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Windows 7 - Going on your mac?

  • Absolutely. Better performing and better looking. If only my spouse could change this way.

    Votes: 6 11.3%
  • Not sure. Looks nice, but it's still Windows.

    Votes: 27 50.9%
  • Not a chance. I spent 40 days and nights in the desert to get my Mac, and I'm keeping it clean.

    Votes: 20 37.7%

  • Total voters
    53

Stridder44

macrumors 68040
Mar 24, 2003
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California
My laptop is a toshiba satellite 2GB of RAM, AMD turion64 dualcore

Im on my computer almost all day. I hate vista.

Startup time =/= speed in my book.
security i couldnt care less about, Ive never had a problem because im not an idiot who downloads random crap/clicks on blatant spyware.

My problem with vista is my explorer crashing a minimum of 5 times a day (i had a tally for the first 2 weeks). When it crashes once, forget it, if i want to use sound again or dont want it to crash again every 5 minutes i have to restart. Seems to crash everytime i adjust the volume, or any time i switch programs on the taskbar.

have i used vista? HA.

Well I'm sorry to hear you've had such a bad time with it. I, as well as many of my friends, have had the exact opposite experience (a good one). I totally agree with you about the security thing. I don't think Vistas' perfect, and could definitely use some cleaning up as far as code/performance goes, but your comp. crashes even when turning the sound up? Come on.

Sounds like either a very bad driver (not Vista/Microsoft's fault) or a hardware issue.
 

The Awesome

macrumors member
Sep 11, 2008
78
0
Philippines
Sure...

Windows user here since 3.1 (I hang around here so I'm ready once I get my first Mac :D)

I agree with the other poster about the trial/bloatware: it really does make Vista worse than it is. Add that to the fact the Microsoft also seems to make fairly incoherent/useless applications (none of that Calendar-Contacts-Email integration you get in your Macs). I will miss MS Paint, though T_T :p

Right now, Vista's not what most of you would think it is. I can't recall it crashing this September (it hangs a bit, though that's my slow PC's problem). It's not an inspiring piece of software but I get by.

To answer the poll: If I don't have a Playstation 3 before next summer, then I'll have to use boot camp on my future MBP. I'll get Vista or the upcoming 7 since XP doesn't have DX10 support (I'll only use it for gaming). Once you have more than a gig and a half of RAM on your PC, the performance gap between XP and Vista is gone.
 

Stridder44

macrumors 68040
Mar 24, 2003
3,973
198
California
Windows user here since 3.1 (I hang around here so I'm ready once I get my first Mac :D)

I agree with the other poster about the trial/bloatware: it really does make Vista worse than it is. Add that to the fact the Microsoft also seems to make fairly incoherent/useless applications (none of that Calendar-Contacts-Email integration you get in your Macs). I will miss MS Paint, though T_T :p

Right now, Vista's not what most of you would think it is. I can't recall it crashing this September (it hangs a bit, though that's my slow PC's problem). It's not an inspiring piece of software but I get by.

To answer the poll: If I don't have a Playstation 3 before next summer, then I'll have to use boot camp on my future MBP. I'll get Vista or the upcoming 7 since XP doesn't have DX10 support (I'll only use it for gaming). Once you have more than a gig and a half of RAM on your PC, the performance gap between XP and Vista is gone.

A gig and a half? That's it? :rolleyes: RAM is so cheap now-a-days, why not max it out? The jump from 2 to 4 GB of RAM for me was intense (in a good way). But yes, I agree with the bloatware. I blame the manufacturers for throwing this crap on notebooks/desktops, making a system/OS look to be much more sluggish than it actually is.
 

fredsarran

macrumors 6502
Jun 15, 2008
422
0
It does not really look different from Vista besides it seems to have a "ClearCrystal" theme. Anyway, I cannot imagine this Windows 7 to be better than Vista. Vista is crap and always be (compared to XP) and the new one as well.
 

darkcurse

macrumors 6502a
Nov 5, 2005
538
0
Sydney
I still dislike Vista. I used to hate Vista but now its just general dislike so thats... good...? Anyway, I find that if you give Vista time to boot up properly, let it sort out its thoughts first while you sip coffee for 5 minutes before delving in and doing stuff then maybe it'll be alright. The main with Vista for me now is still that its really slow and sluggish and this with 2 gigs of RAM so... If Windows 7 performs better, then sure why not.
 

pol0001

macrumors 6502
Apr 15, 2008
337
178
London
I have Vista Home Basic on my Bootcamp partition. I actively used Windows 3.1, 95, 98, ME, 2000, XP and Vista. And I have to say MS made great progress with their OS. The problem of MS is, that they have to write a "good for all" OS, while Apple can focus on the hardware they sell. The experience with a tailored OS will most of the time be better, than the experience with an OS that was just thrown on top of some hardware by a manufacturer.

