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Why was headphone jack removed?
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He uses the DAC/AMP in the office and the headphone jack while traveling I think:
Personally, I’d rather have a lighter tablet. The 12.9” is already as heavy as I’d like it to be. Battery life is great, and I don’t need a 3.5mm jack.
I agree about weight (but obviously disagree on the headphone jack).
Note that thickness and weight are not necessarily tied together. Often thicker devices are lighter and vice versa. Also a headphone jack and accompanying electronics weigh an almost unmeasurably small amount; so that’s definitely not a weight issue either.
They should have included it, but personally, I don't miss it. I switched to Beats Studio 2 in 2016 and plan to get the Studio 3, which connects with apple products very easily.
My guess is Apple is transitioning us to wireless headphones now because when they start offering usb c instead of lightening, using wired headphones is going to suck.
Reason being is I have read that usb c headphones have had issues with implementation and reliability. How many high end or good sounding usb c headphones have we seen? Hmmm.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/328...e-jack-why-usb-c-audio-still-doesnt-work.html
Reason being is I have read that usb c headphones have had issues with implementation and reliability. How many high end or good sounding usb c headphones have we seen? Hmmm.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/328...e-jack-why-usb-c-audio-still-doesnt-work.html
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On iPhone, I can cope. Wires stink and I'm moving around a bunch usually/charging my device while walking around my apt.
on Ipads/laptops (probably will be laptops affected next), I think its kind of cruel actually and inexcusable for the amount of surface area they have to work with and not waterproofing or anything else.
yet another type of dongle, is getting messy. It feels hacky just to use your iPad for basic use.
I would love it if APple's decisions came crashing and burning, and they bring back headphone jack and roll back the constantly hiked pricing
on Ipads/laptops (probably will be laptops affected next), I think its kind of cruel actually and inexcusable for the amount of surface area they have to work with and not waterproofing or anything else.
yet another type of dongle, is getting messy. It feels hacky just to use your iPad for basic use.
I would love it if APple's decisions came crashing and burning, and they bring back headphone jack and roll back the constantly hiked pricing
They can make it waterproof without removing the jack. I use to have Sony Z3 Compact, now I have Sony XZ1 Compact. Both have headphone jack and are IP68 waterproof.
On phone I understand that having the headphone jack causes bigger bezels. That I get. For iPad though the ergonomics are different. The bezels of the new iPad Pro are similar to my phone and my phone still has headphone jack.
I find Apple a bit contradictory these days, and this is one example. They remove the headphone port to strong arm people into going wireless, yet if you try to use wireless headphones with their own app GarageBand it tells you to get wired headphones because of latency. They want the iPad Pro to be a legitimate professional tool, especially to creatives, yet they only leave one port so musicians and editors have to choose between charging and plugging in headphones (with an adapter)—or they have to buy and carry around a USB-C hub for this basic function (along with the adapter).
It would just be nice if they were clearer on their message.
Apple said they removed it because it simply doesn't fit. I believe them.
Remember, it's not just the hole that needs to fit. The components surrounding the hole are bigger. With the edge-to-edge screen and the thinness of the case, there is simply not enough room in either depth or thickness.
Remember, it's not just the hole that needs to fit. The components surrounding the hole are bigger. With the edge-to-edge screen and the thinness of the case, there is simply not enough room in either depth or thickness.
It depends on the preference for sure. I prefer a bit thicker device that has headphone jack (and thus gives me the freedom to use both wireless and wired headphones) than to have no headphone jack. It's also not about believing them. As a consumer I see it differently. Apple as a company decided to do something for me (as a consumer) and as a result they decided that something that I need as a consumer does not fit into their idea. Cool. And then of course I as a consumer say that their vision does not fit in my needs which is why I don't consider buying an iPad Pro.
However for me personally the problem is in their contradictory marketing. Like I said using wireless headphones with an app like Garageband does not make sense. By removing the headphone jack they basically compromised the music and video editing aspect of the iPad Pro. And that is the key thing that makes the iPad Pro. It's certainly not pro when it comes to using Microsoft suite or when it comes to typing a lot or multi task (iOS is just not good when it comes to text editing which is huge of part typing in general). iPad Pro was a pro for digital art, music and video editing mostly. With this new iPad Pro they made a great looking device that however diminishes even more the Pro aspect of the device itself. Instead of moving to the direction of making it more Pro than it was before, they made it less Pro than it was.
I can't disagree with anything you said. Each person needs to take a close look at their specific use-case to decide if this device, particularly given its steep cost, makes your workflow better or not. It certainly IS limited in some very important ways. But for many, it also creates a ton of freedom and it brings a lot of horsepower to bear on whatever you throw at it.