives' nice wooden table in Cupertino with wires sticking out all over the place, the iPhone 4 was the better phone. Just like iOS 12 is currently a "better" [operating] OS than iOS 13 currently is.
It just isn't going to stay that way...
We are on the brink of a final iOS 13 release and you guys don't want me to compare these beta fiascos with iOS 12?
I am glad I returned to iOS 12, because at least in my IPP 10.5. things were far from smooth. Not sure if could have been better with a clean install, though...
And if you know another method of installing a beta without 3uTools I am all ears.
I am glad I returned to iOS 12, because at least in my IPP 10.5. things were far from smooth. Not sure if could have been better with a clean install, though...
And if you know another method of installing a beta without 3uTools I am all ears.
Complains that he can't downgrade his iPhone that is on iOS 13, refuses to use version of iTunes compatible with iOS 13. Makes sense.
We are no where near being “on the brink” of release for iOS 13. We may not see the GM until end of August or beginning of September, and that leaves plenty of betas ahead. This thread is ridiculous and so is the OP.
The current official method provided by Apple.
I am wiling to bet, that MOST people in here, did NOT use 3utools to install it. Why would you use that to install the beta? Why not do it the normal way, like everyone else.
You jump right into an major iOS early beta but you refuse to update iTunes and still want to use the old program.... Its just illogical to me and you just created your own problem. If you can't downgrade, its just your fault.
Windows world using iTunes is a bit trickier than on Mac OS X when installing a single support package would allow devices to be connected to iTunes even when iTunes itself is in older version. But, if he opens iTunes setup package using 7-zip, theoretically he can extract those msi files and install the one to update without installing a whole new version of iTunes. I am looking into it but yet to get the chance to try it out.
On the other hand, his action of using 3utools is, um, a bold move at best.
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Brink? You cannot even wait for two full months? Oh wait, we have passed June already in the form of first and second beta. So yes. And two months is nowhere near “brink” no matter how you spin it.
Unfortunately middle school doesn’t go back in session until around the same time the final will release. So he will have to suffer until then.
This is one of the most entertaining threads in a while! OP should do stand-up, anything but beta testing!
Well, OP will just YOLO-install the beta for 14 and complain about that. He won't see the benefits of the most stable 13 release.
Here is a list of Apple-approved tools to install beta software, as a refresher:
- Xcode beta
- Finder/iTunes (depending on your version of macOS)
- Apple Configurator beta
Using third party software is not warranted and violates the developer terms.
[doublepost=1562971497][/doublepost]I will admit, with beta software sometimes a downgrade is in fact impossible. I’ve had this issue at least once every beta cycle. Just have to wait for the next seed.
But surely you didn’t use a mission critical device.......
And I’ll add...if one of the approved tools didn’t work then nothing will. Just update the device in recovery mode to the next seed and then restore back to 12. Sometimes that will work. It can be weird.
- Xcode beta
- Finder/iTunes (depending on your version of macOS)
- Apple Configurator beta
Using third party software is not warranted and violates the developer terms.
[doublepost=1562971497][/doublepost]I will admit, with beta software sometimes a downgrade is in fact impossible. I’ve had this issue at least once every beta cycle. Just have to wait for the next seed.
But surely you didn’t use a mission critical device.......
And I’ll add...if one of the approved tools didn’t work then nothing will. Just update the device in recovery mode to the next seed and then restore back to 12. Sometimes that will work. It can be weird.
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