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Let's not take what I'm saying out of context OK?

1) Did I mention music or movies, no. Is this thread about music or movies, no.

2) Of course Apple would like be the sales leader for bragging rights but only because that leads people to buy its hardware. Apple's profits on media content pale in comparison to what it makes on hardware. Ultimately, Apple is agnostic on what media sells users on the iPad, if its books great. OTOH Amazon has nothing to sell Kindle users but books & newspapers.

3) If you recall, when Apple started iTMS, Apple did not make a recognizable profit from music/movie sales. Jobs even said it was a "loss leader."

I dont agree, the potential profit margin on eBooks is so much higher than music or movies. Really small file sizes, very low production costs compared to movies and even music. It could be a major market in no time... eBooks just need their iPod moment and thats exactly what Apple is aiming at. Imagine if they released a new Harry Potter book and apple blagged the rights to release it on the iBook Store a week ahead of anywhere else? Really serious revenue.
 
Amazon has already announced its intentions to update its Kindle app for the iPad.

Amazon Blackberry announcement (see below). If you look at the release it says:

"Amazon’s Whispersync technology saves and synchronizes a customer’s bookmarks across their Kindle, Kindle DX, iPhone, iPod touch, PC, BlackBerry and soon, Mac and iPad, so customers always have their reading material with them and never lose their place."

You probably would still have to order books on Kindle or through Amazon rather than on the iPad. Either way, for the current Kindle installed base, it will be important to be able to read prior purchases on the iPad so that you don't have to re-buy them.

Also it's fair to say that Amazon will have far more books available than Apple will at launch. iPad will be great for best-sellers but will have a long way to go before hitting Kindle's book availability. That speaks to Amazon's ebook viability for quite some time.

That said, it's hard to figure out what Amazon intends. They are not a hardware company and lose money on the Kindle device itself. They also by their own admission are not making money on ebooks either -- in fact they subsidize ebooks to the tune of about $1.50 per sale. I'm sure there's a plan to make money in here somewhere but right now I don't see it, unless their intention is to become such a force in ebook selling that they can eventually dictate better terms.
 
I dont agree, the potential profit margin on eBooks is so much higher than music or movies. Really small file sizes, very low production costs compared to movies and even music. It could be a major market in no time... eBooks just need their iPod moment and thats exactly what Apple is aiming at. Imagine if they released a new Harry Potter book and apple blagged the rights to release it on the iBook Store a week ahead of anywhere else? Really serious revenue.

The publisher will make money on eBooks, but again, off topic. Under the agreement Apple has supposedly made with the publishers, Apple will make less than the 30% take it gets from apps. But I'll be generous and say Apple gets 30%, and that hosting books at Apple's server farm costs Apple nothing.

30% of a $13.00 is $4. Lets say Apple sells as many books as it does movies, although we know people watch more movies than read books. That is about 10 million. Now that is since 2007, but again I'll be generous and say its only a year. That's 40 million dollars gross profit in book sales. Do you know what $40m is to Apple? It's less than half the cost of Steve Jobs jet.

So again, and for the last time, books are not going to be a huge profit center for Apple. It's a mere carrot to get the rabbit to the iPad.
 
My thinking is, even if it's the same iPhone app 'stretched' up to iPad resolution, if I use the smallest font, it'll be pretty close to right for me. I even did a comparison between the smallest iPhone Kindle app font size which actually yielded more lines of text than the preferred font size setting on my Kindle 2. I forget the numbers, but I read the Kindle at size 2 or 3 (with 5 being the largest) on my Kindle 2 and the smallest (of 6 sizes) iPhone app font had 2 extra lines. 2 Extra lines on a screen that's considerably bigger (10" vs 6.5") sounds right.

So if the iPhone app is there, it'll be 'good enough' for me, but of course I'd love Amazon to create an iPad app, which I'm sure they're dying to do (imagine their book sales when their install share increases 20 fold) but will Apple allow that?

The problem with just using the 2x scale for iPhone apps is that the fonts are rendered, then scaled, which is going to look pretty terrible. Not to mention the fact that it will only have as few words per line as the iPhone version. I'm hoping they let them have an iPad version.
 
I don't believe the Kindle App on the iPhone allows you to buy books, only read them, so your theory doesn't really work, as the Kindle app would not be a direct competitor to the iBooks app. You have to buy the Kindle book on your computer then sync it with your iPad/iPhone. That is a lot of work when you can just punch a button on your iPad and directly d/l the book.

You most certainly can buy Kindle books directly from the iPhone with the Kindle Reader. I just did it using their One Click and getting an immediate download to the iPhone. It was very easy. The Get Books button inside the Kindle Reader takes you to Kindle eBooks on Amazon.com and you can also search for eBooks.
 
You most certainly can buy Kindle books directly from the iPhone with the Kindle Reader. I just did it using their One Click and getting an immediate download to the iPhone. It was very easy. The Get Books button inside the Kindle Reader takes you to Kindle eBooks on Amazon.com and you can also search for eBooks.

Yes it really does work and it works well! Your right on!

One thing that surprised me was just how clear and easy it was for me to read my kindle books on the iPod touch. I own a Kindle 2 and after reading on the touch, it was enough for me to say that I prefer the touch screen to the kindles, contrary to all the debates about e-ink screens. It helped me in my final decision about the iPad.

Hence the 32 gig iPad is on Pre-order--))))

I prefer the iPad screen crispness and for me I know it will be a lot easier to read on after trying out the Kindle app on my iTouch screen.

Each has it's place and I will still use my Kindle when away from home (the latest update was great) and my iPad on my wi-fi when I am home! Best of both worlds--))) :)
 
After reading that statement from Amazon, sounds pretty good it will be available. I don't see a reason for Apple to reject an iPad Kindle app. It can only help, imo.
 
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