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godbout

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Jun 22, 2005
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berkleeboy210 said:
Makes me wonder.... Should I buy a 12" PB now, and a iMac G5 Now (the new one) which would equal the cost of a 17" PB (with edu discounts) and then just save up for the Intels?

If I were you I would get the 12"iBook and then the 20" iMac (or 17" and pocket $500) that would be pretty sweet. If you had the power of the iMac then you get a little portable iBook for on the go... that would be a pretty sweet set-up. I don't think that i would be buying a 12"PB anytime real soon... An idea anyways
 

brepublican

macrumors 6502a
Jul 22, 2005
812
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NY
iDM said:
If this was a first time purchase of an Apple Comp I'd say yes, but I have a 1.25 ghz 15" and besides the High Def monitor, i don't feel like i'm missing much. They have upgraded the vid card since mine and they have updated the processor(not by much, or at least not by what should be proportional), but I don't think it should have taken them 2 years to get to this point. I mean if you put it in terms like that, I bought a Rev. A(was a regret since i had the white spots) and the fastest 15" that was available was 1.25ghz. After 2 YEARS they have only made it to 1.67 and it's taken them that long to adopt better quality monitors? I have gotten 2 solid years out of this thing and I still don't desire this new one.
Good point.
 

generik

macrumors 601
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Aug 5, 2005
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Well.. since the last last update in January I told myself I will get a PB when it gets a 7448 or equivalent in..

Since that criteria has not been met.. while it does look somewhat a sweeter deal now.. but nah, my current Centrino laptop is so much better.

I've been waiting to switch for quite a while, but I certainly don't want to switch right into a machine that has just so much headroom left to it.

MWSF for me then :)

Next Janurary might bring some surprises
 

plinkoman

macrumors 65816
Jul 2, 2003
1,144
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New York
i know i'll definately be getting one, i am certainly not going to wait any longer.

besides, the brighter, higher resolution display, dual layer superdrive, better battery life, and a 7200rpm hard drive sounds like a pretty good update to me givin the circumstances
 

Flyinace2000

macrumors 6502a
Sep 28, 2004
666
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plinkoman said:
i know i'll definately be getting one, i am certainly not going to wait any longer.

besides, the brigher higher resolution display, dual layer superdrive, better battery life, and a 7200rpm hard drive sounds like a pretty good update to me givin the circumstances


I bought my current PowerBook 20 minutes after they were introduced in April. I maxed it out cause i knew i wanted it to last for 3 years. Even after todays announcement i am not even tempted to sell and buy a new one.


OK I am a little tempted....
 

generik

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Aug 5, 2005
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I will be waiting for the very same reason why the currently available 7448 is not used in this revision, or why there is no AC charger with the new video iPods..

It's a rip off, plain and simple.

Apple is more interested in pinching pennies than delivering good products.
 

cyberdoc

macrumors newbie
Oct 5, 2005
3
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Goodbye Apple

For the last 2 months, hung onto every word on this forum and elsewhere in the hope the wait for an upgraded 12" PB would be worthwhile. And yes, I will admit that I got caught up in the cult of Mac (loving every moment of it) with my work hours sucked dry refreshing the pages on these forums and the "next Tuesday" hopes, and literally having dreams about the upgrade :eek: . Unfortunately (ducking/wincing for anticipated flames), even the lustrous OS X was not enough to recognize the legacy dinasour the 12" PB is now (with it's own quirk, which we all know) and so badly disowned by Steve. So goodbye friends. I'm off to buy this baby:
http://tinyurl.com/dg2zg
The Sony VAIO TX
:cool:

LOL, just read the byline for the TX: "An ultraportable ... that performs while it impresses"... sorry, but surely you have to admit that for a Pro notebook the 12" PB was not able to deliver anymore with these specs (though will always impress me)... forgive me, but I'm in a really bad "wanted to switch, but got burnt" funk at the moment :mad:
 

Deepdale

macrumors 68000
May 4, 2005
1,965
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New York
iSaint said:
If I had the money I'd buy a 15" PB now, with the biggest harddrive possible. If I had a job, I'd have the money. I don't know what it is about my wife wanting me to get a job.

