Will all manufacturers start to move over to Pure Android? surely its the way forward.

[Tsepz]

Where were all these excuses when the iPhone lead the Speed Tests!?

The questions and excuses made when an iPhone loses at something always are entertaining I must say, people get really creative.

 

[Michael Goff]

Full disclosure: I haven't watched the specific speed video mentioned but how are they ready world tests of anything?

And ecosystem lock-in makes it impossible to just buy the fastest device

If you use Google services, device and OS aren't as important.
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Where were all these excuses when the iPhone lead the Speed Tests!?

The questions and excuses made when an iPhone loses at something always are entertaining I must say, people get really creative.

No, people throw excuses out when the iPhone wins. It's just different people and different excuses.

 

[Michael Scrip]

I haven't watched the specific speed video mentioned but how are they ready world tests of anything?

Good question.

Opening apps is a weird benchmark. Have we ever rated computers by how fast they open Microsoft Word?

Maybe we should compare SUVs by seeing which one has the fastest power liftgate...

 

[Tsepz]

Here's another one, again, Note8 owns the iPhone X

 

[convergent]

Full disclosure: I haven't watched the specific speed video mentioned but how are they ready world tests of anything?

And ecosystem lock-in makes it impossible to just buy the fastest device

You don't let yourself get locked in to an ecosystem.

And I would never just buy the fastest device because it was the fastest device, nor more than I would buy a car based purely on its 0-60mph time. The biggest things these speed videos are doing I think is showing that Samsung phones are not bloated and slow, which is what I keep hearing people say that apparently haven't used a Note 8.

 

[JamieLannister]

With reviews coming out of the Pixel 2 being smoother than Clint Eastwood in a spaghetti western movie surely pure Android is the way forward?

Also the Mi A1 is getting great reviews, mainly because its Android One and guaranteed Oreo before end of 2017

Android is getting such good reviews, its really matured to be an iOS beater.
Now must be the time for Alphabet to say to manufacturers 'you cant tinker'?

that's ludicrous! Who the hell wants pure android = no features vs Samsung on top of android? Samsung all the way. Pure android is fast because there's no extra features vs Samsung

 

[lowendlinux]

that's ludicrous! Who the hell wants pure android = no features vs Samsung on top of android? Samsung all the way. Pure android is fast because there's no extra features vs Samsung

I want pure Android preferably without even GMS.

 

[Technarchy]

Maybe in another 2 or 3 years I can see vanilla android being a viable alternative to skinned android.

As it stands the Note line walks all over the pixel in terms of features and functionality.

Skinned is better, but not entirely without compromise.

 

[Michael Goff]

I want pure Android preferably without even GMS.

That normally doesn't work as well as with GMS because of how Google is doing Android these days.

 

[lowendlinux]

That normally doesn't work as well as with GMS because of how Google is doing Android these days.

I've had phones and tablets on Lollipop, Marshmallow, and Nougat with and without GMS and they were always faster without GMS. When when the Oreo ROM I've been waiting on finally releases I'll spend a couple days without GMS then clean flash and so a base install of GMS.

You can work around quite a few things like google sign in with the correct stuff off of F-droid but things like pay can't work without GMS. I'm also interested in seeing if the Google Fi magic works without GMS that's let me know basically how it runs though I'm inclined to think it won't without GMS.

 

[Michael Goff]

I've had phones and tablets on Lollipop, Marshmallow, and Nougat with and without GMS and they were always faster without GMS. When when the Oreo ROM I've been waiting on finally releases I'll spend a couple days without GMS then clean flash and so a base install of GMS.

You can work around quite a few things like google sign in with the correct stuff off of F-droid but things like pay can't work without GMS. I'm also interested in seeing if the Google Fi magic works without GMS that's let me know basically how it runs though I'm inclined to think it won't without GMS.

What do these ROM makers use to replace the API that are part of it?

 

[lowendlinux]

What do these ROM makers use to replace the API that are part of it?

The ROM makers don't worry about Fi much because it's a Nexus only thing but the two big, stable, Nexus first ROM's tend to include it (Pure Nexus, and Resurrection Remix)

If you're talking about stuff like google sign in there's a couple on F-Droid that built framework I'll look through the list and see if I can remember which one was the last I used. I used it because I can't remember all my forum passwords and so I rely on tapatalk to remember them and I sign into tapatalk via my google ID