This has been happening since the initial release of Geekbench 4 with Nvidia video cards using the Nvidia web drivers.
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why my 2010 macpro 5,1 X5690 with poor score?
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This has been happening since the initial release of Geekbench 4 with Nvidia video cards using the Nvidia web drivers.
Do you know why only showing dimm1-4 there is no 5-8 and don't have b CPU information
Nope. I didn't install it myself. The Ebay reseller must have swapped cpu's in the Mac Pro with an X5680 from a W3680, right? Because a stock mid-2010 Mac Pro with a 6-core option would have been a W3680? X5680, I hear, are only used for dual CPU configs, right?
Anyway, I don't understand the OP's concern. His geekbench for a 6-core 34.6 Ghz cpu, a X5690, is over 15K, which is quite high for a six-core processor. A lot higher score than my 12K 3.33 Ghz score even tho, it only has like .13 more Ghz speed....
His Open CL score is confusing though at 50K or so since it doesn't show any GPU's. Is that score using his CPU? I wasn't able to choose CPU option for Open CL benchmark on GB4 trial version.
Should an X5680 be scoring a lot higher than 12K? Or, is my CPU also like old and slow, now? It is a used Mac Pro and swapped probably from another machine by the eBay reseller....
Also, off topic, my Mac Pro has a hum. I have to lay books on top of it to make it quieter. Is this normal? It's not fan noise or HDD noise. It's like a Hum, like, a yoga instructor meditating and humming. In my small room, the hum without the books on top of it is very audible and annoying. Even with headphones on. But, with books on top of Mac Pro, the hum has been mitigated a bit so it's more tolerable. Just wondering if my used Mac Pro is like defective, again. I guess I can't do anything about it and I have to live with it. But, just wondering....
Thanks!
same data showing after reset,but i find out why i got low scroes,is because the ram,i use 4*16 and 4*8,i remove the 4*8,then i get 20538,thanks you guys help!!!
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is the problem with ram ,i have 4*16 and 4*8 before,when i remove the 4*8 then i got 20000+
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I think these Mac Pro's are triple-channelled, if I am correct. So, leaving one slot free is suppose to be better. But, not sure.
Anyway, I didn't realize you were running dual CPU configs. And, the 15K score would have been low. But, your 20K score is now aligning towards normal. Although, I don't really know what that is.
But, I took a snapshot of Geekbench Mac Benchmarks and shows a 3.1 Ghz Mac Pro 12-core, dual CPU configs on the chart. I didn't wanna specifically look for the X5690 benchmark because they vary wildly in Geekbench. I don't know.
So, what is the normal score for 2x X5690's Mac Pro? In the 22K's?
PS--if these Mac Pro's are, indeed, triple-channel, maybe that is why my GB score is also barely 12k because I have 4 x 4GB RAMs in there.
Okay. So, the eBay reseller must have swappped a X5680 cpu from another machine then that's not apple and put it in the Mac Pro they sold me. Ugh!
Is that normal for an eBay reseller to willy-nilly put random CPU's in the Mac Pro and sell them like that? You would figure that they would at least tell you that the CPU is not a stock CPU or that it has been swapped. Oh, well. I knew going in I was heading into sketchy territory.
Integrity really goes in a nose-dive when $$$ are involved!
Never will I buy from eBay again! Especially computers!
PS--By stock, I just, sorta, meant that I was hoping the machine was, like, as "stock" as possible. And that they just dusted it out. Meaning, they didn't get their gummy hands in the "engine." But, oh well, they do "touch" it, gut it, willy-nilly swipe and swap these machines and sell them, as if, they didn't. So, beware ppl.
PSS--Since the X5680 CPU is not an option for a Mac Pro, who knows where that X5680 might have come from, which makes the second-hand used Mac Pro thing even more variable. Like, that X5680 might have come from a PC with a person who tweaked and OC'd it like there's no tomorrow and sold it to eBay. And that eBay reseller put it in my Mac Pro???
PSSS--with a stock 6-core Mac Pro, you'd at least have that peace of mind that that person did not OC the W3680 on a Mac Pro. You know what I mean?
