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Will Apple take a jab at the Note 7 recall?

  • No, and they shouldn't

    Votes: 82 82.8%
  • No, but they should

    Votes: 3 3.0%
  • Yes, but they shouldn't

    Votes: 5 5.1%
  • Yes, and they should

    Votes: 9 9.1%

  • Total voters
    99

AppleFan91

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So we all know Samsung loves taking shots at Apple, whether it's through their ads and calling users "wall-huggers" or by bragging about keeping the headphone jack before the iPhone 7 officially removes it. Well now the shoe is on the other foot and Samsung has a global recall on their hands. How will Apple respond next week in the keynote, or should they take the high road?
 

NT1440

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There might be a quip from someone, but given how scripted and controlled the keynotes are this would be extremely off script and probably piss off the execs at Apple.

So, I doubt it.
 

KirekkusuPT

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There might be a quip from someone, but given how scripted and controlled the keynotes are this would be extremely off script and probably piss off the execs at Apple.

So, I doubt it.

Probably talking about the FBI case back in March was also not in the plans, and people discussed if they would do it or not, and they did.

Also, it's not strange to Apple to fire shots to competitors, I still remember Keynotes from Steve Jobs back in the time where Macbooks where a thing, and the shots he fired at Windows Vista.

So yeah, I think they could capitalize on this somewhere, with a small phrase or something. Probably if they are discussing the new iPhone's battery they can always say something like "The new iPhone has 10 hours of battery life, and it won't burn on your pocket!".
 
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NT1440

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Probably talking about the FBI case back in March was also not in the plans, and people discussed if they would do it or not, and they did.
If I remember correctly they had a slide or two...meaning that it was definitely on the agenda. Added way late (as the keynotes are scripted weeks in advance) but planned on being there nonetheless.

Frankly I'd say poking Samsung would be a cheap shot, you don't punch down.
 

AppleFan91

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If I remember correctly they had a slide or two...meaning that it was definitely on the agenda. Added way late (as the keynotes are scripted weeks in advance) but planned on being there nonetheless.

Frankly I'd say poking Samsung would be a cheap shot, you don't punch down.

Nice, I like it.
[doublepost=1472834189][/doublepost]Honestly, I'm surprised at the results so far. I kind of expected people to want them to take a cheap shot. I myself would like to see Apple take the high road here and let the products (and the sales) do the talking.
 
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Sparkymoto

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Apple has had this battery issue for years. My brother in laws's battery on his ip5 just expanded and burned. All phones have this problem.
 

Sparkymoto

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If anything, the way Samsung is handling it, I think it will gain them more confidence from consumers about quality control. They are offering replacements within 2 weeks for everyone including the areas not affected by the bad battery batch.
 
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joeblow7777

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I say no and they should not.

The same could happen to any phone maker, even Apple.

It is going to cost them billions, that should be enough!

Exactly. This could have happened to Apple just as easily. Also, I don't know if anyone has actually been hurt by an exploding Note 7, but someone could be. I think Apple is smart enough to know that this isn't something that you take pot shots at.
 
Apple typically doesn't state what has already been blatantly stated. They also shouldn't poke fun at another company who ran into the same issues they have. If they bring it up, it's because they will say something about how "they" are still learning how to make phones, which will make people assume that Apple fixed the exploding battery issue, even if they haven't.

There is a captilization technique they could use that scares people away from Android, but I've yet to see Apple be like that. Instead they focus on how iPhone is a much better experience.

Based on a training course I had to take, successful companies focus more in one of three areas.

Product (performance, design, and experience)
Customer Support
or Financials.

All three are important and a company would fail if they neglected any of these areas, so just because I associate a company with a specific area, it's just the area the company's primary focus is geared towards.

Apple is a company that is more concerned with the product. Sprint excels in customer support above any other carrier. Samsung focuses in on the financials.

Here are the facts to support my cause.
Apple has always tried to make the experience better, they hardly ever talk about their customer support, and the give a brief synopsis of their financials during the keynote. They developed the iPhone, the iPad, continuity between devices, seamlessly integrating MMS with a chat client, keeping all of their designs minimal so the focus is on the work, not the computer, and keeping the software in sync with the hardware and vice versa.

Sprint's reception map sucks, they know this, but in order to develop their customer base, they have to provide great support, and they do, it's way better than Verizon or AT&T.

