Not as far as I'm aware, and really - I wouldn't want to. They run warm enough under load as it is.
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will duo core become obsolete?
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Not as far as I'm aware, and really - I wouldn't want to. They run warm enough under load as it is.
really ?so there is if its only software settings no need to buy a faster processor just overclock the slower one and you get the same result
Yes. Processors are sold in batch ratings. They take samples, test how high they will stably clock and thats what they rate the rest of them at. They are all the same, the difference is the clock settings.
Some processors get lucky and have higher quality than the sample so it will clock much faster than its rating (The Pentium II was famous for this). Some are only stable at their rating. Its a gamble.
Since the i7 can dynamically clock to significantly higher speeds right out of the box (turboboost), that should show you their speeds are not hardware set like older processors. Even the CoreDuo and Core2Duo can do this through bios and EFI settings.
Yes. Older ones were done through hardware modification. My Mac Classic went from 8 to 16mhz, LCIII from 25mhz to 33mhz, PowerMac G3 from 300 to 400 and my Mini from 1.42 to 1.5ghz. The G5 can't be overclocked, I've tried.
New ones are done through software, mostly on the windows side.
No, eventually it's going to be obsolete when apple moves to stem cell processors
...which you will be able to grow into any processor du jour.
I'm assuming you speak of Core 2 Duo, Core Duo is already obsolete because it doesn't support 64-bit IMO. I believe C2D will be great for a good few more years, high end C2D may even be faster than i5, but I'm no expert.
ok ok but we should stay calm neither the core duo or core 2 duo will be really obsolete , you will still be able to use them in 10 years time , maybe not for the newest operating systems in 10 years , but i know you can still use a computer if its 10 years old , i have a power mac 5500/275 build in 1997 and i can do office work with it i can surf the www , i can play itunes , and because this powermac came from apple with tv card i still use it as a tv too , so its far away from beeing obsolete
a system gets obsolete for YOU if you cant run the software you need in the speeds you need , otherwise its still useable for common computing
a system gets obsolete for YOU if you cant run the software you need in the speeds you need , otherwise its still useable for common computing
Luddite.
The PowerMac G4 is still a capable machine for some things, but Quadra 840av? You can't run OS X on it, which means there isn't a single modern web browser available.
obsolete
adj. ancient, archaic; no longer in use, outdated; disappearing; useless
i know what it means but i use a emac from 2006 and because i still use it it is not obsolete , i also use a powermac 5500/275mhz every day , so this one is from 1997 and as i still have use for it it is not obsolete, as both are still in daily use same for my imac g3's from 2001 ,they are not obsolete, they may be old but not obsolete
. i get a blade centre from ibm which comes with Four 64bit 4.2 GHz POWER6 and 64GB ram from a company i worked for as they upgrade to power7 systems , ok i need to run linux then, but hey its not my fault apple does not make osx open source
The original Core Duo chips that came out when Apple went Intel are the most likely to be obsolete, since they didn't support 64 bit. But the Core Duo 2 has a better life. Number of cores are somewhat limited now, but still mainstream. And it supports 64 bit apps, which makes the biggest limitations for older chipsets the maximum RAM.
again, explain what is so special about 64 bit that makes not having it=obsolete
and why is 64bit the end all be all in terms of being obsolete or not?
Working with future programs. Like 16-bit CPUs, developers won't support 32-bit forever.
64-bit is what we'll be using for several decades. It can access more RAM than there is currently in data on earth.
Well it really depends what you want to do with it doesn't it? If your doing really serious stuff it might be obsolete in 3 years, though if all you do on your Mac is light browsing it might take 6 years before you "need" a new one
There is nothing, absolutely nothing, you can do on a i5 and can't on a C2D.
It's only a matter of performance, and the difference is measured in seconds and, at worst, minutes.
That means that yes, in 3-4 years a C2D will be obsolete, but the same is for an i5.
Don't trust on the "all-about-specs" guys that live in forum like this: they are people witha real passion for computers, and they make you think that if you don't have the latest top-notch hardware, you are doomed
this is not exactly true in the real life
BTW I can understand that in 2010 a C2D it's not so attractive
It's only a matter of performance, and the difference is measured in seconds and, at worst, minutes.
That means that yes, in 3-4 years a C2D will be obsolete, but the same is for an i5.