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The X5680s and X5690s are used by quite a few people to upgrade their Mac Pros. There are no compatibility issues when using these CPUs. However, they will run hotter than the stock CPUs.
look at the back of the mac pro it will have it's original speck on the back at the bottom of the PCI panel (on the outside not internal) the serial number will also show it's original speck.
it will state the original speck of the unit.
It is vary normal for ebay sellers to do it as they can buy a cheaper one get the cpu cheep then sell for a much higher price, it's up to you if you want to dispute it or not relay depends on the original listing and local rules where you live.
(it's fairly normal to see 4.1's upgraded to look like 5.1's to get a higher price)
ps yes the cpu's are fine
it will state the original speck of the unit.
It is vary normal for ebay sellers to do it as they can buy a cheaper one get the cpu cheep then sell for a much higher price, it's up to you if you want to dispute it or not relay depends on the original listing and local rules where you live.
(it's fairly normal to see 4.1's upgraded to look like 5.1's to get a higher price)
ps yes the cpu's are fine
Please, Please do a search before you start making posts like this. You are just running your mouth when every one of your trepidations has been addressed on this forum many many times. Nothing is "sketchy" or "willy nilly" about your CPU swap if the seller explained it correctly. I have strong feeling he did. As far as overclocking, nope, if you have an X5680, it is running @ it's stock clock speed of 3.33Mhz.
As far as explaining what CPUs work where. I wrote the following a few years ago:
You may also want to read this thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-pro-cpu-compatibility-list.1954766/
While not completely accurate, it's really pretty good explaining things for the novice.
Lou
Okay. Mine says:
Model No: A1289
Mac Pro/2.4_8CX/8x2GB/5870/1TB/SD
The one I got is:
3.33 Ghz CPU (X5680); HD5770; 4x4GB; ITB HDD; SD
Do I have any claims?
Should I live with it?
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Okay, fair enough. Although, the eBay reseller did not specify that the machine was swapped. The sticker on the back of the Mac Pro is different than the actual machine I received. But, that part is missing in the product page. No mention of CPU tray swap or that the original HD5870 was swapped with a lower end HD5770, etc.
Do you think that's why my Mac Pro 6-core X5680 can only barely break 12K in Geekbench because it's like been through eBay swapping butcher shop?
PS--eBay reseller probably took out the X5680 from a dual CPU machine either from a Mac or a PC machine and put it in a single CPU machine like my Mac Pro to get the most bang out their bucks, which is not good and sketchy. Or do you like to argue that, too?
PSS--Also, no mention of this on the product page for this machine, which I still have a link to , of which I just double checked.
PSSS--I think I wanna make a point that I regret this dumb humming Mac Pro purchase from eBay. But, it was an experiment. I think I know now not to do it again. Like, ever!
PSSSS--I mostly regret the Mac Pro because of humming vibration and that it's a power hog. But, I digress.
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^^^^ OK, my last reply to you. You are obviously very angry at the seller of your machine. And I really don't understand why. You obviously didn't do any research before you bought the machine, but here goes.
1. You have a 2010 5,1 cMP that was originally equipped with 2 E5620 CPUs. My machine started life that way.
2. Yes, it looks like there was a tray change. But that should affect nothing, if done correctly.
3. Looks like your machine came with the optional GPU the HD5870. The HD5770 came standard.
4. If the swapping was done properly, the machine should perform exactly as it would, had it come from the factory so equipped.
5. Yes I argue with your PS, as I explained in my earlier post, there is absolutely nothing wrong with using an X5600 series CPU in a single CPU application. In fact, it is better, because it will handle more RAM. And speed for speed, an X5600 series CPU will be more Expensive than an X3600 CPU.
6. Can't answer your PSS.
7. To your PSSS - OK, that's certainly your choice.
8. To your PSSSS - It's a very powerful machine, and my 5,1 is going nowhere.
BTW, I guess I butchered my machine because I replaced the CPUs, the GPU, the optical drives, all the internal drives and etc. Please remember, one of the really GREAT features of the cMP is that it's so expandable.
