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Will you switch to Windows 7 from OS X? (boot camp/fusion/paralells/new pc)

  • Yes! Windows 7 is definitely shaping up to be better than OS X.

    Votes: 38 8.9%
  • No, and besides, Snow Leopard's coming out soon too.

    Votes: 303 71.0%
  • I'll wait 'till the final version of Windows 7 is released before I decide

    Votes: 86 20.1%

  • Total voters
    427

thejadedmonkey

macrumors G3
May 28, 2005
9,240
3,499
Pennsylvania
Or so you think. How do you know it? How do you know that there's not a nasty rootkit somewhere in your computer? Many years of windows usage prove that you can't unless you use several system monitoring softwares, which gives tons of popups. An antivirus is never enough.

Because for the longest time, Rootkits didn't exist and anti-virus could detect viruses. Plus, I have yet to see a virus (trojan, etc) that doesn't make its precense known.

By the time rootkits were around, I was at college with an industrial strength anti-virus program. I'm pretty sure I never got one.
 

EmperorDarius

macrumors 6502a
Jan 2, 2009
687
0
Because for the longest time, Rootkits didn't exist and anti-virus could detect viruses. Plus, I have yet to see a virus (trojan, etc) that doesn't make its precense known.

By the time rootkits were around, I was at college with an industrial strength anti-virus program. I'm pretty sure I never got one.

A thing that a rootkit sure doesn't do is getting noticed. You won't notice any slowdown, nor any process or strange file. It may just attach to the system files and do whatever it wants.
 

Theophany

macrumors 6502a
Nov 16, 2008
633
186
NW London.
You've been drinking too much Apple Kool-aid. I've used a windows computer for many years and have never once gotten a virus.

Not really. I've been using Windows day-in-day out since the days of Windows 3.0 and DOS and I've never *touch wood* had a virus. The difference is, on Windows I have to consciously make an effort to avoid getting a virus (AV installed or not), on my Mac, I don't have to.

Now my job, working as a small-scale systems admin and working in my free time as a freelance computer Mr. Fixit, I see viruses all the time and every time the entire process of cleaning out the crud is tedious.

it's getting boring. just cuz steve allmighty says its trash, it's actually not.
overwhelming majority doesn't agree with him. ;) say over 90%?

Who cares what Steve says? No, really, I don't :confused:

I don't buy or not buy things based on his outspoken opinions, that is unless he is willing to pay for all the stuff he thinks I should be using.
 

chagla

macrumors 6502a
Mar 21, 2008
797
1,727
I've been testing it and i don't like it at all.. :p

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you are using win vista, NOT win 7.
 

Quillz

macrumors 65816
Jan 6, 2006
1,421
0
Los Angeles, CA
you are using win vista, NOT win 7.
No, it's Windows 7. I can tell by the icon set and the fact that the Windows flag on the Start button is different from Vista. It a modified Windows 7 setup, as it's using the Windows Classic theme and all the watermarks and "Send Feedback" links have been removed.
 

Quillz

macrumors 65816
Jan 6, 2006
1,421
0
Los Angeles, CA
Windows over OSX!:confused:

This thread is a joke right?
No, it's called opinions and personal preference. Not everyone enjoys dreaming about Steve Jobs all night. Why is is it so difficult for you to understand that some simply prefer Windows? While it's cool to hate Microsoft and spread Windows FUD, always remember that Windows got to where it was not only because of smart business decisions made by Microsoft, but because it's a very good operating system. It was far better than Mac OS, and Apple really didn't catch up until Mac OS X.
 

chagla

macrumors 6502a
Mar 21, 2008
797
1,727
No, it's Windows 7. I can tell by the icon set and the fact that the Windows flag on the Start button is different from Vista. It a modified Windows 7 setup, as it's using the Windows Classic theme and all the watermarks and "Send Feedback" links have been removed.
yes, you're right. :eek:

i was looking for the "windows 7 for testing and evaluation purpose only" notice on the bottom right hand corner. i was under the impression all win7 beta shows that notice. i was wrong then.
 

Quillz

macrumors 65816
Jan 6, 2006
1,421
0
Los Angeles, CA
yes, you're right. :eek:

i was looking for the "windows 7 for testing and evaluation purpose only" notice on the bottom right hand corner. i was under the impression all win7 beta shows that notice. i was wrong then.
No, you're right. It does show that watermark in the bottom right. But there are tricks to remove it if you really want to.
 

NoSmokingBandit

macrumors 68000
Apr 13, 2008
1,579
3
If the rumored 'Marble' interface for 10.6 is indeed real and offers window management that doesnt suck it will be hard to make a decision. Win7's window management is just completely superb, much better than any other os i have used.


In response to someone up there^^
Why wouldnt MS use macs? They write software for osx. Im no programmer, but i would assume its rather difficult to write an office suite for an OS you have no access to. Just a thought.
 

Quillz

macrumors 65816
Jan 6, 2006
1,421
0
Los Angeles, CA
However, there's still no expose, spaces, time machine, etc and more importantly no UNIX underneath!
Expose isn't really necessary on Windows 7 due to Aero Peek, the taskbar being a window manager and Flip-3d. The reason Apple added Expose to Mac OS X in the first place is because the Dock is nothing more than an application launcher. But since Windows 95, you've always had a centralized location for window management.