I use Vista because MS Office is the only serious Office Suite out there where you don't have to worry about file formats. Every Office Suite can read Word, Excel etc. And it is packed with features that others Suites are missing. I use Excel extensively for work. And I am very pleased with it.
The reason why I use a Mac at home ist that I like the GUI more and that the way OSX works/integrates it's components is more coherent with my way of thinking.

Concerning Windows 7 it's to early to judge the OS. It is still in Alpha. And remember all the features that where either promised for Vista or those that weren't included in Vista's Alpha. We'll have to wait till they release the Beta of Windows 7 to get a realistic impression of it.

PS: To all those people praising XP and damning Vista. The Windows 98 users did the same to XP when it came out. I remember some of the arguments like "unstable", "requires new hardware", "activation" and my favourite complaint "the bubble gum optic". :rolleyes: So wait another year till MS irons out the rest of the bugs and switch than. XP is a dead OS. It is just a matter of time till more and more new programs become "Vista only".
 

t19880821

macrumors regular
Sep 1, 2008
117
0
i like windows. sure, i like mac osx more... mainly due to its simplicity and reliability. but really there's nothing wrong with windows and most of the problems are fixable by the user.

the whole time i have had XP installed on this MBP, i have had nearly ZERO problems. then again, most of my time on this computer is spent in OSX. but the time spent on XP has been nearly flawless.

would i install windows 7 on my mac? sure, why not? i was actually going to install vista when i got more RAM.
 

Saladinos

macrumors 68000
Original poster
Feb 26, 2008
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Windows 7 is fairly advanced as far as the UI goes. Microsoft spent a lot of time and money researching interfaces and branding for Vista. Aero is the new windows brand. You see those aurora patterns, you think Windows (that's the idea).

Windows is so widely used, that it's quite easy to develop branding. Luna (the XP theme) became a big part of the XP brand. You could recognise it at a glance and know it was XP. Aero hasn't done so well because Vista hasn't done as well as XP (from a marketing perspective).

Windows 7 won't depart dramatically from Aero. It's Windows' Aqua. Aqua's been tweaked between revisions, but between each, you could still see it was the same UI philosophy. I actually find Aero oddly attractive sometimes.

I played around with some internal Longhorn builds and demos (most of which were made in Flash. I can go over the Longhorn story if anyone's interested). Microsoft have some really smart people working for them, even if it doesn't always show in their products. Things like WinFS and the original Sidebar - they were huge. They show the kind of forward-thinking that almost makes you sympathise with their dominance.

WinFS was not just a filesystem. The computer actually knew what files where. File formats were replaced by XML schemas, and it was all perfectly integrated. You could be on a phone call with John (and the computer would know it's John, and who John is), and it'd show you recent emails, IMs, collaborated documents, and filter them by context using speech recognition. You could tag things easily from the sidebar. You didn't have folder hierarchies - you'd tell the computer to show you all photos with You and Jenny in them, in that simple language, and it'd just do it. The computer thought about data as you think about your data. Not by file names or folders, but by content. You can do this with metadata, but I consider that a 'tacked-on' solution. WinFS was built for this kind of stuff. Unfortunately running a relational database server for all disk queries turned out to limit performance somewhat, and it was scrapped.

The Sidebar was much more than a Dashboard rip-off. It was design to solve the problem of data being somewhere in the cloud in different services. All your information would be aggregated in to one place. Applications could use it, too. So in one place, you could see your upcoming appointments, web-based emails, orders from Amazon, CD burning status...etc. All the information scattered across applications and web services would be aggregated. I'm not sure why this was scrapped. I know the current Sidebar was close to being scrapped right up until release. One high-level executive had faith in it, though, and it was kept. The Sidebar team then became part of Windows Live (for whatever reason), and was eventually just disbanded.

If these concepts see some life in Windows 7, I'll buy it. I'll only ever buy another copy of Windows if there's some true technological progress.
 

Stridder44

macrumors 68040
Mar 24, 2003
3,973
198
California
PS: To all those people praising XP and damning Vista. The Windows 98 users did the same to XP when it came out. I remember some of the arguments like "unstable", "requires new hardware", "activation" and my favourite complaint "the bubble gum optic". :rolleyes: So wait another year till MS irons out the rest of the bugs and switch than. XP is a dead OS. It is just a matter of time till more and more new programs become "Vista only".

THANK YOU. People like to forget this. Are some of you really that stubborn that you plan on using XP forever? Oh, right, until something better comes out. :rolleyes: Enjoy waiting forever.
 
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