Have a Good Day!
Lou
1. You have a 2010 5,1 cMP that was originally equipped with 2 E5620 CPUs. My machine started life that way.
2. Yes, it looks like there was a tray change. But that should affect nothing, if done correctly.
3. Looks like your machine came with the optional GPU the HD5870. The HD5770 came standard.
4. If the swapping was done properly, the machine should perform exactly as it would, had it come from the factory so equipped.
5. Yes I argue with your PS, as I explained in my earlier post, there is absolutely nothing wrong with using an X5600 series CPU in a single CPU application. In fact, it is better, because it will handle more RAM. And speed for speed, an X5600 series CPU will be more Expensive than an X3600 CPU.
6. Can't answer your PSS.
7. To your PSSS - OK, that's certainly your choice.
8. To your PSSSS - It's a very powerful machine, and my 5,1 is going nowhere.
BTW, I guess I butchered my machine because I replaced the CPUs, the GPU, the optical drives, all the internal drives and etc. Please remember, one of the really GREAT features of the cMP is that it's so expandable.
Have a Good Day!
Lou
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I am only mildly disappointed because of the fact that the whole eBay butcher-swap shop would not be a normal practice, if $$$ weren't involved. It's a question of buying a machine 2nd hand, 3rd hand, 4th hand or an unknown number of hands. Do you know what I mean?
But, in all, I'm not really angry. Just a bit disappointed of the sleigh of hand in the name of $$$, instead of
But, if the machine works as it should for the next 2-4... 3-5... 4-7 years, which it is, currently I'm a happy camper. I gave the seller 4-5 stars anyway.
I think my posts today has just been sort of reactionary on my part... like all things about this computer coming up at once, like a kind of low Geekbench score and a hum from the Mac Pro that I didn't notice before. But, is remedied now and I don't really care in the end that my Mac Pro can only Geekbench 12,000 reps. It's more than enough for my needs.
Like, I said, I just need it to last me a few years.
PS--I think there's a difference between you working on your machine. And, an eBay reseller doing the same thing for $$$$. I think there is a difference. If, not, then I need to be less sensitive about it.
The seller did nothing wrong if he clearly stated that the machine has 6 cores 3.33GHz Xeon, 5770, etc.... unless he said that's the stock config.
X5680 is actually a better, more expensive CPU then the W3680. It's good that he use X5680 but not the W3680.
The X5680 has higher max T-case temperature limit, and able to run more RAM then the W3680. If I were you, I will be happy that's the X5680 but not the W3680.
In terms of performance, 6 cores 3.33GHz actually slightly faster than 8 cores 2.4GHz in multi thread operation. And much faster in single thread operation. Which is another pros.
For the humming noise, please stick to another thread, I've already made an reply at there.
Yeah. No, I agree. The Mac Pro was sold as advertised. I just wished it was sold as "stock" as possible for what that's worth because for some reason, I think, more "stock" means more valuable or worry-free in my head. But, I could be wrong. Nor, does it matter in the end, whether or not some components were swapped as long as they work as intended.
Like you said, the 2.4 8-core CPU, which was supposedly the "stock" CPU for my Mac Pro is close in performance to a x5680, anyway.
But, thanks for your input. I really don't care I think, in the end, about the swapping thing. I paid a certain amount of money into it and expected the Mac Pro to work, which it does.
So, yeah. Thanks for your input.
One last thing, I found this benchmark curious. The X5680 lags behind the W3680. But, it's, kinda, negligible. Although, I don't know why two CPU's with the same clock speed and architecture aren't closer to each other than they are on this Geekbench chart....
forget benchmarks. does it do what you want it to do at the speed you want it to run at? i.e. is it fast enough for you to do your work in a reasonable timescale, or do real world tasks like web surfing seem slow? If it is fast enough then don't worry. If it is slow then look at why - CPU, amount of free RAM, disk queue, network performance, etc. Benchmark scores are useless on their own. Of course if you are only using the machine so you can get benchmark scores then then there's pretty much always going to be something that is faster than what you have.
