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Windows 10 is getting some good reviews
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Could be. As I say mine took hours to download but did eventually install properly without a hitch. I did the upgrade install. As were both on the latest parallels - it should work the same for you.. 'theory'
The only computer of ours that messed up was an ageing 21.5" 2008 iMac which kept messing up with it installed, so that has been rolled back to Mavericks and is thankfully stable and without issues on that.
After a couple of days with Win 10 I returned to Win 7. I guess I got up with the Novelty of Win 10--like I kid with a new toy that loses interest after a couple of days.
Windows 7>Windows XP>Windows10>Windows 98 SP2>Windows Vista>Windows 8.1>Windows 95>Windows 3.1>Windows ME p.s. (best Mac OS = Tiger)
I can't stand all the black and white and everything is so boxy. And it's not the real start menu that we are used to. Less customizable and still forcing tiles in our face. When I pin a program to the start menu it's a live tile. Live Tiles should be dead on a desktop OS.
The multiple desktop implementation is a gimmick. The copycat Expose is about the only thing I like about it. Glad they brought back Win 7s snap windows to corners and it's recovery options, but I really missed Aero Glass. I know it uses more resources but today's computers can easily handle it. It was very easy on the eyes.
Windows Universal Apps are going to work--developers will just develop for the web. Microsoft seems to be retreating from the mobile market so why not just stick with the mature Win 32 API?
The Navy just paid Microsoft $20,000,000 to continue to support XP for them.
For Hybrid device users Win 10 is less touch friendly so they aren't happy. So with Windows 8 MS pissed off desktop users. Win 10 pisses off touch users.
No more media center. Media center reminds me of Apple TV. Not in their implementation, but they both had opportunities to be big hits yet received little support.
No more guest account.
When is MS going to learn you one platform for everything doesn't work? Both Windows 8 and Windows 10 are a result of Microsoft being very late once again to current technologies. Look how long it took them to bring the Zune to market. Then they did the same with mobile and the desktop users are paying the price for Microsoft's mistakes.
And updates aren't optional on Windows 10. You can only choose to delay them for a specific amount of time! And I have this horrible feeling we are going to see advertisements in the fake Start Menu and system tray. My friend did a Windows update on his 8.1 machine and now Skype is stuck on his dock. This is Microsoft's future.
Steve Balmer--you may be a billionaire, but you are still an idiot.
PS: Doesn't the Macrumors redesigned site remind you of Windows 10?
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What do people think about the privacy issues in Windows 10? Mozilla is complaining about the default browser being Edge (which MS chose to do in spite of the fact that MS go into a lot of trouble re: the anti-trust laws when they made Explorer the default browser). Also, it sounds like MS is collecting a lot of information (contacts, e-mails, texts, 'and more') and potentially passing it on to other companies. Also, using the bandwidth of users to distribute updates, rather like Tor, seems to me to be a wonderful way of distributing malicious code if it gets hacked.
I wonder if MS is going the way of Google - where information about the user's details and on-line activities is the product. In general, it seems to me that we are reaching a stage at which OS's will only work if the user allows cloud services, which in fact is just another way of collecting information about users.
FWIW - I like MS products and was very enthusiastic about Win 10 until I heard what the licence actually entails in terms of privacy.
I wonder if MS is going the way of Google - where information about the user's details and on-line activities is the product. In general, it seems to me that we are reaching a stage at which OS's will only work if the user allows cloud services, which in fact is just another way of collecting information about users.
FWIW - I like MS products and was very enthusiastic about Win 10 until I heard what the licence actually entails in terms of privacy.
And all of these things are things you can turn off. So they have a leg up on Google in that respect.
Regarding the browser, I'm not sure how it's a privacy issue. On anti-competitiveness, I kind of wonder if MS is poking the regulators & the industry. A discussion of whether MS is being anti-competitive with the Edge Browser will surely bring up a discussion of whether Google is being anti-competitive on mobile with their insistence on bundling all Google apps in order to get the Play Store on Android devices. This would be in Microsoft's interest.
Regarding passing data onto others. I haven't heard this. Where did you read it?
Yes I have already started the habit of disabling that tracking stuff post installation, along with p2p updates
Simple, folders. MS could have even fixed Windows 8 if they just put in folders to the start screen, who the heck wants a thousand programs/apps just splayed out with no organization? Categories isn't enough, they needed nested folders for organization. Same thing with win10, instead of ALL your programs listed within nested folders which make for very easy navigation, you have the most used programs list, all apps list, etc. Why do I need to have apps represented as huge tiles? Just fix the UI, make the nested folders larger for touch use and done, possibly changing the tablet versus desktop view a bit in terms of UI size. I do appreciate having maybe half a dozen favorite programs as tiles for easy access, similar to pinning programs in the win 7 menu.
I'm not really heartbroken because I will just install Classic Start Menu, but I do get peeved they spent so much energy on something that didn't increase any functionality. Interestingly enough I don't see much of a difference between win10 start menu and win8 start screen and am confounded that people who complained about win8 are actually happy with what is not much more than a cosmetic change.
