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Assuming that the Windows PC has a laser printer attached to it, I would choose the Windows PC over the Mac Plus or SE and StyleWriter printer.aquajet said:
That doesn't mean I couldn't do it with the Mac Plus or SE.
However, IMHO, it is easier to use the Windows PC and will produce a much better Resume (laser vice inkjet).
I hope this clears up my prior comments.
Okay... but without assuming a difference in printer quality, which would you choose? The questions starts at:sushi said:
"assuming you were able to get your work done on an antique Mac Plus or SE with a 9" monochrome screen, would you choose that, or a state-of-the-art Windows PC if you had to choose between the two?"
so there is no implication of being forced to use a StyleWriter or ImageWriter on the Mac side... and there is similarly no implication that the Windows PC includes a laser printer.We could take it a few steps further... lets assume no additional software on either system and no printer with either system, and $100 spending money to get what you need. Which would you choose then?
I know I could get a good LaserWriter for the Mac and a bunch of software (including a copy of PageMaker and Freehand) for under $100. Of course, I already own that software and hardware, but we should no more assume that we already have access to that software any more than we would assume that the PC comes with a laser printer.
I know that I could produce outstanding quality work (better than most people with a brand new PC) with an SE, a hand full of software and a LaserWriter. And even starting from scratch I would be able to put together such a system much cheeper than a new state-of-the-art Windows PC with the software and laser printer needed.
Of course from 1991 to the beginning of 1997 I was using an SE/30 as my primary system... and had no problems producing excellent quality workmanship on it. And I can still produce great stuff on my Mac IIs and Quadras (I'd pick my Quadra 950 over a new PC any day
).Dang, a Mac Plus?
I'd use a dusty old Quadra running System 7 to avoid Windows, but a Plus?
Heck, I could run SheepShaver or Basilisk II and thereby run a Mac environment faster (and in color and with higher screen resolution and a later MacOS) on the PC than on a Mac Plus. On that basis, the PC.
(Is it cheating to use the Mac emulator?)
I'd use a dusty old Quadra running System 7 to avoid Windows, but a Plus?
Heck, I could run SheepShaver or Basilisk II and thereby run a Mac environment faster (and in color and with higher screen resolution and a later MacOS) on the PC than on a Mac Plus. On that basis, the PC.
(Is it cheating to use the Mac emulator?)
Based on the OPs comment, he has a StyleWriter printer.RacerX said:
Sure he could get another printer. But why?
The majority of computer labs that I have been in have laser printers. He has a StyleWriter printer. No question in my mind. In fact, in this day and age from a business perspective if someone were to submit a resume to me produced by an inkjet printer, it would end up in the circular file -- I wouldn't even bother reading it.
Bottom line, I am looking at the easiest solution that gets the job done the most effective manner.
Now if the question were, could you do everything on a Mac Plus or Mac SE (which I owned two systems), that opens a whole another situation/challenge.
Heck, if I wanted to, I could produce a nice resume on my HP-71 system with a laser printer. But I ask again, why? Unless of course it is for the challenge.
Today I was working on a PowerPoint presentation that I needed to get some Japanese Kanji characters. Due to a font issue, it took some time to do. All the while I'm thinking is there a quicker way to do it...even with a PC.
So again, if you are asking for the challenge then sure you could do everything with a Mac SE and StyleWriter printer or laser printer (such as a LaserWriter 360 which I owned).
Actually, if it's specifically and only a word processing task, such as typing up and printing a resumé, I really would prefer the Mac Plus, with System 7.0.1 on an external SCSI HD, and MacWrite Pro for my word processor. I detest Word (either platform) and don't know Word Pro or WordPerfect well enough for the extra processing oomph and big color screen to outweigh the advantages of a word processor I know well.
Heck, if it's specifically a resumé and only a resumé (no footnotes, endnotes, embedded graphics with words flowing around them, or even a need to have multiple documents open), I'd even rather do it on a 512Ke Mac running System 3 from a floppy and the original MacWrite to create it with than some Windows PC with some Windows word processor I don't know my way around in.
Heck, if it's specifically a resumé and only a resumé (no footnotes, endnotes, embedded graphics with words flowing around them, or even a need to have multiple documents open), I'd even rather do it on a 512Ke Mac running System 3 from a floppy and the original MacWrite to create it with than some Windows PC with some Windows word processor I don't know my way around in.
