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It's an art thing - if I can replace my sketchbook and phone with one device, I will. And a 6" phone would be a great size for drawing on.

Why not get a nexus 7 or ad mini then. Why compromise so much, do you really want to be holding a 6 inch device constantly let alone calling with it. Also I was referring to the 400 ppi and quad core statement because anything over 300 ppi won't make a difference atleast not a visible one without a microscope. ~300 is the most someone's eye can see. And yeah.... The s3 and most phones are quad core.... iPhone5 is faster than all of them in benchmarks and real life usage.
 

TacticalDesire

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Mar 19, 2012
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Do you guys and gals really buy new $200-$300 phones every 2 years?? That seems like a really HUGE expenditure to me. I can't justify it. Must be nice to have that disposable income.

$200-300 every 2 years really isn't that much. At all. If it's really that big of an issue, put away $10 a month for two years. At the end of the 2 years, you'll have $240. Or put all your change in a jar for 2 years and don't touch it or deposit it at the end of every month.
 

Irishman

macrumors 68040
Nov 2, 2006
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$200-300 every 2 years really isn't that much. At all. If it's really that big of an issue, put away $10 a month for two years. At the end of the 2 years, you'll have $240. Or put all your change in a jar for 2 years and don't touch it or deposit it at the end of every month.

Yeah, but you're unable to get other things if you're sacking away every extra penny for a phone.

But then again, I'm coming at this as a father of two 9 year-old boys, and they get every spare penny spent on them. :)
 

TacticalDesire

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Mar 19, 2012
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Yeah, but you're unable to get other things if you're sacking away every extra penny for a phone.

But then again, I'm coming at this as a father of two 9 year-old boys, and they get every spare penny spent on them. :)

Trust me, I know mow much kids can cost lol. And if you can't afford the $10 a month thing or putting change away, then by all means, don't upgrade every 2 years. I upgrade as I see fit and others should do the same and not feel pressured into keeping up with the Jones'. There's plenty of people Running iPhone 3GS's (4 years old in June) and even older. Lurk around on the Android forums and you'll see the same thing of people with sticking with older phones because they have no desire for a new one.
 

ravenvii

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Mar 17, 2004
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I usually MAKE money when I upgrade every two years.

Usually $20-$30 after all is said and done.

Why the hell would I NOT upgrade?

This is with iPhones, mind. I know how Android phones plummet in value so this strategy is probably not as effective with Android phones.
 

Irishman

macrumors 68040
Nov 2, 2006
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I usually MAKE money when I upgrade every two years.

Usually $20-$30 after all is said and done.

Why the hell would I NOT upgrade?

This is with iPhones, mind. I know how Android phones plummet in value so this strategy is probably not as effective with Android phones.

Care to share your strategy to a skeptical mind?
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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I usually MAKE money when I upgrade every two years.

Usually $20-$30 after all is said and done.

Why the hell would I NOT upgrade?

This is with iPhones, mind. I know how Android phones plummet in value so this strategy is probably not as effective with Android phones.

Care to share your strategy to a skeptical mind?

No strategy involved, other than to take good care of your devices and purchase them subsidized. I've made money on EVERY iPhone (dating back to the original) I've sold as well, most at least a year old. In fact, getting ready to sell my iPhone 5 and will likely make quite a bit more.

Also made about $50 on my Nexus 4 and very nearly broke even with my Galaxy Nexus. Desirable phones keep their value very well.
 
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Irishman

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Really? $10/month, or $0.30-0.40 a day is too much? I'm sorry but unless you have the mother of all super affordable mobile phone plans, this a pittance compared to what you actually spend on your monthly bill.

If $10/month is excessive in your household, probably should pass on the mobile phone entirely.

Don't be judgmental, guy. Not everyone has the same priorities, but Jeez, it's not as if we have no mobile phones in our home! My wife has an HTC One, and I have the old and busted HP Blackberry clone.
 

TacticalDesire

macrumors 68020
Mar 19, 2012
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Care to share your strategy to a skeptical mind?

Unsubsidized iPhone: $650 (no contract)
Subsidized iPhone: $200 (with 2 year agreement)

Going price of used, out of contract iPhone after two years: $250 (give or take)

Step 1.) Buy Subsidized iPhone
Step 2.) Sell iPhone on ebay after contract is up.
Step 3.) Profit

At worst you'd break even.
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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Don't be judgmental, guy. Not everyone has the same priorities, but Jeez, it's not as if we have no mobile phones in our home! My wife has an HTC One, and I have the old and busted HP Blackberry clone.

I apologize if I came across as judgmental of your choices--not my intention and I should've chosen my words more carefully--post deleted. How someone chooses to spend their hard earned money is certainly entirely up to them.
 

ChrisTX

macrumors 68030
Dec 30, 2009
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Texas
With how much money I've invested in apps, movies, songs, etc from Apple/iTunes there is no way I'll move to another eco-system. There isn't THAT much difference between them all to make me move.

I said the same thing, until I switched. :cool:
 

Awakener

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Mar 28, 2011
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iOS does need more features and customization, but it can be argued that "stale" is good (mature and stable). If instability and malware bring back excitement then switch!
 

Mackan

macrumors 65816
Sep 16, 2007
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iOS does need more features and customization, but it can be argued that "stale" is good (mature and stable). If instability and malware bring back excitement then switch!

