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Will nvidia bring out another Mac edition gpu card in the future?
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IMO, impossible, until there is any native Apple driver.
It's no way that they can sell a card which is not supported OOTB but still marketing as Mac Edition card.
Even worst, any OS update will make the card completely unusable (Yes, Mac EFI will provide basic screen, but that's not really usable) in about 24-48 hours (until Nvidia web driver available).
So, Nvidia willing to pay Apple for the license again. I don't think they will do it. Especially there is no (absolutely zero) current Mac that on the Apple Store can utilise such card. Then why border to create one?
If they focus on eGPU, then Mac EFI is not required at all. Even the Apple developer kit's RX580 is just a normal PC GPU.
It's no way that they can sell a card which is not supported OOTB but still marketing as Mac Edition card.
Even worst, any OS update will make the card completely unusable (Yes, Mac EFI will provide basic screen, but that's not really usable) in about 24-48 hours (until Nvidia web driver available).
So, Nvidia willing to pay Apple for the license again. I don't think they will do it. Especially there is no (absolutely zero) current Mac that on the Apple Store can utilise such card. Then why border to create one?
If they focus on eGPU, then Mac EFI is not required at all. Even the Apple developer kit's RX580 is just a normal PC GPU.
Er:
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/04/06/nvidia-titan-xp-gpu-mac-support/
NVIDIA have been regularly releasing "beta" Mac drivers for a long time, and released Sierra drivers for the current 10x0 series back in the spring. I was running a 1060 in a Hackintosh until recently...
(NB: are there still problems with boot screens on an actual Mac?)
But what i'm saying is...would they release another gpu card.
It seem egpu would be the way. When it comes down to using apps like premiere or something on the line...it would be great.
If there was a PCIe slot in an official Apple product (e.g. the new modular Mac Pro) then there's a chance EVGA would want to sell a Mac Edition of an NVIDIA card. NVIDIA themselves have never actually sold Mac Edition boards, it's always been through a 3rd party like EVGA, for reference.
My guess is that NVIDIA will keep providing non-official or beta drivers as they have done for a long time. If the eGPU enclosures don't need boot screens, then there's very little point in anyone (i.e. NVIDIA, EVGA etc) officially providing an EFI version of a card.
My guess is that NVIDIA will keep providing non-official or beta drivers as they have done for a long time. If the eGPU enclosures don't need boot screens, then there's very little point in anyone (i.e. NVIDIA, EVGA etc) officially providing an EFI version of a card.
But they do consider non-Kepler GPUs to be beta, which was my point. Specifically, NVIDIA will likely release a beta driver for Volta when consumer Volta cards are released, and I don't think there will be any way to get a card with an official EFI on it so that it's a Mac Edition card.
However, the supported product on that page does not include the Maxwell / Pascal cards.
So, I read this as "apart from the card in this list. We also provide beta support on other Nvidia GPUs, such as those inside iMac or MacBook Pro". Therefore, I personally will treat this driver is also just providing beta support for non-Kepler card as Asgorath stated.
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With eGPU implementation coming, the potential for even more Mac customers to use Nvidia is very high.
However, it won't change the fact that there is no native drive in MacOS. And it makes the graphic card manufacture almost impossible to marketing the card as Mac Edition card (because no OOTB support).
If anyone selling a card that marketing as Mac GPU, and the card is not OOTB, or even unusable after OS update (until web driver available). It will be a nightmare for their own CS team. So, I really don't know who will create a Mac EFI Nvidia card, and then sell it as a normal PC Card due to unable to marketing it as a Mac GPU.
I guess in USA, if selling a "Mac GPU" which is not OOTB, it may even be sued by the consumers.
I doubt it. From what I've read here and elsewhere, Apple was not amused (to put it politely) when nVidia tried to charge them almost retail prices for using their GPUs, in negotiations for the 2013 Mac Pro. So the motivation to integrate proper nVidia drivers again seems low.
CUDA being a proprietary thing doesn't help either.
CUDA being a proprietary thing doesn't help either.
I would be more interested in a Mac edition of an AMD card that has native drivers.
Also, don't forget that Apple is seriously mad at Nvidia for making a bold move on the self driving car and in-car entertainment, having the cake all for themselves.
^^^^That's not a factor in this business, IMO. How "MAD" is Apple at Samsung? But they sure give them lot's of business.
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Lou
i still think nvidia is just keeping a dev working on the apple drivers (maybe same dev as working on Linux drivers?) just in case it's worth sporting apple in the future if eGPU's become a main stream thing.
as all mac's made now support eGPU's and apples market is ok sized it's a solid bet to keep a single dev working on the code incase they ever need to move in to the market (or AMD dies and apple moves back to Nvidia).
it may also be a way to test out eGPU's encase they become big on the PC side to?
as all mac's made now support eGPU's and apples market is ok sized it's a solid bet to keep a single dev working on the code incase they ever need to move in to the market (or AMD dies and apple moves back to Nvidia
).it may also be a way to test out eGPU's encase they become big on the PC side to?
I thought that T-Bolt 3 was needed for eGPU support.i still think nvidia is just keeping a dev working on the apple drivers (maybe same dev as working on Linux drivers?) just in case it's worth sporting apple in the future if eGPU's become a main stream thing.
as all mac's made now support eGPU's and apples market is ok sized it's a solid bet to keep a single dev working on the code incase they ever need to move in to the market (or AMD dies and apple moves back to Nvidia
it may also be a way to test out eGPU's encase they become big on the PC side to?
The Mac Pro 6,1 is T-Bolt 2.
The Mac Mini is T-Bolt 2.
The MacBook Air is T-Bolt 2.
The MacBook has USB-C ports, but T-Bolt 3 is not mentioned in its specs.