Ok, I use Battery Health 3.
The battery is 4,6 years old with 1027 cycles on it.
On cycle 854 is was down to 79% capacity.
Then it started to get better and capacity gradually increased up to 89% at best.
Now it's down to 79% again.
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Will I be happy with a New (used) 2017 MacBook Pro - No Touch Bar?
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The battery is 4,6 years old with 1027 cycles on it.
On cycle 854 is was down to 79% capacity.
Then it started to get better and capacity gradually increased up to 89% at best.
Now it's down to 79% again.
Here is what they both show, see attached. Also, I started using twice with full battery, switched user accounts and it just turned off. Seems that when it does anything intensive, such as booting or logging an a account, it just shuts down. Logging shows shut down as Loss of Power issue. I also added the shutdown logs. The 0 indicates power failure, the 5 indicates normal shutdown.
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So, I went to the apple store today and they ran a diagnostic that shows the battery is needing to be replaced. I was unfortunately past the 4 years to get the free Top Case. He did say the $199 replacement does include a top case, so that is good to know. That being said, I will decide if I use it as is, as it still works well, replace the battery myself, or just sell\trade it in. Thanks for all the help.
Looking at OWC selling a Newertech battery for 89 but vendors on e-bay claim to have Apple Geniune OEM batteries... Not sure if that's the case. I don't really mind replacing, but I ordered another machine as well, so if the new one works better I might just dump this machine, who knows, or keep them both.
So I just found something cool. Through e-bay you can buy a SquareTrade Warranty, for 1 year it's 41.99, and it says it covers non-serviceable batteries, which is what this machine has. It says you have to wait 30 days, ship the item in and they fix within 5 days. I wonder if they would allow the apple store to fix it (preferred) and just reimburse! Seems like a really good option here. You do have to wait 30 days after purchase to submit a claim.
OP:
If you're going to replace the battery, the best deal is to pay the $199 and have Apple do it.
This is particularly good because you get the new top case as part of the repair.
That means that you get a brand-new butterfly keyboard, which (as pointed out earlier) is the "central point of failure" in these laptops.
(go back and re-read reply 8 that I posted to you)
That $199 from the Apple Store sounds like a bargain to me.
If you're going to replace the battery, the best deal is to pay the $199 and have Apple do it.
This is particularly good because you get the new top case as part of the repair.
That means that you get a brand-new butterfly keyboard, which (as pointed out earlier) is the "central point of failure" in these laptops.
(go back and re-read reply 8 that I posted to you)
That $199 from the Apple Store sounds like a bargain to me.
Yah, i'm considering it. During all this I found another deal on the same machine, so I'm waiting for it to arrive. I might keep the new one if it's better and just sell this one or trade in etc.. I also like fixing stuff and My keyboard is pretty solid. I found a source for Apple OEM batteries. 199 is a good deal for what you get, but in reality, it seems like a scam still to me that you can't just replace the battery, makes no sense why they couldn't engineer a simple slot with a screw to hold down a battery to make it a simple removal. Seems that it's designed this way purposely to make money, force people to trade in. For example, this machine's trade in value is $305, but the battery replacement is 199? Some people will say, ok, new MacBook air, $999, why throw 199, when I can get a MacBook air brand new for 695 now. And I'm sure MANY people just do the trade in.
Thought I got REALLY lucky, got my second machine for 200 on e-bay, booted to diagnostic, then restarted and it booted to Catalina. I Formated drive, re-installed Catalina then started to upgrade to 12.3 Monterey, and it died. SSD won't detect. So I swapped SSD's and sure enough the new one I got has a bad SSD, but a Really good battery! So my original with bad battery is up for a decision, buy SSD and Battery, or dump it. I can buy another 128gb SSD from E-bay for like 32 bucks and try the battery replacement and I've got 2 pretty nice machines for average cost like 250-260 each. The nice thing with the second one I got, it has original box and charger and papers and such but only 8GB ram, where the bad battery unit has 16gb RAM.
Anyhow, this has been a fun adventure
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Anyhow, this has been a fun adventure
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So this is bazaar, I thought to give this drive one more chance, before replacing. I never did a SMC reset. So I did the reset, and NVRAM reset, restarted, and it went right back to finishing the Monterey install! I' m on the machine now using it and it's working perfect. I don't get it. I did a First aid and said no errors. I'm a bit afraid to turn it off!
Well, didn't last, as I thought, this morning, machine was very hot, and got the File Folder with "?" mark. SSD must be shot. Ordering a new one today. Was worth a shot!