iPhone SE (2016) Will they cancel the SE next week?

[jackoatmon]

Hi.

I need a headphone jack, don't like curved screen edges (too easy to break), and can't use a phone bigger than 4" (small clumsy hands, even the SE is a little too big for me). And I love mechanical home button. I don't like the feeling of force-touch-whatever. I love the SE exactly as-is, and I plan to buy a large stack of them when they're discontinued.

Are they going to be dinscontinued or replaced with something that lacks a headphone jack and/or features the vomit-inducing "notch" design?

 

[Cryates]

No one knows. Seems like the SE is marching closer and closer towards the end of its lifetime though. I do think it'll stick around, at least through this year.

 

[JPack]

Probably won't be canceled. The form factor won't receive updates either.

In some emerging markets, the SE retails for about $250. There's probably room for Apple to reduce the price of SE in mature markets as well - down to $299 or $279.

 

[KrisLord]

Probably won't be canceled. The form factor won't receive updates either.

In some emerging markets, the SE retails for about $250. There's probably room for Apple to reduce the price of SE in mature markets as well - down to $299 or $279.

It’s available in the UK for £199 which is about $250 and that includes 20% tax.

Apples official price is still £349 though.

I’m wondering at what point Apple don’t want it cannibalising sales of other models in developed markets.

 

[KrisLord]

Probably won't be canceled. The form factor won't receive updates either.

In some emerging markets, the SE retails for about $250. There's probably room for Apple to reduce the price of SE in mature markets as well - down to $299 or $279.

It’s available in the UK for £199 which is about $250 and that includes 20% tax.

Apples official price is still £349 though.

I’m wondering at what point Apple don’t want it cannibalising sales of other models in developed markets.

 

[JPack]

It’s available in the UK for £199 which is about $250 and that includes 20% tax.

Apples official price is still £349 though.

I’m wondering at what point Apple don’t want it cannibalising sales of other models in developed markets.

I doubt consumers are cross-shopping between the SE and 6s. The record breaking sales of the iPhone 6 in 2014 showed consumers want the larger form factor. The SE continues to serve as a gateway product for new smartphone users and those on a budget.

 

[44267547]

Hi.

I need a headphone jack, don't like curved screen edges (too easy to break), and can't use a phone bigger than 4" (small clumsy hands, even the SE is a little too big for me). And I love mechanical home button. I don't like the feeling of force-touch-whatever. I love the SE exactly as-is, and I plan to buy a large stack of them when they're discontinued.

Are they going to be dinscontinued or replaced with something that lacks a headphone jack and/or features the vomit-inducing "notch" design?

Apple won’t ‘cancel’ the iPhone SE, they may discontinue it. But I actually believe that the 6s will be discontinued and the iPhone SE might remain in their lineup as an entry level device.

 

[snow755]

the head phone jack is not comeing back

 

[Apple_Robert]

The SE is history.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

I doubt consumers are cross-shopping between the SE and 6s. The record breaking sales of the iPhone 6 in 2014 showed consumers want the larger form factor. The SE continues to serve as a gateway product for new smartphone users and those on a budget.

Apple won’t ‘cancel’ the iPhone SE, they may discontinue it. But I actually believe that the 6s will be discontinued and the iPhone SE might remain in their lineup as an entry level device.

And there are some of us for whom the (small, elegant, ergonomic, attractive) form factor is a major attraction.

Personally, I cannot stand those larger phones.

 

[EM2013]

The SE is history.

I say good riddance.

 

[44267547]

And there are some of us for whom the (small, elegant, ergonomic, attractive) form factor is a major attraction.

Absolutely, that’s why Apple (More specifically Greg Joswiak)even stated in the March 2016 Keynote, they returned the iPhone SE in its current form factor because they acknowledged there is a demographic that wanted a smaller form factor at an affordable price. But the reality is, larger smart phones are dominating the market because they incorporate larger batteries and bigger displays. And of course, Apple places most of their newest technology in their largest phones.

But the real point behind my post that you quoted, was not necessarily that the SE *should* be canceled for one way or another, its that it might be discontinued as an entry-level device, _if_ it was a one time offering.

 

[Newtons Apple]

You should be able to find them at Best Buy for a few years but sooner and not later the hardware will get so dated and slow.

Could not use a phone that small again.

 

[arkitect]

And there are some of us for whom the (small, elegant, ergonomic, attractive) form factor is a major attraction.

Personally, I cannot stand those larger phones.

I find the huge phones cumbersome… and, yes, inelegant.

I say good riddance.

I never understand the antagonistic stance. Live and let live.
I don't disparage your use of large phones.
Surely you don't feel threatened by the existence of this "small" phone… now do you?

Absolutely, that’s why Apple (More specifically Greg Joswiak)even stated in the March 2016 Keynote, they returned the iPhone SE in its current form factor because they acknowledged there is a demographic that wanted a smaller form factor at an affordable price.

I hope it continues in its small size — whether it is the same form or has a headphone jack, I really can't care.
It's the size of it that is the attraction to me.

It's not all about price people.

