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Will Mac OS X work on any intel motherboard?
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How can others interpret it any differently? They are the same people who can't distinguish between illegal immigrants and legal immigrants then call us Nazi's for wanting to send them packing.
Thats just ignorance on your part. The tag is illegal to remove by the retailer, as its there to inform the purchaser of materials used.
Ignorance of the law is not justification to break the law. Putting your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes and saying "LALALALALALALALALALA" doesn't alter reality one bit.
For the last time....
Apple only sells full OEM non transferable licenses of Mac OS X with a brand new Apple computer. All retail copies of Mac OS X are either upgrade copies from 10.5, or upgrade for the copy of Mac OS X that came with their hardware.
Apple does not sell retail full license copies of Mac OS X. You cannot buy a licensed full copy of the OS from a store.
The post you're replying to is more than three years old. Only Snow Leopard is an upgrade anyway, nowhere in Leopard's EULA does it mention that it is an upgrade and the system requirements require a compatible computer not a pre-existing installation. Whether the EULA is legally binding is debatable in many countries but it is definitely not legally binding in others whether you want it to be so or not.
It says quite clearly in the EULA that it is an upgrade for an Apple branded computer.
Windows is quite commonly sold the same way. You get an OEM copy on your computer, that is non transferable (and enforced with activation, I might add), and then through the OEM you can upgrade that copy to a later version, again, only for that computer.
Microsoft does offer full retail versions of their operating system, and that is their choice. However, OS X is OEM only.
No. It doesn't.
Snow Leopard's EULA does in regards to the Leopard Upgrade but Leopard (which was never sold as an upgrade) does not. I think you're getting confused between the two EULAs since only the Snow Leopard one mentions 'Apple branded computers' whereas the Leopard one mentions 'Apple labelled computers'.
Not every motherboard is compatible, i.e., run OSX. For instance, I have an Asus P6T motherboard and while technically possible to run 10.6, its really too much of a hassle. I found that I can get great performance, and stability with running OSX within vmware.
Some Motherboards can run OSX without tweaking, or messing with kexts. Some require a bit more work and some just can work for one reason or another.
Some Motherboards can run OSX without tweaking, or messing with kexts. Some require a bit more work and some just can work for one reason or another.
"This License allows you to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time."
It's an upgrade for any Apple computer. The same is done with Windows. Dell will sell you a copy of Windows 7 if you have a Dell computer running Vista. The copy of Windows 7 is only licensed for Dell computers. In fact, this is enforced by activation.
Apple does not sell full retail copies for any computer.
The only part of that I see that is extremely questionably enforceable is the part about not being able to use Mac OS X to crack OS X. Otherwise, it looks like an industry standard OEM license.
buy someone's large Apple sticker and slap it on your machine bam it now has an Apple label and as such is Apple labeled!
Someone could locate a derelict G5 or newer for example, gut the case, and use it to build a system from.
Should look much better than a sticker.
Someone could locate a derelict G5 or newer for example, gut the case, and use it to build a system from.
Should look much better than a sticker.
dead power mac G5, not worth replacing the motherboard and power supply, so I removed the bad parts and installed a newer MB and PS.
dead power mac G5, not worth replacing the motherboard and power supply, so I removed the bad parts and installed a newer MB and PS.
pretty awesome looking, plus it's Apple branded
?? I don't understand, your quote proves my point. The EULA doesn't mention anything about an upgrade. The only EULA that does is Snow Leopard's since that was specifically sold as an upgrade. Read what you're quoting. Saying it isn't so doesn't make it so. The only OS in recent years sold by Apple as an upgrade is Snow Leopard. That's why it mentions upgrading from Leopard specifically in Snow Leopard's EULA.
Someone could locate a derelict G5 or newer for example, gut the case, and use it to build a system from.
Should look much better than a sticker.
That's one way to get around the EULA. Hell, if you have the original install disks then even those falsely claiming that all OS licenses are upgrade licenses couldn't get past that. Of course, that's if the EULA is even valid in your country.
but its easy...
dead power mac G5, not worth replacing the motherboard and power supply, so I removed the bad parts and installed a newer MB and PS.
wish i had a spare case when i built mine.
I would of bought a new MacPro if apple had of updated the Mac Pro 1,1 EFI... I no longer trust them enough to drop close to 5kAUD on a computer.
So I made a "Hack Pro"... Closest thing to what suits my needs(mac pro).
As per the EULA's validity, it's not been challenged on the actual language here in the US from what I recall of the Psystar mess (i.e. reviewed point per point). So no way to really know what would/wouldn't hold up, and IMO, software vendors don't want their EULA's in that position anyway and will fight such a suit tooth and nail.
As per the EULA's validity, it's not been challenged on the actual language here in the US from what I recall of the Psystar mess (i.e. reviewed point per point). So no way to really know what would/wouldn't hold up, and IMO, software vendors don't want their EULA's in that position anyway and will fight such a suit tooth and nail.
I'd guess Apple would rather not take people to court for violating the EULA in the US unless they're the likes of Psystar who were trying to make money off of it. The number of people that actually bother building hackintoshes are relatively small and chances are they've actually increased profits for Apple long term. For one, a good proportion of them actually go out and buy licensed copies of OSX and for another a good number of them go on to purchase one or more genuine Mac laptops later on. If you look through the Insanelymac forums a very large number of hackintosh users also have genuine Mac laptops. I remember trying out the Tiger Transitional Development Kit years ago. Back then things like graphics acceleration didn't work etc but the overall experience and the taste of things acted as a serious catalyst to me switching to OSX. Apple has since received many many thousands of dollars worth of cash from me and from loads of people that I've convinced to switch to Mac.
Even in the case of Psystar, the EULA wasn't evaluated over it's actual language IIRC (Copyright infringement, not contract language). They primarily got nailed for using a cloned copy of a single license.
But as PearC isn't in the US, and is in a country that doesn't acknowledge the EULA as valid, they haven't been able to touch them.
Exactly.
And that's held true for other software products as well (i.e. students/enthusiasts using professional software licenses they didn't pay for), but went out and bought them once they had the funds, or were in positions that recommended or actually made the final decision of what was purchased. With such relationships lasting years, not just a single license one time.
Draconian EULA's, particularly when combined with some sort of DRM, can hurt future purchases for the above reason. If they don't get to use a vendor's software while learning, they're less likely to want to use it than something they're already familiar with using from what I've seen and heard over the years.
Most vendors that seem to realize this, offer inexpensive student versions (possibly cut down from the full professional versions), and free trials (usually contain time limits).
Exactly. Some companies get this. One that springs to mind is Intel. Their compilers cost an absolute fortune yet you can get the Linux compilers for free if you're a student and you can get the OSX and Windows licenses at a snip of the cost that the full versions cost. The student licenses are feature complete but cannot be used for commercial purposes. Because of this, I've now grown accustomed to the iFort compiler and have been able to urge the HPC guys in my department to purchase server licenses of these products.