And he has a Mac Plus... but the question included a Mac SE.sushi said:
Actually, you answered the question quite nicely... Windows would be your easiest solution and a Mac Plus or SE with a LaserWriter would be a challenge for you. Where as for me, the opposite would be true.
Which goes to show that owning something (like a Plus or SE and LaserWriter) is a different thing from being proficient at using those tools.
Give me a current top end PC with Office a nice laser printer and I would easily smoke your butt if you were using a Mac Plus/SE with a StyleWriter or LaserWriter 360 printer. I would get my work done faster, have more options, be easier to do with a larger screen, higher quality and faster print out, etc.RacerX said:
That is why I used the word challenge. You are not using the best tool to get the job done if you are using the much older equipment.
Just like asking the question, can I kill a bear with a 22 rifle. Yeah, but I sure wouldn't want to try. I would rather use an appropriate rifle for the task at hand.
As someone else mentioned, it would be fun to do it with the Mac Plus and a LaserWriter printer. Yes it sounds like fun. It would also be fun using my Newton 2100 and LaserWriter 360 as well. Just not as effective and therefore not the best way.
If you say so... I was never comparing our abilities (which neither of us have any references for), I was just noting that you are a better PC user than a Mac user.sushi said:
And if you don't think that is a fair statement, you just said...
These types of tasks were not that processor intensive and with apps like Aldus Freehand 2.0, Aldus PageMaker 4.0, Aldus Persuasion 1.0, Microsoft Word 5.1a and Macromind Director 2.0 I would have more abilities and more options than I would with Office on a PC. The screen size might be challenging, but than again I still make use of a Duo 2300c (640x480) so a step down to 512x384 really isn't that big a drop in size. And the SE supports an external display (I used to work with one that had a portrait black & white display that would show full pages quite nicely).
Again, I'm not comparing your work to my work... I'm just pointing out that (according to you) you are better with a Windows PC than a Mac. And that you would be able to easily smoke your (own) butt.
That's you. You are apparently a really skilled Windows user (or are marginally skilled with older Macs). And there is nothing wrong with that.
I would be more productive with the tools and environment I'm most familiar with. And it just happens that in this case (unlike you) I would choose a Mac.
So what you are saying is that you would take a magnifying glass to every resume you get before reading the content? A document produced on an inkjet and copied on a standard copier would require that type of inspection.
There is a term for that type of personality...
Actually, I am a much better Mac user!RacerX said:
Been doing computers a long time -- started in the mid 70s. Started on mainframes. Worked on minis, PCs, Macs, among others. Been doing PCs since IBM PC and Macs since the Mac Plus.
Used the apps that you discussed on early Macs as well. Did a bunch of programming too. For the record, I like Macs and prefer them over PCs.
However, I tend to choose the best tool for the task at hand whatever it may be. Why limit yourself to old hardware and software?
If the question were a current Mac or current PC I would choose the Mac hands down. If the question were an older Mac or an older PC I would choose the Mac hands down. But an older Mac vice a current PC, I would choose the PC. But that's just me.
Hopefully this makes a bit more sense to you now.
Anyhow, RacerX you seem to love twisting things around to suit your point of view. Whatever.
Huh? It doesn't take a magnifying glass to tell the difference text wise. And my eyes are old!RacerX said:
If you are in a situation where you need to submit a resume in paper form for a job, I would think that you would want the best looking option available. That's all.
Anyhow, you choose the tool that works best for you and I will do the same.
As for the OP, he will have to choose what works best for him.
You do realise this is a mac forum don't you?
Stick with the mac. I'm sure you'll find it a much more satisfying experience
Stick with the mac. I'm sure you'll find it a much more satisfying experience
How many times are we going to establish this?sushi said:
Where did I twist anything? You just said:
"But an older Mac vice a current PC, I would choose the PC. But that's just me."
If I've miss quoted you, please point it out. Otherwise, you have just stated* (again) what has been my point of view.I'm not sure where saying the same thing in different ways changes the content, but your welcome to continue trying.
* Note: I am assuming that "vice" means "verses" in the quoted statement.