ah now... ah now lads... Lets calm down. To be fair to the poor chap He just wants to see a new MacPro.
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will there be a new MAC pro in 2012 ????
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The famous, "anticipation is greater than realization" quote certainly doesn't apply to Apple product releases.
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Maybe yes, buttttt - In addition to all of the good reasons set forth above about why Intel has not introduced the Sandy Bridge-E5s timely, Intel's pricing structure for Sandy Bridge-E5s (and the general perception of many that Gigahertz is king) will place the high end Mac Pro on an even tighter rope. If one is desperate for the high end Sandy Bridge-E5 Mac Pro, i.e., the fastest Mac Pro system with dual 8-core CPUs, it looks like he's going to be extremely queazy even if such systems arrive next year. Apple already appears to be questioning the profitability of the Pro line, thus Apple is probably not going to be spending more for these new chips than it pays for the current Westmeres. Apple currently charges a $1200 premium to step up from dual 5670's (introductory retail price - $1440 each) from dual 5650's (introductory retail price - $996 each) ($1440 - $996 = $444; $444 x 2 = $888 vs. $1200) and Apple charges $6200 for the base price of the current top end Mac Pro Westmere system. I doubt that on introduction Intel will give Apple any bigger discounts on Sandy Bridge-E5s than it gave Apple for Westmeres on introduction. I suspect that Intel will price the new CPUs at wholesale to Apple comparable to how Intel prices Westmeres to Apple now. Apple will simply pocket the savings from the new chip line as times goes on and as the wholesale / retail price falls just as Apple has done and is doing now with it's Westmere Pro line. Most likely, Apple will not attempt to retail the high end Sandy Bridge-E5 Mac Pro for a base price of more than $6500, if that much. So the question becomes, what Sandy Bridge-E5 8-cores will yield to Apple, at least, the same profit it makes now per machine, ignoring other potential system cost savings. According to published introductory retail prices for Sandy Bridge-E5s, the Sandy Bridge-E5 2665 chip appears to be the best candidate for the high end because its introductory retail price is $1440 - the same price as the 5670, and the 2665 chip has a TDP of 115 watts. Unless the reviewers, including those at Apple, are able to show proof to those interested in buying the new systems that dual 8-core 2.4 GHz 2665 systems are at least as fast as dual 6-core 2.93 GHz 5670 systems, the hastening of the demise of the high end dual processor Mac Pro line will be inevitable because of diminishing sales. Thankfully, the single CPU systems (i.e., those with the Sandy Bridge-E5 1620 [4-core - 3.6 GHz non-turbo/3.9 GHz turbo - $294 retail] and Sandy Bridge-E5 1650 [6-core 3.2 GHz non-turbo/3.8 GHz turbo - $583 retail]) appear not to be saddled with same sales job requirement. Moreover, the Sandy Bridge i7 3930K (the i7 equivalent of the Sandy Bridge-E5 1650) has been getting excellent performance/value reviews.
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Not so sure
There could be one more update of the line. It would depend on if their suppliers update their aging hardware. My guess not. It doesn't seem like Apple will invest in a new design.
My feeling around this is that I have apple friends who joke about me being the only guy who bought a 2010 mac pro. They didn't flat out say it was dead, but I got the drift...
When I heard this, I spent a week as a test switch to my 2010 MBP as my principal workstation. To be honest, performance wasn't as big of an issue as I thought (my mac pro is a quad 2.8). What was unbearable was the video and the heat/fan noise. For detailed work, the 330M was significantly worse than the 5750, or the 120/285 that I threw in for comparison. And any time I kicked up photoshop or after effects the fans started to go mad.
I didn't make it through the week. I made it two days.
At this point I'm not sure what I'll do. The future is unclear. I can make it a couple of years on the mac pro 2010 setup, but towers are not in Apple's future.
There could be one more update of the line. It would depend on if their suppliers update their aging hardware. My guess not. It doesn't seem like Apple will invest in a new design.
My feeling around this is that I have apple friends who joke about me being the only guy who bought a 2010 mac pro. They didn't flat out say it was dead, but I got the drift...
When I heard this, I spent a week as a test switch to my 2010 MBP as my principal workstation. To be honest, performance wasn't as big of an issue as I thought (my mac pro is a quad 2.8). What was unbearable was the video and the heat/fan noise. For detailed work, the 330M was significantly worse than the 5750, or the 120/285 that I threw in for comparison. And any time I kicked up photoshop or after effects the fans started to go mad.
I didn't make it through the week. I made it two days.
At this point I'm not sure what I'll do. The future is unclear. I can make it a couple of years on the mac pro 2010 setup, but towers are not in Apple's future.
This would render those comparisons obsolete if it makes it into a 2012 MP:
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-28nm-Tahiti-GPU-Review/?page=1
This may be pointless, but I thought I'd share it nonetheless.
The 12-core Mac Pro has had a shipping time of 3 days for the past year.
Today it changed to 2-4 weeks. I know this probably doesn't mean anything, but there is a possibility that this indicates that the current inventory of Mac Pro's are starting to dry up.
(Australian Apple Store BTW).
The 12-core Mac Pro has had a shipping time of 3 days for the past year.
Today it changed to 2-4 weeks. I know this probably doesn't mean anything, but there is a possibility that this indicates that the current inventory of Mac Pro's are starting to dry up.
(Australian Apple Store BTW).
C'mon guys, take it easy on the guy. I know it's probably annoying seeing these types of questions constantly posted on the forums, but I'd assume that we've all posted something that has already been posted a few times or more.
And I'd assume that new updated Mac Pros will come out in 2012. I'm actually holding out for when they do, and it will be my new desktop. I don't know if they will change the design, but I'm honestly satisfied with the current look even though its been around for awhile. Hope that answered your question.
And I'd assume that new updated Mac Pros will come out in 2012. I'm actually holding out for when they do, and it will be my new desktop. I don't know if they will change the design, but I'm honestly satisfied with the current look even though its been around for awhile. Hope that answered your question.
The real questions are:
How many threads about "Will there be a Mac Pro 2012/2013/2014" will there be?
Will there be a Mac Pro in 2013 ?
Will there be 2013 or will it all end in 2012?
Will there be a Mac Pro in 2014 ?
hmm
How many threads about "Will there be a Mac Pro 2012/2013/2014" will there be?
Will there be a Mac Pro in 2013 ?
Will there be 2013 or will it all end in 2012?
Will there be a Mac Pro in 2014 ?
hmm
Actually, the better question is how many pointless posts in the pointless threads will there be like yours and (admittedly) mine?