Jack of all trades, master of none. Apple earned its #1 spot by making great products, whereas Microsoft earned its way with shrewdness making companies depend on their mediocre products.
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There is a 13 screen process in order to make Windows 10 stop spying on you, reportedly.
Conversely Apple made it's money selling fashionized items for more than they should have been worth to consumers who were willing to pay a higher price, and made more money convincing consumers they needed multiple hardware devices. But I think I missed something, I didn't realize Apple was #1 in desktop OS sales?
That is because of the iPhone not macs. OS X is not really free given the price of Mac products and OS X is hardly relevant in enterprise.
Apple has been anti-enterprise affording themselves leeway to innovate and make great products savvy users are themselves bringing into the enterprise.
Not in servers or infrastructure
Don't get me wrong, I want a MacBook Air to use at work with windows based systems.
I see, it just seemed odd that brand has anything to do with the OS comment you were replying to. With over 90% of the computers in the world using Windows I say that "shrewdness making companies depend on their mediocre products" isn't a factor. Really I find it hard to believe they hoodwinked over 90% of the world. Hardware sales are quite small in relation to OS adoption, and MS makes its money off OS adoption and subscriptions to support that OS such as Office, cloud, azure, etc. This is a market where OSx has 4.74% market share, I'm sure it's growing, but it also puts into perspective how many opportunities MS has to sell subscriptions, collect ad information, etc etc. https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0
That surge was in 2013 anyhow, eons in the tech world, raising them from 9.9% to 13.7%, and that's hardware not OS. Other studies demonstrate Apple actually lost market share according to the IDC. Additionally most of that loss on the PC side was due to HP, and from a consumer standpoint they purchased more tablets and hybrid laptops which were not counted as PCs but still ran windows operating system for the most part. Also adoption from xp to win7 was waning as most everyone who was going to switch had already switched.
I'm not saying Apple isn't making great strides, they are but at the same time Win10 saw 14million installs in 24 hours, no small feat so I think they are making great strides as well. I think this is awesome, it's fueled MS to innovate strongly. MS has become the innovator, and Apple has become the rehasher, it's ironic.
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I said "...master of none" about Windows supporting so many platforms whereas Apple became more powerful than Microsoft by mastering their domain (as they have done with OSX). Recently the best selling car in the UK was the Ford Fiesta. Does that make the Fiesta the best car... The best features from Windows are copied from Apple. Yes even companies that want to switch are tied to MS. "MS the innovator, Apple the rehasher" haha I'll have what he's hashing.
http://tech.co/apple-most-innovative-companies-2014-rankings-2014-12
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I love these kind of analogies.....
lol....so can you apply your Ford Fiesta analogy to the iphone as well? It is the best selling phone.......
The iPhone is the single best selling phone brand. Also, the words 'premium product' are quite subjective.
I wouldn't say OSx has made them number one by any stretch. The ipod, ipad, iPhone, iOS that's made them number one. 13% hardware market share and 4.74% OS market share makes them money, but doesn't make them number one. I don't think you mean windows supporting so many platforms, but rather mean that OSx only runs on Apple hardware where Windows runs on anything that supports it and pays the licensing fee.
What makes the "best" doesn't mean sales, and ironically enough this ties into what you are saying overall with Apple, for example is the iPhone the best smartphone simply because it dominates sales? The best features in Apple are also copied from windows, it works both ways and the entire "copying" debate is insanely stupid if you look at the way the market functions. Everyone copies from everyone, and Jobs was particularly vocal about saying he liked to copy as well. I'm not saying it as a negative, but the copying debate is a non starter nonsensical debate.
Yep MS is innovating hard right now. Full OS on an ipad sized tablet, having unified development no matter what hardware you are programming for whether it's a PC, tablet, smartphone etc. Continuum is an incredible innovation, matched by none, use your smartphone as your PC and lose the need for any other PC in your life. Apple mainly rehashes from iteration to iteration, they have beautiful and unmatched hardware (except the surface line) but at the end of the day iOS has not radically changed.
Why isn't windows a "premium" product? Confusion over the inane comparison of a smartphone to an OS, I'm curious.
Amazing how this argument is still going after 30 years.
Anyway, Windows 10 is really nice, just updated the family desktop with it and it's a huge improvement over win8.
Actually, windows 8 is what got me to switch to a Mac in the first place, and while windows 10 might not be enough to get me to switch back, it at least puts them back on my radar for when it's time to upgrade my MBA, which I hope I can still get another couple of years from it, I got in 2011.
Anyway, Windows 10 is really nice, just updated the family desktop with it and it's a huge improvement over win8.
Actually, windows 8 is what got me to switch to a Mac in the first place, and while windows 10 might not be enough to get me to switch back, it at least puts them back on my radar for when it's time to upgrade my MBA, which I hope I can still get another couple of years from it, I got in 2011.