 

[macduke]

I think it will be eventually replaced with the iPhone SE X. Ok, maybe not that name, lol. 4.7" display in nearly the same size enclosure as the iPhone SE. The big problem is getting Face ID to a price where they can put it into an SE and getting the notch to be a bit narrower so a smaller device would have room for time and the necessary icons. There were some rumors, I believe, of the notch becoming smaller, possibly next year. I know that's not what you want to hear, but this is probably what will happen. The price will probably go up as well. Personally I don't care how much it costs because my wife just needs a smaller phone. Otherwise she won't upgrade.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

I find the huge phones cumbersome… and, yes, inelegant.

Very much so.

I love that small, elegant form factor.

I say good riddance.

Dear me.

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I never understand the antagonistic stance. Live and let live.
I don't disparage your use of large phones.
Surely you don't feel threatened by the existence of this "small" phone… now do you?

Beautifully said.

And I echo every word.

Why the antagonism to the choices and preferences of others?

As @arkitect points out, I don't disparage your use (that is, @EM2013) use of larger (and yes, inelegant) phones; they are simply not my preference.

In the old days, I loved clamshell phones - they were amor the smallest, neatest, most elegant phones in existence. I'd kill for an iPhone SE in a clam shell shape; failing that, I shall rest content with the iPhone SE as it is, for it is a lovely and elegant design.

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I hope it continues in its small size — whether it is the same form or has a headphone jack, I really can't care.
It's the size of it that is the attraction to me.

It's not all about price people.

Exactly. And very well said.

 

[44267547]

I hope it continues in its small size — whether it is the same form or has a headphone jack, I really can't care.
It's the size of it that is the attraction to me.
.

There was a Rumor suggesting the SE 2 might be revamped. Take a look at this thread:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/xcode-10-beta-leaked-the-se2.2133611/

 

[dcpmark]

I say good riddance.

See, now we KNOW that you are trolling, and not very well, I might add....the key to successful trolling is not to overplay your hand.

 

[nviz22]

I don't think a SE is coming out next week. Apple is trying to be more quiet and reduce leaks, but we saw a memo about leaking other products leak itself earlier. The signs are pointing to 3 phones. I think Apple is gravitating towards what the market wants, which is big screen devices. As a former SE owner, I was very skeptical about the device due to the screen size. I gave it a chance and absolutely loved it. I sold it for a profit when I ended up getting a 2017 iPhone though.

I really do not want Apple to stop making upgraded 4" devices because they are definitely quality products. It's a challenge to find a better 4" display phone w/ the same type of software support and value Apple can give at like a $150 price point.

 

[x-evil-x]

I think it will be eventually replaced with the iPhone SE X. Ok, maybe not that name, lol. 4.7" display in nearly the same size enclosure as the iPhone SE. The big problem is getting Face ID to a price where they can put it into an SE and getting the notch to be a bit narrower so a smaller device would have room for time and the necessary icons. There were some rumors, I believe, of the notch becoming smaller, possibly next year. I know that's not what you want to hear, but this is probably what will happen. The price will probably go up as well. Personally I don't care how much it costs because my wife just needs a smaller phone. Otherwise she won't upgrade.

give me the iPhone sex design please

 

[macduke]

give me the iPhone sex design please

 

[s54]

I went from iPhone X to iPhone 8 to iPhone SE and I couldn't be happier. I was willing to sacrifice the camera and speed for portability, ease of use (specifically, as it relates to one-handed usage), and overall look.

I truly believe that Apple will not discontinue the SE concept. That is, as long as demand is there, they will continue to sell a small phone, even though it may not necessarily be the current SE. The two major selling points for the SE are:

• size
• price

This sounds all too familiar. Years ago, when sports car manufacturers started to come out with sequential transmissions (SMG, DCT, etc.), the consensus was that "manual" is dead. However, despite mass adoption of those self-shifting and faster transmissions, some of the best sports cars on the planet are still offered with a clutch (e.g. latest 911's, M3's, etc.). Clearly, there's enough demand for a manual, which is why they continue to make it. They could have ditched it altogether by now, but apparently there are enough people (enthusiasts) who can't live without a clutch pedal, since manual is still being offered on quite a few modern cars.

(When the e60 M5 came out, it was offered with SMG only. BMW got so much crap for this. End result: they released it in manual: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/b...r-u-s-m5-victory-and-a-manual-gearbox-is-ours)

My point is, if there's enough demand for an iPhone with a smaller form factor, Apple will continue to sell it. And judging by what I see out there, the demand for a smaller iPhone like the SE is pretty significant.

 

[KrisLord]

I doubt consumers are cross-shopping between the SE and 6s. The record breaking sales of the iPhone 6 in 2014 showed consumers want the larger form factor. The SE continues to serve as a gateway product for new smartphone users and those on a budget.

I think there’s probably more cross shopping than you think, you’re comparing the 2 cheapest iPhones available.

There’s only £100 price difference in their official prices from Apple.com

Those that specifically want the smaller handset or don’t want to spend the extra will go with the SE.

 

[s54]

I doubt consumers are cross-shopping between the SE and 6s. The record breaking sales of the iPhone 6 in 2014 showed consumers want the larger form factor. The SE continues to serve as a gateway product for new smartphone users and those on a budget.

Are you comparing phones by phone size or screen size? - Two entirely different things. Just as the iPhone X (despite having a larger screen) is basically the size of the 6S, Apple can make an iPhone SE with a screen size of the 6S.

 

[thadoggfather]

If they do I’ll pour one out for the little homie