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Fred Zed

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Aug 15, 2019
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Upstate NY . Was FL.
Well, we already have OEMs like Oppo and Xiaomi making $1000 phones that only have 1 or 2 OS upgrades in their lives. So that price hike already happened. :D Hopefully consumers will be expecting more. I mean at the least security patches. Google has made it easy and it doesn't require too much effort from the OEMs, yet they are still being lazy. Only 2 years of quarterly security patches is pathetic.
Those two manufacturers are not sold officially in the USA. Wonder why ? Ironic that since the abolishment of subsidized handsets by the USA carriers choices have gotten less and prices are on average higher. It’s all good if you’re the likes Mr T-Mobile and Co though. Expensive devices , sold on interest free payments for sometimes up to 36 month durations.
 

RadioHedgeFund

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Sep 11, 2018
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Those two manufacturers are not sold officially in the USA. Wonder why ? Ironic that since the abolishment of subsidized handsets by the USA carriers choices have gotten less and prices are on average higher. It’s all good if you’re the likes Mr T-Mobile and Co though. Expensive devices , sold on interest free payments for sometimes up to 36 month durations.
This has always puzzled me: do you not get a handset for 'free' upfront and then spread the payments for the duration of your contract? This is how every contract works in the UK. Very few people buy a phone outright and then get a monthly plan. Eg I can get a Samsung Galaxy S21 with 24Gb of data for £29 a month (about $40) with no downpayment and the handset mine at the and of the 24 month contract.
 

Populus

macrumors 603
Aug 24, 2012
5,835
8,309
Spain, Europe
welcome to the club. I had the first few iphones to the iPhone4, then went Samsung/Android for years.. Pixel 3 was my favourite model, until I finally decided to come back to iPhone (to an iPhone 12). iOS had matured a lot and apps were supported etc. Oh. and I came back to a mac with the M1 MacBook Air. You can't beat FCP on a Mac!
Similar to my experience. I started with a borrowed iPhone 4, then I quickly purchased my first iPhone, the 4S. It was awesome by that time. Then, after a couple of years, I decided to jump into Android to know what it was like... Got a MotoG 2013, the first one, the one built by Google themselves (Motorola was purchased by Google if I recall correctly). I got a taste of KitKat, then Lollipop. Took ages to get 5.1 after a whole year on Android 5.0, but it finally got updated. The last update, of course.

With that compact Android phone, which was only 4,5”, I met love, and got heartbroken as well. By that time, as a metaphor of my love, the MotoG suffered a drop into the floor, and the screen got shattered in pieces just like my heart.

Enough of getting unnecesarily romatinc. I decided to start over. I also decided it was time to get back to the Apple ecosystem. By that time, when it wasn’t as usual as it is nowadays, Google asked me my ID card, a scanned copy, to allow me to keep using the Play Store, and until that, they blocked my account. That was the final drop that made me come back to Apple’s arms with strenght. So I got an iPhone SE, the first one, in 2016.

Since then, I’ve been happily on the Apple’s ecosystem, that might not be perfect, but at least I don’t feel my privacy is being constantly violated by Google or FaceBook. Also, their devices are great, by that time, most of Android smartphones kept growing in size, reaching dimmensions that only Thanos could handle with one hand. It was insane (as insane as the current regular iPhone sizes). So my next acquisition, when my SE died, was an awesome iPhone 8. To this day.
 
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Yptcn

macrumors 68020
Aug 24, 2012
2,156
1,190
Paris
My first iPhone was the 4S , before that I had BlackBerrys which I loved. BBMesserger was great for chatting with family and friends all over the world. I switched to iPhone at about the same time they did and haven’t looked back ever since. Neither did they..
 

Fred Zed

macrumors 603
Aug 15, 2019
5,776
6,478
Upstate NY . Was FL.
This has always puzzled me: do you not get a handset for 'free' upfront and then spread the payments for the duration of your contract? This is how every contract works in the UK. Very few people buy a phone outright and then get a monthly plan. Eg I can get a Samsung Galaxy S21 with 24Gb of data for £29 a month (about $40) with no downpayment and the handset mine at the and of the 24 month contract.
So in essence the device price and service is priced as one transparent figure which a consumer pays. No, that pricing structure wouldn’t work here in the USA. It’s far too transparent. 😂
The main carriers aka networks sell the devices independently from their services. They’ll do all the juju to keep you locked in for 2 to 3 years with offers that give your account a monthly credit for example. It’s all scam, consumer laws are non existent as are advertising prices. Example , join Verizon for 29.99 a month, then the fine print shows that you’ll need 10 tens lines of service to get that price. 😂
 