Instability and malware do not bring back excitement. :rolleyes: Cherry picking much?
 

0dev

macrumors 68040
Dec 22, 2009
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Yeah, but you're unable to get other things if you're sacking away every extra penny for a phone.

But then again, I'm coming at this as a father of two 9 year-old boys, and they get every spare penny spent on them. :)

Ah see, the real trick here is to not have kids and enjoy all the extra disposable income :p
 

tekno

macrumors 6502a
Oct 15, 2011
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Unsubsidized iPhone: $650 (no contract)
Subsidized iPhone: $200 (with 2 year agreement)

Going price of used, out of contract iPhone after two years: $250 (give or take)

Step 1.) Buy Subsidized iPhone
Step 2.) Sell iPhone on ebay after contract is up.
Step 3.) Profit

At worst you'd break even.

Except you're totally ignoring the increased cost of the monthly payments.

In the UK at least, a contract with a subsidised phone is, say, £45 per month for two years. Buying my phone outright means I pay £12.50 per month with no contract. The phone may be £300 cheaper, but over two years, the network cost is £780 greater.

All things considered, I'm sure it's way cheaper to buy the phone non-subsidised.
 
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TacticalDesire

macrumors 68020
Mar 19, 2012
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Except you're totally ignoring the increased cost of the monthly payments.

In the UK at least, a contract with a subsidised phone is, say, £45 per month for two years. Buying my phone outright means I pay £12.50 per month with no contract.

All things considered, I'm sure it's way cheaper to buy the phone non-subsidised.

I'm well aware of the payments. I make them. I was simply talking about the cost of the phone itself as he asked how people could afford to get a new phone every 2 years. I'm sure its not his first phone and I doubt its his first smartphone so I'm sure he knows about the payments
 
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ChrisTX

macrumors 68030
Dec 30, 2009
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Texas
Same, but I switched from Android to iOS. Can't see myself going back.

I still think iOS is a great platform. I've had the iPhone since day 1, and after my contract was up with my iPhone 4 I just felt, that I wanted something different. You've gotta stick with the platform, and device that makes you happy.
 

0dev

macrumors 68040
Dec 22, 2009
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I still think iOS is a great platform. I've had the iPhone since day 1, and after my contract was up with my iPhone 4 I just felt, that I wanted something different. You've gotta stick with the platform, and device that makes you happy.

Since I see in your signature that you have the Nexus 4 and Galaxy S3, which do you think is better? I'm trying to decide between the two myself.
 

tekno

macrumors 6502a
Oct 15, 2011
840
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I'm well aware of the payments. I make them. I was simply talking about the cost of the phone itself as he asked how people could afford to get a new phone every 2 years.

Don't mean to argue, but your original suggestion of making profit makes no sense. For example:

With a subsidised phone: £199 for phone + £45 per month = £1,279 over two years.

Buying phone outright: £499 for phone + £12.50 per month = £799 over two years.

Getting a subsidised phone costs £480 more. How is that making profit?!

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Why the hell would I NOT upgrade?

Because by not upgrading you come out of contract and can therefore move to a much cheaper monthly tariff.
 

TacticalDesire

macrumors 68020
Mar 19, 2012
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Michigan
Don't mean to argue, but your original suggestion of making profit makes no sense. For example:

With a subsidised phone: £199 for phone + £45 per month = £1,279 over two years.

Buying phone outright: £499 for phone + £12.50 per month = £799 over two years.

Getting a subsidised phone costs £480 more. How is that making profit?!
I'm talking profit on the phone itself. The plan plays no factor whatsoever. I chose using subsidized in my example because that's the route most people go here. They buy a phone on a 2 year contract and upgrade every two years as their contract expires. I think you're over thinking things. I'm talking about the cost of buying and selling the phone. Which was the original question. It obviously works as a lot of people do that on the boards and elsewhere. Monthly plan Prices are different across the pond as well
 

tekno

macrumors 6502a
Oct 15, 2011
840
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I'm talking profit on the phone itself. The plan plays no factor whatsoever.

Not arguing, just trying to understand.

How can you talk about profit on the phone when, by subsidised, the phone is bundled with the contract (in other words, the monthly payments are covering that subsidy - plus a lot more).

The same resale value applies to the unsubsidised phone (in fact it may be higher as the unsubsidised phone wouldn't be locked to a network).

Ignoring the entire cost (phone + monthly subs) is very foolish.
 

ChrisTX

macrumors 68030
Dec 30, 2009
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Texas
Since I see in your signature that you have the Nexus 4 and Galaxy S3, which do you think is better? I'm trying to decide between the two myself.

For me personally I like the GS3 better. Simply because LTE is a compromise I thought at first I could make(going years without it) but realize after having it, that it's a tough trade off. I absolutely LOVE the Nexus 4. The user experience is second to none. It's just buttery smooth, and pure vanilla Android is second to none. However, I realized that in real world usage that I really missed LTE. For most people that don't have great LTE coverage like we do in Texas, I'd say go with the Nexus 4. The only trade off there would be non expandable storage(user replaceable battery has never been a selling point for me). The only problem I face, is that I can't seem to part with my Nexus 4. The user experience is just too good to let go of, and I find my sim card making it's way back in the N4 for a few days every so often. Hope that helps. :cool:
 
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