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Will you buy the new Mac Pro it's full closed with SoC - Not modular ?


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MisterAndrew

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Sep 15, 2015
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Sorry to reiterate.. I blow the dust out of my old MacPro every six months or so. A lot of dust... maybe it's just me.

The Mac Studio doesn't offer user access for that purpose.
Yes I can tear it down and break the warrantee, but I'm not inclined to do that.

New MacPro should have easy access to the innards.
I want to open it and at least be able to access some upgradable components.
Pci slots... SSD slots...
SOC swappable...

Probably not, but at least let me open the darn thing.

I agree. That's a big failure for the Studio. It should have had a cover that comes off with the flip of a switch to access the inside like the 2013 & 2019 Mac Pros. Apple should have made the storage upgradeable too, even if it was only available from them. $6k is a steep entry price for the ability to upgrade anything at all post purchase.
 

subjonas

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Feb 10, 2014
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All they need to do is put the SoC on a card that can be swapped out to replace it and thus perform processor upgrades. If the SoC allows it, they could have more than one slot for such cards, just like many systems now have multiple CPU sockets.

There is practically no chance they could offer external memory separately from the processor and have it perform at anywhere near the speeds that the memory can reach while inside the chip - plus the type of memory that would allow for use by both the CPU and GPU with the level of efficiency that they are reaching would be quite expensive as an external card to begin with - so if they do offer the option to add memory outside the chips, I would expect it to be additional to memory on the chips themselves and to be used either NUMA style or (perhaps even more likely) as an earlier stage of swap space before going out to the even slower disks.

I see no issue with storage being made modular while still using the SoC, nor with including a few PCIe slots in such a design.

While the CPU, GPU and memory (at least the "fast" memory) will almost certainly be tied together, they could be "upgraded" together as a unit by making the SoC swappable, and everything else could still be "modular".

My guess for the new Mac Pro would probably be something along those lines.
Sounds like this could happen, except I wonder how much an upgraded SoC with CPU, GPU, and RAM would cost. Very expensive, I’m sure. Could it make up a majority of the cost of the Mac?
Then there’s the issue of what to do with the old SoC. Unless it’s really really old, it’s probably too valuable to keep it lying around unused. Does it get traded in for a discount on the new SoC? How big of a market would there be to try to sell it?
 

Random_Matt

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Mar 21, 2022
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Potential GPU expansion, that's it. You guys are going to be disappointed, wonder why people would commit to Apple for one line of their products. Ultimate expansion = Windows always has and always will.
 
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randy85

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Oct 3, 2020
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Big brain moment - if there is some kind of upgradable memory and storage; and most of the cost of the rest is the SoC, then couldn't you consider the case, soc, motherboard to be a "module" that you upgrade periodically?

It feels unlikely that you'll be able to freely plug in new CPUs and GPUs if thats what people mean by modular.

Everyone who is gonna get mad that you can't put an AMD card in there is probably too busy eating crayons for it to matter anyway.
 

EvilMonk

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Aug 28, 2006
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I have 2 Apple silicon Mac (M1 Mini 16/1Tb) and a 16” m1 max mbp 32c/32gb 1Tb… I just got a 2013 Mac Pro I’m upgrading with a Sonnet DuoModo, an RX 6800XT eGPU, an External SAS PCIe card to connect my 16x3Tb 7.2k SAS Hitachi 6Gb NAS, 64Gb DDR3 1866 and a USB C 3.2 gen 2x2 card. I’m going to be fine for a while…
 
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