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I prefer the design of Lightning.

I much prefer that it’s a male ended cable, going into a simple female port.

Having said that, other than for CarPlay in my car, I can’t remember the last time I plugged in to charge.

Now, I like that USB C is becoming the standard, it will make life easier going forward.

But…

I don’t like the kind of male, but not full male connection of a USB C ended cable, because it still that female section inside the connector, that then has to be slotted into a female connection port, that has a male connector.

I would much rather that Apple had decided to match USB C’s specs for Lightning and given the design away, so that could be the standard going forward.

That me be a bit nostalgic &/or selfish (I charge on a slow MagSafe charging stand overnight), but for the design reason I gave, I prefer Lightning.
Great points made about the engineering aspect.

I would love to charge wirelessly. However, I’m too addicted to fast charging.

Only use 40-65watt chargers around the house and love that I can plug the phone in - shower or do something for 10-20min and get a big chunk of juice back into the phone.
 
All the USB-C port failures I have come across on Youtube were caused by negligence on the users part. An example, dropping a device while connected via USB-C cable. Same with HDMI ports I might add.
Of coarse a possibility. My current MacBook Air M1 requires the occasional SMC tweak to restore one of its USB-C port's
function.
 
This is one of the reasons I don't understand why people are so hellbent on switching to USB-C. Lightning is a solid, firm connection. I can easily hang my phone or iPad from a lightning cable with no issue. Every USB-C device I have, including current Macs, has loose ports. Luckily, I haven't had any connection issues other than on a Dell laptop.
I’ve had the lightning port fail on two iPhones now (both refurbished 8+ models). I don’t know if it’s the refurb aspect, or something specific to 8+, or what.
 
Mine are a tiny bit looser on my iPad pro but the main thing is I have more scuff marks around the port on the ipad as its not so easy to plug in when in a hurry or if the lighting a bit dim. Nothing major but with a titanium band a a first year coating, yeah I am waiting a few years as my iPhone is perfectly okay and a pot is no reason to update, I need a new Mac this year and I will ditch my iPad Pro as I just don't use it enough, and a new laptop like an air will be be bestthe best of both worlds, i"ll miss my 27" iMac but I wont buy a M1 iMac with a two year old CPU at full price and with a hardware flaw too.
 
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You can do that with USB-C equipped phones and tables. Why on earth you'd want to do that is anyone's guess...
You want to do that when your wired iPhone is charging in the car and falls between the seats. No biggie with Lightning as you just pull the phone and the cable up and out - USB-C will probably fail and fall back in there requiring you to park the car and try to slither your hand hopefully into the crevasse.


I’d say 80% USB-C are a not as secure as Lightning. But I will admit I have one braided USB-C cable is too tight making you worry that you will wreck the port by wrenching it out.
 
As is USB-C.


Opposite for me. None of my USB-C devices have loose ports...


You can do that with USB-C equipped phones and tables. Why on earth you'd want to do that is anyone's guess...
I guess I’m just unlucky and get all the defective ports on my devices. 🙄

It takes little force to disconnect USB-C compared to lightning. And not that you’d necessarily want to do it, but it has saved me at least once when accidentally knocking my phone off my desk. It stayed attached and hung there. If it had been USB-C, it probably would’ve hit the floor.
 
I guess I’m just unlucky and get all the defective ports on my devices. 🙄

It takes little force to disconnect USB-C compared to lightning. And not that you’d necessarily want to do it, but it has saved me at least once when accidentally knocking my phone off my desk. It stayed attached and hung there. If it had been USB-C, it probably would’ve hit the floor.
I have tripped over the cord on my MacBook Pro so many times and dragged the damn thing over a meter each time and the USB-C cable has never detached. I actually miss MagSafe on my MacBook, but I won't be buying another one, so I will make do until I'm done with this one. I caught my Samsung S21 Ultra mid fall by the cable a few times as it fell from my bed and that held up too.
 
You want to do that when your wired iPhone is charging in the car and falls between the seats. No biggie with Lightning as you just pull the phone and the cable up and out - USB-C will probably fail and fall back in there requiring you to park the car and try to slither your hand hopefully into the crevasse.
Perhaps the lightning cable is better for your niche example...though I'm still not seeing the upside of lightning over USB C...

Each to their own. Personally I'm happy lightning will be gone and USB C will be the defacto moving forward. Should have happened several years ago...
 
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I guess I’m just unlucky and get all the defective ports on my devices. 🙄
Honestly it reads like a "you" issue.

I find it hard to believe (as you put it) "Every USB-C device I have, including current Macs, has loose ports".

All of my USB-C and lightning equipped devices (from iphone SE made in 2016, my work iphone SE 2022 manufactured this year, to my Dell laptop manufactured in 2018, to my XM5 headphones and several other devices) have some amount of "play" and movement between the cable and the device.

That being said, the cables (whether it be USB-C or lightning) are secure within the device, and will not just fall out without some degree of force being applied.

Perhaps your expectations are just unrealistically high, and what you deem is "loose" is "normal" to others?
 
Honestly it reads like a "you" issue.

I find it hard to believe (as you put it) "Every USB-C device I have, including current Macs, has loose ports".

All of my USB-C and lightning equipped devices (from iphone SE made in 2016, my work iphone SE 2022 manufactured this year, to my Dell laptop manufactured in 2018, to my XM5 headphones and several other devices) have some amount of "play" and movement between the cable and the device.

That being said, the cables (whether it be USB-C or lightning) are secure within the device, and will not just fall out without some degree of force being applied.

Perhaps your expectations are just unrealistically high, and what you deem is "loose" is "normal" to others?
Yes, I’m sure it’s because we have varying definitions of loose. In my mind, if there is any play, it’s loose. It’s not a snug connection. I’m not saying it’s so loose to the point of just falling out on its own, but it’s not at all a snug connection like lightning. A slight tug is all that’s required to remove it in most instances.

Think about it more like a mains electrical connection. Do you want it snug, or do you want it to wiggle? Anti-MagSafe, if you will.
 
I've had the concern when the USB-C port arrived on both Macbooks and iPads. My 2018 iPad Pro is now going on four years old, I charge it every night, and I've used the port for other things too.Happy to report that the port is still tight without any issues, same goes for my M1 Macbook Air that's two years and a bit old now (time flies right?).

I've also had a 2017 MBP and there were no issues with the ports, they did become a bit loose, but not so the cable fell out. That seems to have been sorted on the later devices.

With the iPhone it will be even less of a concern for me since I more or less always charge wirelessly, so the port is rarely used (Carplay basically).

It's a good switch in general I think, Lightning was a fantastic connector when it came out and served us well for over a decade.
 
I think what Apple needs to do first is change their lightning cable material to a more stronger material.

Been changing the Apple lightning charging cables about 3 times per every 6 months now due to tearing…These cables are a joke.
 
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