What will wives ask of their husbands next? :)
 

Demon Hunter

macrumors 68020
Mar 30, 2004
2,284
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cyberdoc said:
For the last 2 months, hung onto every word on this forum and elsewhere in the hope the wait for an upgraded 12" PB would be worthwhile. And yes, I will admit that I got caught up in the cult of Mac (loving every moment of it) with my work hours sucked dry refreshing the pages on these forums and the "next Tuesday" hopes, and literally having dreams about the upgrade :eek: . Unfortunately (ducking/wincing for anticipated flames), even the lustrous OS X was not enough to recognize the legacy dinasour the 12" PB is now (with it's own quirk, which we all know) and so badly disowned by Steve. So goodbye friends. I'm off to buy this baby:
http://tinyurl.com/dg2zg
The Sony VAIO TX
:cool:

LOL, just read the byline for the TX: "An ultraportable ... that performs while it impresses"... sorry, but surely you have to admit that for a Pro notebook the 12" PB was not able to deliver anymore with these specs (though will always impress me)... forgive me, but I'm in a really bad "wanted to switch, but got burnt" funk at the moment :mad:

Wow, can't say I blame you. That is a fine ultra-portable. Carbon fiber composite! Integrated graphics though, ouch.
 

Beck446

macrumors regular
Jul 16, 2003
133
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Actually, it's really not too bad of an update considering that, at least for the 15", standard updates have the more expensive model dropped to the least expensive model, with another more expensive model added. What we have here is the more expensive 1.67 model dropped to the least expensive model, which is standard, but with some extras like a better screen and battery. Of course, we don't have a more expensive model added, but if your standard is to buy the lesser of the 15", then you are doing pretty well.
 

zooey74

macrumors newbie
Oct 19, 2005
7
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Hi folks, my first post here.

I will be buying one. I've needed some portability for a while now and decided recently to get a 15" PB. The update is just icing on the cake for me. I can see how those who have been waiting on pins and needles for months for an update would be disappointed, but it comes as a pleasant surprise to me.
 

Duff-Man

Contributor
Dec 26, 2002
2,984
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Albuquerque, NM
Duff-Man says.....sometimes I cannot believe the whiners around here. Don't you think that if Apple could put faster G4's or newer rev G4's in the Powerbooks they would? Of course they would. But they can't do that if Moto/Freescale can't supply them. They've added bigger screens, dual layer burners as standard, digital audio ports on the 15" and all the other (yes, somewhat minor) improvements *and* lowered the prices a few hundred $$$.

Sure, we'd all love more and more and more.....but all too often you people get all wound up in the hype and take someone's "dream post" here as some solid evidence of what is to come, then start whining when it doesn't come true....I've seen it here SO many times it is not even funny anymore...oh yeah!
 

sshambles

macrumors 6502a
Oct 19, 2005
767
1,129
Australia
I'm buying one. 12'' PB. Am getting 512mb ram from a mate when he gets a new 1g chip. He's selling it for $50aus. Been running it since march. Is this a wise idea? Or do chips have a lifespan? :confused:
 

Demon Hunter

macrumors 68020
Mar 30, 2004
2,284
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sshambles said:
I'm buying one. 12'' PB. Am getting 512mb ram from a mate when he gets a new 1g chip. He's selling it for $50aus. Been running it since march. Is this a wise idea? Or do chips have a lifespan? :confused:

Should be fine. RAM lasts a good long time. :)
 

generik

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Aug 5, 2005
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I have to admit the discount is really a major "suckering" addition.. but I really would love to see Apple add an additional "higher end" model instead of downgrading the higher end range to standard.

Let's hope a new line is released in the (near) future! :rolleyes:
 

iEdd

macrumors 68000
Aug 8, 2005
1,956
4
It's a marketing ploy. They want the pbs to squeeze the credit cards.. This minor update was at minimal cost but to squeeze some more dough. The surprise January early unveiling of intel powerbooks will surely sell like hotcakes too. ;)
Okay, no-one knows that for sure, but I think it is likely that pbs will be first.
 

FFTT

macrumors 68030
Apr 17, 2004
2,952
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A Stoned Throw From Ground Zero
I think the price reductions were long overdue, but
now the blend of some improvements with a price drop will very likely have many more people opting for a 15" 1.67 GHz PB. over the 12"

I still like the 12" PB for it's portability and consider
DVI out an essential for any machine this size.
Even so, I feel Apple really needed to improve the video support on this model or drop the price another $100.
It's still a great little machine for $1399 compared to
6 months ago.

Those of you maxing out one of these Powerbooks should be aware that they will be running very warm
especially with larger and faster Hard Drives and the
128 MB VRAM.