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Bodhitree

macrumors 68020
Apr 5, 2021
2,068
2,200
Netherlands
Well, people here are kinda talkative. But welcome, I personally think if the world was a fairer place everyone would be using iPhones.
 

matthewlswanson

macrumors newbie
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Nov 22, 2021
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Well, people here are kinda talkative. But welcome, I personally think if the world was a fairer place everyone would be using iPhones.
Apparently so! And I appreciate it. Seeing as they are now offering 1TB storage that might push my change over even sooner. If they had USB-C I would be there already! At work I test a lot of audio and network equipment so usb-c to ethernet, and my headphone jack come in really handy.

I also use a Walabot stud finder a lot and they just recently started supporting ios so that is even more reason!
 
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golfnut1982

macrumors 6502a
Oct 12, 2014
543
1,383
Chicago, IL
My story in pictures. Apple all the way. Haven't looked back since 4s, 5s, SE, 8, 13 Pro. Probably 14 next year or 15 later on.

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dontwalkhand

macrumors 603
Jul 5, 2007
6,462
3,003
Phoenix, AZ
I have had the iPhone since the first iPhone, and have been using Macs before they were called MacBooks. Never tried Android or even Windows. Before the iPhone was out, I was on BlackBerry and dumb phones. There's my story. tl;dr...I use Apple products.
 

chiringuito

macrumors newbie
Jul 9, 2008
10
1
The issue here is with OEM's though, not Google. Google's apps are, by and large the best at what they do on the Android platform and the last thing most people will delete. Even barebones companies like OnePlus still put theor own pointless Gallery app on their phones knowing full well their users will still rely on Google for their cloud backuops.
Whole lot of opinion in those statements…
 

pbonitati

macrumors regular
Aug 25, 2015
246
410
Rhode Island
No justification needed, be happy. But I will mention not all of your information is correct. I wouldn’t know where to begin, but I recommend doing some research in the areas that concern you about Android.
 

ian87w

macrumors G3
Feb 22, 2020
8,704
12,638
Indonesia
The issue here is with OEM's though, not Google. Google's apps are, by and large the best at what they do on the Android platform and the last thing most people will delete. Even barebones companies like OnePlus still put theor own pointless Gallery app on their phones knowing full well their users will still rely on Google for their cloud backuops.
Google apps are not necessarily the best. Worse, Google tend to lag behind in supporting new hardware features. For example, it took Google the longest to even support dual lens camera on their camera app, forcing pretty much all OEMs to create their own implementations. The same can be said on features like multi Windows support, foldable, etc. More innovations come from Samsung than Google.

And Google also starts to hold back their own software innovation, keeping it only for their Pixel devices. This pushes OEMs to do their own thing even more.

It goes both ways. The fragmentation is annoying, but it also pushes innovations so OEMs can do what they want instead of waiting for Google to support a new idea.
 

jdoll021

macrumors 6502
I just kindof got overwhelmed by the amount of responses lol
Have you considered a de-googled phone like /e/OS or LineageOS? Honestly, ever since Apple announced the CSAM scanning BS, I’ve been looking at getting out and considering Linux computers and de-googled devices so it’s curious to me that you’re looking to dump Android for Apple while I’m looking to get out.
 

Taz Mangus

macrumors 604
Mar 10, 2011
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Those two manufacturers are not sold officially in the USA. Wonder why ? Ironic that since the abolishment of subsidized handsets by the USA carriers choices have gotten less and prices are on average higher. It’s all good if you’re the likes Mr T-Mobile and Co though. Expensive devices , sold on interest free payments for sometimes up to 36 month durations.
T-Mobile changed it to 24 months. That is why I decided this year to use Apple’s 24 month plan. Plus I got an unlocked iPhone and set it up on T-Mobile.
 

matthewlswanson

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Nov 22, 2021
7
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Have you considered a de-googled phone like /e/OS or LineageOS? Honestly, ever since Apple announced the CSAM scanning BS, I’ve been looking at getting out and considering Linux computers and de-googled devices so it’s curious to me that you’re looking to dump Android for Apple while I’m looking to get out.
Yeah I've played around with AOSP and LineageOS and a few others like that. But you run into them being community driven and abandoned and they also tend to have somewhat garbage hardware. I run Ubuntu at work and I like it; I use Windows, macOS, and Linux pretty extensively on my desktops. I am considering switching away from Windows at home though once the M1 Pro Mac Mini comes out next year...
 
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