Samsung is more worried about financials, not only do they make Phones, tablets, watches, VR, headphones, Samsung pay, TVs, home theater setups, wireless speakers, stereos, TV receivers, laptops (windows and chromebooks), printers, monitors, memory, hard drives, ssds, refrigerators, ranges, microwaves, dishwashers, dryers, vacuums, and other IoT stuff. Good God that is a lot of stuff. They are more concerned with just getting a high volume of products out in 20 different versions hoping that people will buy at least one, not really focusing in on how good it works now or over time. Unfortunately they cut back in financing for each of these products so they can have all these different versions and areas, which is why the products really don't turn out too hot. Samsung is good at a few things, but based on demand, you can tell where the money is going. TVs and memory used to be their big sellers, now it's SSDs and mobile devices.

I know I went off on a tangent, but it shows how much Apple cares about keeping the image of their products clean, they know if they tarnish their name by acting like Samsung, there wouldn't be a company. People buy Apple because people have faith that Apple will give them the better connected experience.
 

Armen

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So we all know Samsung loves taking shots at Apple, whether it's through their ads and calling users "wall-huggers" or by bragging about keeping the headphone jack before the iPhone 7 officially removes it. Well now the shoe is on the other foot and Samsung has a global recall on their hands. How will Apple respond next week in the keynote, or should they take the high road?

Apple focuses on selling it's products not knocking the other guy.
 
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geoff5093

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They shouldn't, because with #AntennaGate and #BendGate, Apple has not had a perfect record either. At least Samsung is acknowledging the problem and doing something about it, Apple did not in both those cases (giving you a free bumper is not a solution).
Apple focuses on selling it's products not knocking the other guy.
Is that why they always bring up Android and their adoption numbers? Or compare sales and number of apps to the Android Play Store?
 
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Elisha

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Samsung has been handling this rather well. I wasn't expecting such a quick reaction from them.
Apple would probably deny until sued if this were an issue with the iPhones!
 
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tubeexperience

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Huawei should do a commercial with a man talking on his Samsung Galaxy when it exploded in his face.

His fiancée wasn't able to call 911 because her iPhone has the touch disease so he died. :D
 
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Abazigal

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They could, but I would rather Apple not. Apple is no longer the scrappy underdog and it needs to stop acting like one as well.

Sending cheap and insensitive jabs is just unbecoming of Apple these days.
 

HEK

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They shouldn't, because with #AntennaGate and #BendGate, Apple has not had a perfect record either. At least Samsung is acknowledging the problem and doing something about it, Apple did not in both those cases (giving you a free bumper is not a solution).
Is that why they always bring up Android and their adoption numbers? Or compare sales and number of apps to the Android Play Store?
Those are valid business comparisons. Sales performance against competitors and larger number of available apps are selling points.
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Samsung has been handling this rather well. I wasn't expecting such a quick reaction from them.
Apple would probably deny until sued if this were an issue with the iPhones!
Samsung is handling this safety failure the minimum way it should. Their track record on burning washing machines is far more dismal, as denial and cheap plastic bag fix they tried to foist on consumers was totally inadequate.

As for Apple, other than your bias against them, I see no reason to make your assumption that they wouldn't act responsibly. In fact the recent iOS 9.4.5 release a couple weeks after finding out about the zero day attacks demonstrates an impressive response which could easily been postponed for the iOS 10 release.
 
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Channan

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I can see it either way. Apple is known for picking at Android and Android devices to get a laugh, so they might.
 

BeeGood

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Exactly. This could have happened to Apple just as easily. Also, I don't know if anyone has actually been hurt by an exploding Note 7, but someone could be. I think Apple is smart enough to know that this isn't something that you take pot shots at.

I had voted "yes but they shouldn't", thinking that Apple might slip some small joke into the keynote, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and change to "no but they shouldn't".

Apple really needs to stay away from this. It's less about "taking the high road" and more about "resisting the urge to throw stones in a glass house".
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Samsung has been handling this rather well. I wasn't expecting such a quick reaction from them.
Apple would probably deny until sued if this were an issue with the iPhones!

In fairness, there is a world of difference between handling a phone that might bend, and handling a phone that might explode.
 

Mr.C

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Personally I don't think they should and they won't. I think they should focus purely on the positives of their own products rather then the negative aspects of their competitor's products.

Besides as has already been mentioned Apple has had their own product issues in the past and it would be hypocritical of them to take a jab at Samsung.
 
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