Also, Aero Peek is in some ways better than Expose because it doesn't move or resize any of the windows. It shows you exactly where everything is, and it also turns everything to glass, except for the windows related to the application you're managing through the taskbar. It combines Expose's "Show all windows" and "Show all application windows" functions.

As for Spaces, well, that's true, but not everyone needs or uses it. Effective window management is a good skill to learn, regardless of how many virtual desktops you may have. And of course, there are third-party virtual desktops for Windows available. Microsoft even released a virtual desktops PowerToy back in the Windows XP days.

As for Time Machine... Windows Vista and beyond now includes shadow copies, which are somewhat similar in that they version all the documents on your computer. The main difference is that Time Machine requires an external disk, while shadow copies can be stored on a secure partition on the same drive.

And as for Unix, that's also true. But I still fail to see what exactly makes Unix so superior to NTFS. I think it's trendy to say this without doing much research. For everyday usage, there is very little that Unix does that NTFS can't. The Windows NT kernel was first developed in 1993 and has become extremely matured since then. End-users will likely never know or care about the differences between the two. They both work and are credible foundations for building operating systems.
 

Quillz

macrumors 65816
Jan 6, 2006
1,421
0
Los Angeles, CA
If the rumored 'Marble' interface for 10.6 is indeed real and offers window management that doesnt suck it will be hard to make a decision. Win7's window management is just completely superb, much better than any other os i have used.
Unfortunately, I feel that Steve Jobs is just too in love with Mac OS X how it is now that he sees no reason to make some necessary usability improvements. I don't think the Dock should go away, as it's become a staple of Mac OS X much like Windows' Start menu. Instead, there should be an "advanced" user interface or something that would combine the Dock with something like DragThing, which allows you to easily pin applications to the extreme corners and edges, use text labels, and lock everything down into a static size and shape. This would adhere to Fitts' Law, and DragThing (just for the sake of an example), is also rather good at window management.
 

BlackLight

macrumors regular
Nov 21, 2008
162
14
i too switched to mac recently got the new alu macbook 2.4ghz but honestly i never really left windows... had xp via bootcamp and got windows 7 ..very impressed so far... will install over xp and if it gets better by august i will definately buy and install on my mac. but if not, will downgrade but honestly i will never leave windows cause there are alot fo stuff i love and still use there. :)
 

PhilW

macrumors newbie
Jun 14, 2008
26
0
Birmingham, UK
A few years ago, I met a girl called XP. I wouldn't say we fell in love but we did become exceptionally fond of one another, and our relationship became very healthy and fulfilling. Over time though, I began to ask more and more of her but our relationship started to falter. She seemed to be getting tired and frequently lethargic, and the more baggage our relationship gathered the worse this would become. Sometimes we would pretend to start afresh but the old baggage would soon re-accumulate. Then, last summer, things became truly sour. I left her for another.

My new girl was called OS X, and this time it was love. So beautiful, lithe and easy to get along with. I never tired of looking at her, and she didn't have that deep underlying complexity that used to show itself when life with XP used to turn nasty.

When I heard that one of my friends had fallen for my old mistress I had pangs of jealousy, but it was soon clear that she had just tarted herself up like an old alcoholic. A load of heavy make up slapped onto the old girl wasn't fooling me. All fur coat and no knickers! She had taken on a new name too, Vista. The word on the street was that she was even more demanding than before, was still too slow and carried all the old baggage. From my cosy bed with OS X, all I could feel was pity.

Then one day I could a glimpse of my ex and it shocked me. She was certainly more pretty than I remembered, and lively too. The girl was now calling herself Seven and putting her self about for free. It seemed that she was pleasing all the boys. But when I looked deeper, I could still see the old hallmarks, the messy manners and scatter-brained logic that I used to loathe.

I'm happy with my new girl, OS X, and no amount of pricey makeovers are going to make me leave her.
 

63dot

macrumors 603
Jun 12, 2006
5,269
339
norcal
I have my Mac mini and a Power Mac and they are fine for me. I will get a small PC netbook for internet only and word processing, running XP, but I don't see a need in getting a PC with Windows 7.
 

Quillz

macrumors 65816
Jan 6, 2006
1,421
0
Los Angeles, CA
i too switched to mac recently got the new alu macbook 2.4ghz but honestly i never really left windows... had xp via bootcamp and got windows 7 ..very impressed so far... will install over xp and if it gets better by august i will definately buy and install on my mac. but if not, will downgrade but honestly i will never leave windows cause there are alot fo stuff i love and still use there. :)
I highly, highly doubt that Windows 7 will get any worse on its way to RTM. Look at how (mostly) well-received Beta 1 is. It can only really get better, honestly. It looks like it's finally time to retire Windows XP for good and replace it with Windows 7.

From what I've read, Windows 7 actually uses so fewer resources than Windows Vista that it can easily be installed on netbooks. I believe Engadget wrote an article about installing Windows 7 on the new Sony Vaio P netbooks.
 

Quillz

macrumors 65816
Jan 6, 2006
1,421
0
Los Angeles, CA
I have my Mac mini and a Power Mac and they are fine for me. I will get a small PC netbook for internet only and word processing, running XP, but I don't see a need in getting a PC with Windows 7.
I would recommend you try running Windows 7 on the netbook. I've read that the OS works very well on Intel's Atom processors.
 
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