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Well my point is that doesn't say Exclusively a Mac App Store download
it would still make sense to offer a dvd, for things like a failed hdd a recovery partition is not going to be much help, one thing i can be sure of is that macs will ship with restore disks i am 100% sure of that

Phill Shiller said, "only in the App Store."

And don't be so sure about that. Apple wants you to take your computer to them for HD replacements. Everything else, the recovery partition can accomplish.
 
"100% and there will never be a DVD available. For sure."

I wouldn't be so sure.


Apples many times stated the optical drive in a Macbook are becoming obsolete. I guess those will disappear in the near future too.

Mark my words ... no DVD for Lion anytime.

Thats Apple for you. Unpredictable and only looking ahead to the bright future.
 
The question I have then is in regard to restore discs on new macs. Will new macs come with snow leopard restore discs then. Surely you will still have the option to do a clean install of a new mac without having to purchase new snow leopard discs, to then install lion on top. Any thoughts?
 
The question I have then is in regard to restore discs on new macs. Will new macs come with snow leopard restore discs then. Surely you will still have the option to do a clean install of a new mac without having to purchase new snow leopard discs, to then install lion on top. Any thoughts?

Oh come on people.
This is NOT difficult.

Have you ever seen an official "Linux Install Disk"? Give me a break.

I am sure that those who really need media [CD / DVD / USB key] to install will be able to create one as needed, on whatever writeable media they provide.

The only open question is whether it will be possible to create just an installer which goes out via internet to get the full OS, or possible to create one which has the full OS. I am betting that there will be ways to do either.
 
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The question I have then is in regard to restore discs on new macs. Will new macs come with snow leopard restore discs then. Surely you will still have the option to do a clean install of a new mac without having to purchase new snow leopard discs, to then install lion on top. Any thoughts?

Oh come on people.
This is NOT difficult.

Have you ever seen an official "Linux Install Disk"? Give me a break.

I am sure that those who really need media [CD / DVD / USB key] to install will be able to create one as needed, on whatever writeable media they provide.

The only open question is whether it will be possible to create just an installer which goes out via internet to get the full OS, or possible to create one which has the full OS. I am betting that there will be ways to do either.

The question is how it will be implemented. Don't be a deuce? Sp? Nope.
 
Have you ever seen an official "Linux Install Disk"? Give me a break.
The difference is that Linux is being downloaded in an ISO format so you can burn a DVD. 10.7 is being downloaded as an installer. Now there are already steps being posted on various sites in how to make a DVD from the installer. While workable, they are a hack in a sense. Why should we resort going into the contents of the installer and manipulate it so we can burn a DVD instead of just having apple provide some sort of physical media.
 

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Another yes,
I think Ubuntu gives you the option for discs as well. So you can buy the discs, or download the ISO image. Either way Linux is meant to be installed with a DVD where as Lion is meant to downloaded and installed in place.
 
The difference is that Linux is being downloaded in an ISO format so you can burn a DVD. 10.7 is being downloaded as an installer. Now there are already steps being posted on various sites in how to make a DVD from the installer. While workable, they are a hack in a sense. Why should we resort going into the contents of the installer and manipulate it so we can burn a DVD instead of just having apple provide some sort of physical media.

There have been at least 10 stories on various Mac sites showing how to create a bootable Disc for Lion...Here are a few:

http://www.cultofmac.com/mac-os-x-lion-boot-disk-discovery-saves-the-world-how-to
http://www.tuaw.com/2011/06/07/how-to-burn-a-lion-boot-disc/
https://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-1166184.html
http://osxdaily.com/2011/06/08/create-burn-bootable-mac-os-x-lion-install-disc/

Works for USB stick too.
 

Who is saying that will work on the final release? The dubious email from Steve Jobs said it wasn't possible to do a clean install of Lion, and you needed Snow Leopard on your machine before you could install Lion.

Then again, the email could be fake and the solution(s) you posted above could work on the final release. Who knows?
 
All the fancy retail stores and not a copy of Lion to show off on the shelves? there will be discs.
 
All the fancy retail stores and not a copy of Lion to show off on the shelves? there will be discs.

The retail stores don't have disc sections anymore - at least the ones out here. I don't think that is an issue.

Besides, guys, writing is on the wall. It started with the MBA, and now with Lion, Final Cut Pro X, and iWork/iLife being distributed solely in the App Store, I think it's pretty evident that the next step - and I think it will happen THIS year - is the removal of optical drives on the rest of the lineup. We already saw rumors that the next mini won't have one.

Apple will rebrand the MacBook Air SuperDrive as the "Apple SuperDrive", and sell it in stores/as an accessory for those that still want/need one.
 
The retail stores don't have disc sections anymore - at least the ones out here. I don't think that is an issue.

Besides, guys, writing is on the wall. It started with the MBA, and now with Lion, Final Cut Pro X, and iWork/iLife being distributed solely in the App Store, I think it's pretty evident that the next step - and I think it will happen THIS year - is the removal of optical drives on the rest of the lineup. We already saw rumors that the next mini won't have one.

Apple will rebrand the MacBook Air SuperDrive as the "Apple SuperDrive", and sell it in stores/as an accessory for those that still want/need one.

I would think removeall of superdrives is gonna happen any time soon, why? too meany people have cd's and dvd's, if you ned a very portable comp and don't need cd's you get the mba
 
Scroll upwards. ;)

D'oh, my 40+ eyes are having problems focusing on the image.


I'm not worried there won't be a way, I do believe people will find away. Its sad that apple doesn't think people want/need a disc especially when upgrading hard drives.
 
don't know if this was mentioned before, but when you do install lion, will you have to reinstall all your apps? and will office 2011 work for lion? or is this something we will have to wait and find out about?

thanks!
 
don't know if this was mentioned before, but when you do install lion, will you have to reinstall all your apps? and will office 2011 work for lion? or is this something we will have to wait and find out about?

thanks!

No, you don't need to reinstall anything. Office 2011 works just fine.
 
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