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Well id like to have LTE. AT&T has the 830? T-Mobile hasnt gotton any Windows phones since the 925.

I was just looking at the supported LTE bands for the 830. In my knowledge T-Mobile currently primarily uses Band 4 (1700/2100MHz) to deliver LTE. The 830 supports Band 4 so I'd think the 830 would work with T-Mobile. I don't see why it wouldn't support LTE with T-Mobile.

GSM bands are confusing (to say the least) so I'm sorry in advance if I'm not right.
 

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I was just looking at the supported LTE bands for the 830. In my knowledge T-Mobile currently primarily uses Band 4 (1700/2100MHz) to deliver LTE. The 830 supports Band 4 so I'd think the 830 would work with T-Mobile. I don't see why it wouldn't support LTE with T-Mobile.

GSM bands are confusing (to say the least) so I'm sorry in advance if I'm not right.

I just looked into this more and let's just say there is a lot of confusion regarding this phone and which model's will and won't work with LTE.

Based off my reading the RM-985 model will work with LTE band 4 frequencies on T-Mobile, but it might actually be HSPA+ speeds, depending on refarming of tower upgrades in your area? Also, portions of Band 4 are getting pushed to Band 2 on TMo and at the same time TMo is adding in Band 12 (700mhz) for low frequency building penetration. (Most phones won't have Band 12, not even the iphone.)

As confusing as all of that is, bottom line, some people online say you get LTE and some say just HSPA+, even though it says LTE? I don't know, cause I don't own one.
 

maflynn

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I'm curious, how do you like the 830? I've currently got a Lumia 635 as my main "Windows Phone" device and I'm looking to update to something better in the near future.

Its a good serviceable phone. Performance is decent, my iPhone 6 plus is faster, but the 830 is decent. I'll get a sim card so my kids will use it, but then I keep popping in my sim card from the iPhone 6 :)
 

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Its a good serviceable phone. Performance is decent, my iPhone 6 plus is faster, but the 830 is decent. I'll get a sim card so my kids will use it, but then I keep popping in my sim card from the iPhone 6 :)

What carrier do you have? I assume its AT&T since you use a SIM card.
 

maflynn

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What carrier do you have? I assume its AT&T since you use a SIM card.

Yep, ATT :)

I'm about to downgrade the OS back to 8.1, it just too buggy for me at the moment. While the Lumia is not my daily driver, it still just to buggy to deal with.

Thurrott said it best in his quick look of windows 10
Lots of changes, still a freaking mess. Speaking generally, there is a ton of change in this build. But it is very much still a mess, with mismatched UIs that blend the old and the new. It’s particularly bad on the Lumia 1520, where many UI pieces—like the virtual keyboard—just don’t seem to “fit” correctly onscreen.

I’ve received a lot of questions regarding using this build on daily use phones. I recommend against that, even with just a little bit of experience using it. The build is buggy, a visual mess, and incomplete. And certain problems in this build—there’s no Office, OneDrive backup of photos might break, and some networking features can’t be disabled—all indicate this isn’t for the faint of heart.
 

MRU

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My 930 has just got windows 10.... More new fun

OK new fun over ----- it's broken horribly on the 930. Avoid avoid avoid for the moment.
 
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However, there are some migration issues if you are upgrading from an earlier preview build of Windows 10 for phones to the new 10080 build. Here's what you might run into, according to Aul

  • After upgrading, you may see duplicate tiles for apps like Search and Phone under All Apps.
  • "Pending" may show under some apps after upgrade and those apps are unresponsive. Restarting the phone will clear the pending flag and the apps should work.
  • All data and settings for apps installed on a SD card do not get migrated and you cannot launch these apps or install them again. Workaround is to uninstall then reinstall these apps.
  • The old email app will still show up after upgrade in All Apps list with "Error" text displayed and cannot be removed. This app also shows up banged out on the Start screen if it was pinned previously. It can simply be unpinned to remove.


Aul also listed a number of other problems with the 10080 preview build


  • When upgrading from Windows Phone 8.1 to this build, even if you have your cellular data connection turned on, it will get turned off during upgrade. Go to Settings > Network & wireless > Cellular and SIM to turn it back on.
  • VERY IMPORTANT: there is a condition in which you may never receive MMS messages. Usually when someone sends you a MMS message and your phone's cellular data connection is turned off, you will receive a "Get message" link in the text thread from the sender, allowing you to download the message once you turn your cellular data back on. There is a bug in which this link is not received in this case and the MMS message is completely lost. To ensure MMS messages are not lost, be sure to turn cellular data on (via Settings > Network & wireless > Cellular & SIM > Data connection). This issue will occur any time your cellular data connection is turned off in this build.
  • If you are in a region where Cortana is enabled (US, China, UK, France, Italy, Germany, or Spain) and you have changed the default shipping language on your phone – please ensure that your region, language, and speech settings are restored to their default values before initiating the update. This is required in order to avoid a bug that will cause Cortana/Search to repeatedly crash.
  • After upgrade, uninstalling an app may not remove it from the All Apps list. Usually restarting your device resolves this issue.
  • Playback of movies and TV may fail with error 0x8004c029 in the Video Preview app. If it does, go here to learn more about how to fix it.
  • After upgrading, the Twitter app may crash on launch. If you uninstall and reinstall the app, it should work.
  • Auto-update for apps is not enabled in this build for apps installed via Store Beta. You will have to manually check for updates.
  • After upgrading from Build 10052, the Insider Hub still does not launch. However, if you upgrade from Windows Phone 8.1 the Insider Hub should now launch.
 

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My 930 has just got windows 10.... More new fun

OK new fun over ----- it's broken horribly on the 930. Avoid avoid avoid for the moment.

It was horribly broken on the dev preview when it first came out. My 925 is nearly useless. I'm not gonna bother updating anymore until Microsoft gives us a stable version of 10.
 

maflynn

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The dev preview is just unusable in the state its in. I had it on my 830 for a while but had to take it off.
 
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