I hope so - just to irritate a bunch of you. I never notice it unless I'm on 1 of these forums.
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Other Will the Notch Still Be Here in 2030?
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There is a reasonable chance that by 2030 that 95% of the area of your cell phone will be able to be transparent OR solid depending on environmental and use case. that 5% will be your so called "notch". it will not limit the screen per se but there will be a portion of the device that cannot be made transparent. The notch could be removed today, the phone would be slightly thicker and likely cost significantly more but there is no reason why a device cannot use the camera and other sensors during "gaps" in the display emitting light. If you need to use the front facing camera, the notch would appear but when you are not using it... the notch would disappear. only appearing for things like Face ID recognition and other events that require for a clear view without the light saturation from the display in front of the sensors / lens. Mathematically they could likely even subtract out the light emitted by the screen itself and not "turn off" the notch area at all for less sensitive situations. It may take a specialized image processor to do this... but I don't see any technical reason why it isn't possible.
It all depends on if Apple can find a way to hide the camera and the other sensors like the face scanner fast enough. If not, it will most certainly be done by 2040
Reality is like that at times.
With the under screen cameras getting better by the year I think it’s safe to say the Notch will be gone by 2030 at this rate. For Apple it’s just a matter of hiding the FaceID tech behind the screen or above it in the bezel, they will have to get creative.
Doubt it, with Apple always choosing to do things when they are truly ready I think by the time they do it the screen and camera manufacturers will have this nailed down almost perfectly, there is a lot of R&D going into this tech, and don’t think Samsung don’t know that it maybe glitchy as they seem to treat the Galaxy Fold as a ongoing Beta Experiment that the biggest tech fans buy no matter it’s state, it’s literally a test bed for them right now.
Samsung is running so Apple can fly, all these guys are tied into each other in some way.
Hopefully a liquid lens will do away with the need for a hump, and the need for so many cameras.
https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/what-is-a-liquid-lens
I don’t like the notch, I’d rather see the screen ears disappear, and a matching bezel at the bottom with a slimmed down home button. I know that wouldn’t suit many, but I’d like it.
Aesthetics are subjective so I'm not attacking your personal taste or preferences. And if your preference is no notch but having straight lines, I totally get that.
However if we were to take that phone, condense the front camera and other gadgets to the center of the bezel then extend the display up you would get more screen real estate. You can use that wasted bezel space to display system information that isn't relevant to foreground task such as battery, wifi cellular, etc.
However when I do that it starts looking like.....an iPhone...
Please excuse the worlds worst photoshop (Gimp).
Again, if you just dont like the notch due to aesthetics, completely get that. However I think extending the notch edge to edge isn't a step forward. Its a step backward in some ways because we are getting a top bezel back just like the iPhone 8 and earlier had.
Apple always had a form over function mentality. So for for the iPhone to have a notch at all means they either don't see it being an issue (I don't) or there is just no other way FOR THEM to realistically accomplish it without sacrificing something.
I think when Apple does get rid of the notch it will be somehow hidden behind usable screen real estate or not need due to some other advancements in technology.
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The notch is butt ugly. You can't unsee it.
Some people are good at denial, though: "I don't even notice it anymore!"
LOL. Right.
Some people are good at denial, though: "I don't even notice it anymore!"
LOL. Right.
Guys, I still use the iPhone 8 and can’t wait to have a notched iPhone.
Maybe the 14
Maybe the 14
No denial here. When I'm using my iPhone, I'm focused on the content which is in the center of the screen. I don't stare at the top for no reason and only glance up there to check the time. If you're focused on the notch, "you're using it wrong".
How dare you present an opposing view, DENIAL!!! LOL!
I’m the same, be it notch or cutouts, don’t really pay them any attention as I am focused on the content.
In all honesty, I mostly don’t notice or pay attention to the notch. It’s only in the way for me when I’m doing something in landscape orientation. It’s a nuisance in the corner of the screen in those situations. But in portrait orientation it’s totally fine.
"I paid $1,500 for this phone, so I'm going to pretend I don't notice the notch every single day, and I will also pretend that I'm not pretending not to notice the notch."
Ghost of Steve Jobs: "What's this notch they're talking about?"
Tim Cook: "It's just a rumour, Steve."
Ghost of Steve Jobs: "It better be, Tim."
Ghost of Steve Jobs: "What's this notch they're talking about?"
Tim Cook: "It's just a rumour, Steve."
Ghost of Steve Jobs: "It better be, Tim."
So everyone that claims that they don’t notice it after a while, me included, are lying to you and the whole world, and to ourselves as well?
I don't know. What would you rather have, a phone with a notch or a phone without one?
Well clearly, judging by your previous posts above, you do know exactly what we are all thinking. Thank God(c) you know because obviously we have no idea what we think about our own phones. I had no idea I had been in denial for all this time until you came along and told me, and the rest of us, what we really are thinking.
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If weren't for all these threads about it I'd never think about the notch. Different people have different thoughts about things. Same thing about other things - people get upset about the looks of icons - I care what my phone does and not what an icon looks like
Well, I see that you didn't answer my question, so I suppose that means you'd rather have a phone without a notch. That would make sense because, all other things being equal, who would want a notch obscuring part of the content on their screen?
No one, I guess. Many have hated the notch since it first appeared:
The new iPhone is ugly | TechCrunch
I'll be the first to admit that I'm a bit old-fashioned when it comes to phones. Everyone scoffs at my iPhone SE, but the truth is it's the best phone
techcrunch.com
From the article above: "If they removed the notch, literally no one would want the version with the notch, because it’s so plainly and universally undesirable."