If you simply must have a portable as your primary
desktop replacement, then the 15" 1.67 really is the best choice @ $1799 education

The 12" PB combined with a good external display
would still be another good option.

For someone like me who already has a great desktop, I'm thinking of getting the 12" PowerBook
simply because I want the DVI out option to my 24" Dell, otherwise a 12" iBook would be fine.

At $2148 education,
the new 17" WS iMac G5/12"iBook combo would be a great setup for those who need portablity but also want better performance than the Powerbooks offer.
 

kimchimonkey

macrumors newbie
Aug 24, 2005
12
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rational thoughts

A month ago I was waiting for a powerbook update. I got sick of waiting and the fact that they didnt' update it pissed me off. I saw a used Dell latitude X1 (nice pc laptop 2.5lbs etc ) and picked it up instead. Well after a month I sold it recently. luckily I didn't take a loss. I'm defintely getting a powerbook 12" this time around. I haven't had a mac, but from my experiences with ipod and a shuffle and a lot of other people who tell me how great OSX is, powerbooks are still well built machines. They are fine and with the price drop its a solid machine. Of course it would have been nice to have better updates, but it runs fine right now for the tasks I need. Not to mention its design and ergonomics (full size keyboard, a small power cable, etc).
 

pigwin32

macrumors regular
Aug 27, 2003
227
1
Oakura
I swore I wouldn't buy a new 15" until it had a decent chip in it, one which didn't have a crippled FSB. The other stuff I was looking for is all there right now, a higher resolution display, Dual layer DVD, bigger disk. I'm going to think seriously about this one, I'm tapping away on a TiBook 667 so I would get a GHz of extra performance.

Plus I'm not convinced the first gen MacTel will be all that terrific. Apple is going to want to deliver product as soon as possible to sate the pent up demand for the higher speed procs. Plus they're moving to a completely new processor and chipset. So on one side the driver is to get something shipping and on the other is a bunch of engineers' first attempt at a MacTel product. To me that sounds like a recipe for trouble.

I don't know if I would rule out another G4 PB refresh before the MacTel. Apple was probably keen to get the 7448 into the PB and if it truly is a drop in replacement that could still be an option.
 

generik

macrumors 601
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Aug 5, 2005
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I really can't help but question why the 7448 didn't make it into this update where it is so needed.

My suspicion? Perhaps Apple still has a large inventory of G4 1.5/1.67 processors that it'd want to clear out before getting better chips.

Look at the Mac Mini.. currently consuming the old 1.42/1.5 chips.. and the new PBs..

Could this be the next mac rumor? :D
 

chaosbunny

macrumors 68020
Bern said:
Nope, I'm hanging out for a 2nd or 3rd revision Mactel Powerbook.

Wow, you must really not need one at all. That's about 2-3 years you're talking about... if you don't need one until then, why buy one any way?

Well, I'm very happy with my 15 incher bought back in april. More than 6 months old and still the fastest powerbook around, hurray!!
:D
 

cheekyspanky

macrumors 6502a
Jan 21, 2004
633
1
South Bucks, UK
epepper9 said:
The surprise January early unveiling of intel powerbooks will surely sell like hotcakes too. ;)

I think we're building up for a big disappointment come January! Would be nice though :)

My sister got a new PB 15" about a month ago, these latest updates haven't been a huge leap so she's still happy. She managed to spill water on it the other day though so maybe she'll get a new one sooner rather than later if it ends up breaking!
 

bursty

macrumors 65816
Jan 31, 2004
1,002
5
I was ready to upgrade to a new 12" PB but obviously that didnt work out. Now, I'm *this* close to selling my current PB and picking up either a dual core 2.3 or a used 2.5 PM that are being sold for the new Quad. Hmm decisions decisions...
 

GroundLoop

macrumors 68000
Mar 21, 2003
1,586
62
There is no way that I am buying one of the "new" powerbooks. This crappy update definitely means that the they will be switched to Yonah early next year. I cannot wait for that day to arrive.

Hickman
 

cal6n

macrumors 68020
Jul 25, 2004
2,096
273
Gloucester, UK
epepper9 said:
It's a marketing ploy. They want the pbs to squeeze the credit cards.. This minor update was at minimal cost but to squeeze some more dough. The surprise January early unveiling of intel powerbooks will surely sell like hotcakes too. ;)
Okay, no-one knows that for sure, but I think it is likely that pbs will be first.

Yeah. It does look like the PB line is being set up as the first Intel "casualty"
 
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