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danysl

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There seems to be some scenarios where face id would have to be disabled.

Let's say for instance wearing a halloween costume, using strange sunglasses, having something on your face like bandages maybe or a scuba mask. I don't know what else but people use their phones everywhere nowadays.

Do you guys think it could be a deal breaker?
 

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There seems to be some scenarios where face id would have to be disabled.

Let's say for instance wearing a halloween costume, using strange sunglasses, having something on your face like bandages maybe or a scuba mask. I don't know what else but people use their phones everywhere nowadays.

Do you guys think it could be a deal breaker?

There is no deal breaker unless somebody wasn't interested in it And Face ID can resort to a passcode if somebody needed it. It Has to have a failsafe as it is.
 
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Vermifuge

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There seems to be some scenarios where face id would have to be disabled.

Let's say for instance wearing a halloween costume, using strange sunglasses, having something on your face like bandages maybe or a scuba mask. I don't know what else but people use their phones everywhere nowadays.

Do you guys think it could be a deal breaker?

Just like Touch ID, if it fails yo enter your passcode. You have to enter your password every so often any way. Like after restarting or after a certain number of hours / days etc.

That said glasses or a bandage shouldn’t be a problem for the machine learning. If you are covering your face it may be an issue.
 

joeblow7777

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There seems to be some scenarios where face id would have to be disabled.

Let's say for instance wearing a halloween costume, using strange sunglasses, having something on your face like bandages maybe or a scuba mask. I don't know what else but people use their phones everywhere nowadays.

Do you guys think it could be a deal breaker?

You wouldn’t have to disable it, just use your passcode in that particular instance.
 
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Oliveira46

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Because they want Apple to fail. So they spend every waking moment dreaming up 0.1% scenarios that would “prove” they do.

It's like when touch-ID launched...

"uhh... they are going to send my fingerprint to FBI"

"uhhh.. my girlfriend can mutilate my finger and unlock my phone!!!"

in 2017 the cops are going to steal your phone and point it to your face... lol
 
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Arran

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The thread title intrigued me. I thought this was going to be about privacy or employer-mandated disabling of face ID. You know, for employees that work in secure/confidential environments.

Forgive my oversimplification, but face ID uses camera that turns itself on, yes? Does anyone outside of Apple know how much of the surroundings that camera takes in?

Or, looking at just the users’ personal privacy; take webcams built into laptops. In every office I visit, the webcams are taped over by their users. People don’t like being watched (or just the possibility of being watched).

This might be why Apple launched both the iPhone 8 and iPhone X together? Let the market decide, perhaps?
 

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The thread title intrigued me. I thought this was going to be about privacy or employer-mandated disabling of face ID. You know, for employees that work in secure/confidential environments.

Forgive my oversimplification, but face ID uses camera that turns itself on, yes? Does anyone outside of Apple know how much of the surroundings that camera takes in?

Or, looking at just the users’ personal privacy; take webcams built into laptops. In every office I visit, the webcams are taped over by their users. People don’t like being watched (or just the possibility of being watched).

This might be why Apple launched both the iPhone 8 and iPhone X together? Let the market decide, perhaps?

It doesn’t use a camera, it uses an array of infrared dots, hence it works in even complete darkness. So it’s not like it’s taking a picture of you or your environment.
 

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It's like when Face-ID launched...

"uhh... they are going to send my fingerprint to FBI"

"uhhh.. my girlfriend can mutilate my finger and unlock my phone!!!"

in 2017 the cops are going to steal your phone and point it to your face... lol

Actually meant touch ID
 
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wolfedude88

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While I truly believe Touch ID is more convenient and I think I’ll like it more than face Id it doesn’t mean I’m not going to like face id. I feel like people are just ready to bash it for no reason.

Did people disable Touch ID because they washed their hands or were going to be by a pool and their fingerprints wouldn’t work for a short time? Or it was raining or too cold out and they had clothes on?

Nope you can just enter the password during those moments just like when face id isn’t going to work for a certain situation.

Both have pros and cons. And I know some people like my wife who has never used Touch ID and probably won’t use face id because she doesn’t care to use a passcode.
 
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I wonder if it has retina scanning.

It's just the missus wakes up and she's all normal looking, but before she leaves the house she's all make-up'd. The difference between the two is vast.
 

Freakonomics101

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I'm just seeing Face ID as a beta right now, for the next twelve months. Authorities can grab your phone and put it to your face to unlock it, like someone else mentioned. I'm not convinced by Apple to like it. I am sticking with Touch ID.
 
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akash.nu

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I wonder if Face ID will work for the mummy.

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joeblow7777

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I wonder if it has retina scanning.

It's just the missus wakes up and she's all normal looking, but before she leaves the house she's all make-up'd. The difference between the two is vast.

I don't believe it scans retinas, but no make-up is going to change the structure and measurements of a person's face.
 

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There seems to be some scenarios where face id would have to be disabled.

Let's say for instance wearing a halloween costume, using strange sunglasses, having something on your face like bandages maybe or a scuba mask. I don't know what else but people use their phones everywhere nowadays.

Do you guys think it could be a deal breaker?

If you are concerned about this use case, than FaceID is definitely not for you.
 
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