It sounds like it’s the same chip as the Air. So again entry level. Just as expected.
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Will M1x have a TDP of 35-54W?
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It sounds like it’s the same chip as the Air. So again entry level. Just as expected.
Booo! Not Boom!
I was really hoping to see a 32" iMac with a discreet GPU that would equal a Nvidia GeForce RTX 3090 or AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT
I love the industrial design of the $1,299 iMac USB-C only and I am glad that the $1,499 imac includes both USB-C and USB-A ports.
That’s the impression so far.
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This fall or maybe next year
Although I’m not so sure about 3090 performance levels…At any rate the entry level iMac looks amazing. The GPU is likely higher clocked than in the mini.
A well thinking forward design...lets not forget that this deisng is here to stay for at least 4-5 years...
And i bet the M1 works even without a fan...but i bet the two fans from the chin is cleary meant for the future where the next gen M2 or M3 will be need a better cooling...so this is Apple making profit margins
And i bet the M1 works even without a fan...but i bet the two fans from the chin is cleary meant for the future where the next gen M2 or M3 will be need a better cooling...so this is Apple making profit margins
Yup looks like standard M1, might be tweaked with clocks of course. I'm starting to wonder if we might not see larger M-series variants in production until M2. I've no doubt Apple has larger M1s internally, but they'd have be launched soon or they'll butt-up against M2.
I like
- Redesign arrived 12 months earlier than I was expecting
- I love the diversity of color but that adds to cost in a world where desktops make up 1 out of 4 computers sold.
- Now uses Apple Silicon
- Uses far less materials than previous iMac
- In terms of volume it is said to be 50% less than the last iMac's design
- This does not perform at par with a Threadripper, Nvidia GeForce RTX 3090 or AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT
- M1 chip from 2020? Really?
- USB-C ports are not all Thunderbolt
- Bezle is rather thick for 2021
- Webcam isn't using the back camera of the iPhone 12
- Good bye memory card slot
- Good bye USB-A and Ethernet port for ₱1,299 base model. It's there for the $1,499 & up model
- 8GB of RAM at that price... really?
- Power brick... really?
- Ethernet port on the Power brick.... really?
- Magsafe for the iMac... really? The MagSafe we want is on the Macbook! Not the iPhone or iMac!!
- I'm on a 27" and want the 32" 6K model with a beefier Apple Silicon chip
- No more Apple logo at the center chin... how can I remind myself I spent more for less?
I think we’ll see something. They haven’t announced any ”high end” stuff yet - even this iMac is lower-end. The big iMacs, big MBPs, etc. will presumably be beefed up, at least in terms of memory bandwidth and I/O bandwidth, and probably GPU too. I suspect that the hold up is that there is a dedicated GPU design that goes in those (at least as an option), and once that’s ready we will see a new M1 design to go with it (potentially without GPU cores on the CPU SoC, and replacing them with some more CPU cores)
It looks like they're sticking with entry level for now. Though I'm not sure that the back of the iPhone 12 is what they should be using, but rather the new iPad Pro front camera ...
I think, as always with the iMac, the major thing you're paying for is the screen. Even a cheap UHD display is going to a couple hundred dollars and this is not a cheap display, more pixels than UHD, Wide color, True tone. Add a base mac mini price.
I gotta admit, a touch odd here, but if you're going to add a power brick to the iMac, then ethernet over it works, and a magnetic connection is a nice touch if less necessary than for laptops (which I agree, definitely want that back!)
Oh I agree I'm just no longer as certain that the high end will be with firestorm/icestorm cores. Maybe it will. They still have time to launch such systems - after all M2s probably won't launch until November. However, the window where it wouldn't feel weird is closing - like getting higher core M1 Macs in say September which 3 months later are upended by M2s which with a new design and better process node will be faster per core. If they don't announce those systems at WWDC in June, then I'd have to guess Apple is just waiting on M2 designs to launch higher end systems.
I was expecting..... POOOOOOWERRRRRRRRRRRRR.
They just put the logicboard of the Mac mini into this 1.15cm thick monstrosity.
I think they will be firestorm/ice storm. They already did the work, may as well leverage it (since it will still destroy comparable Intel parts at equivalent TDP), and this way they can up the ante again next year (I don’t know that M2s are coming at the end of this year - I suspect next year.)
I do think that the MBP 16”, 27” iMac, etc. get announced at WWDC.
It’s all just kremlinology, though.
Yeah it really depends on how they view their Mac chip upgrade cycle. I'm going off of it being yearly like the phone, but that might not be the case. In which case later releases will still work.
Yeah I was kinda hoping for MOAR CORES myself, but this is a fine entry level machine. Hopefully we'll get to see the bigger siblings soon.
Supply chain's gonna really leverage economies of scale if they'll use standardized M1 chips of just 2 binned parts.
Power adapter's rated at 143W. Assuming an efficiency of 80% then it's peak power consumption is about 114.4W.
I think they’ll get into a yearly cycle, but that they can delay the start of that a bit because they haven’t yet ported everything over - most of their products are still Intel. So the end of this year can be same cores, but more of them and support for a discrete GPU, more RAM, more I/O, and that’s a huge bump. Maybe by then they offer a slight speed bump on the already-M1’d devices. I expect that in 2022 we see a new core design, and then we’re off to the races.
Of course, there remains a question about iphone - does this year’s a-series processor have firestorm/ice storm? Something new? Do they diverge? Does A-series lead or lag? Or do they just put M1 in iphone pro’s this year?
My guess is that if they go that route, then the iPhones A-series will be leading, then the cores will percolate up the bigger M-series chips and the cheaper, non-Pro iPads will either get A-series chips or old M-series depending.
Through Apple? Or selling direct on eBay? I've got a 2013. I wonder what I could get for it.
Why? It was fairly obvious that they are rolling out entry-level Macs first. This iMac looks like an ideal premium home computer.
There was of course a slight hope for a faster M1 variant, but let's be honest. With the chip shortages and limited production capabilities they simply can't move forward as fast as we'd want to. A strong, "regular user"-oriented bottom line makes perfect sense.
Kind of doubt that M1 can scale up that much. Also, I was hoping that the GPU would be overclocked compared to other M1 machines, but it doesn't look this way. Apple says "up to 2x faster than the predecessor", which means compared to Radeon 555X... So that still translates to 2.6TFLOPS for the M1 GPU, same as other models.
I can sympathize with him. This is of course unfair to Apple. But even beyond what kind of device I might want for myself, I'm just super curious about how they'll push their chips forward and really just want to see the future already. Right now!
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Agreed. There's margin in the power adapter for:
- Power over the USB-C ports
- The display
The display can be pretty power hungry. My 38" is 85W typical, and I wouldn't be surprised if the 24" iMac is around 40W depending on brightness settings. If I assume a guarantee of 5W per port, that's another 20W, and the Mac mini draws around 39W peak from the wall. So I could easily see an adapter built to handle around 100+W peaks wanted for this.
Having more buffer also keeps the power brick in the more efficient zone on top of that.