Don't trust on the "all-about-specs" guys that live in forum like this: they are people witha real passion for computers, and they make you think that if you don't have the latest top-notch hardware, you are doomed
this is not exactly true in the real life
BTW I can understand that in 2010 a C2D it's not so attractive
i agree
but hey i work on a eMac which has a G4 1.42processor amd superdrive, and it runs all programs i need !and it did cost me a whopping £142 !!!and £15 for virtualpc with xp , £8 for microsoft office2004 for mac
ok you could argue that with a brandnew iMac i7 i would safe several seconds on each task , but first i do not earn money with ,i do not play games on it ,apart from some online games
so i cant say it would pay for itself after a couple weeks ,and i cant say games would run better/faster ,
so in my environment the imac i7 would possibly pay for itself too , but it would need at least 10 years to remotely justify the cost of £1797 , plus licence for windows plus microsoft office
so maybe i would buy at one point a newer mac if i get forced to, but that would then be the 21.5 with a core2duo , but need to buy a lower desk too if i want to place a keyboard in front of the mac , as its about 3 inch to high to place the 21.5 under the sloping roof of my room(tested it as a mate has one ,it fits but will have no room at the exit vent so overheating is more then likely)
but hey i work on a eMac which has a G4 1.42processor amd superdrive, and it runs all programs i need !and it did cost me a whopping £142 !!!and £15 for virtualpc with xp , £8 for microsoft office2004 for mac
ok you could argue that with a brandnew iMac i7 i would safe several seconds on each task , but first i do not earn money with ,i do not play games on it ,apart from some online games
so i cant say it would pay for itself after a couple weeks ,and i cant say games would run better/faster ,
so in my environment the imac i7 would possibly pay for itself too , but it would need at least 10 years to remotely justify the cost of £1797 , plus licence for windows plus microsoft office
so maybe i would buy at one point a newer mac if i get forced to, but that would then be the 21.5 with a core2duo , but need to buy a lower desk too if i want to place a keyboard in front of the mac , as its about 3 inch to high to place the 21.5 under the sloping roof of my room(tested it as a mate has one ,it fits but will have no room at the exit vent so overheating is more then likely)
Ditto.
Speaking from someone who has an "obsolete" PowerMac dual G5, as Apple and Adobe have essentially stopped development for the chip, it sucks to be out-of-date. I'd like to get an Intel desktop box (already have a MacBook Pro), but with problems plaguing iMacs, their inherently stupid glass screen and the Mac Pro's ridiculous pricing for what you get, I'm a bit lost.
It is a bizarre situation that we are in in this respect. I think that the new mac pros will address this price problem with the next iteration which should hopefully make it somewhat easier
by the time 32 bit machines are outdates, the current c2duos will be long past the leading edge of the bell curve
We can only hope, though the fact that they haven't dropped the price of the current models any since the quad iMac's have shipped is cause for concern IMO.
Highly likely that the whole iMac lineup will be Core iX for the summer anyway. Core 2 Duos won't be obsolete for a long time although I guess it depends on:
a) Your definition of obsolete.
b) What you use your computer for.
a) Your definition of obsolete.
b) What you use your computer for.
just make it simple
choose to buy the mac you can afford (its not worth going in dept for a computer )and can run all the programs you need and want
then you dont have to worry about obsolete or not
because if you worry so much about" if ""maybe" "when" or whatever apple decides to discontinue a processor line , you really have to constantly look on the apple website just in case you miss the newest mac on the market , and have your credit card ready just in case ....
and there will be very soon a revision of the imacs out on the market , making your maybe 2 month old imac obsolete (if you define obsolete strictly as no longer in production)
choose to buy the mac you can afford (its not worth going in dept for a computer )and can run all the programs you need and want
then you dont have to worry about obsolete or not
because if you worry so much about" if ""maybe" "when" or whatever apple decides to discontinue a processor line , you really have to constantly look on the apple website just in case you miss the newest mac on the market , and have your credit card ready just in case ....
and there will be very soon a revision of the imacs out on the market , making your maybe 2 month old imac obsolete (if you define obsolete strictly as no longer in production)
This is very useful information. As I am looking into getting an iMac in the near future I am taking all this in. Seeing as I do not need a desktop at this moment since I have a capable mbp. I will be waiting for the updated iMacs to be released. I really don't need a huge screen size either. Thanks to original poster for posting this
core 2 duo's are essentially obsolete now. Intel is phasing out their production this year and ramping up the Core CPU production in their place. by early next year they will be the in the cheapest of the cheap PC's. this year they are in the "value" segment for HP and Dell. which means in the cheap models but not the absolute cheapest models