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fishkorp

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Apr 10, 2006
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is there a way to dual-boot with Vista beta 2? I have an MSDN license and downloaded it. Tried to install and it gets done, but on reboot gives errors. I've had no luck in dual booting. and it won't work in Parallels at all.
 

Noted

macrumors regular
Mar 13, 2006
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fishkorp said:
is there a way to dual-boot with Vista beta 2? I have an MSDN license and downloaded it. Tried to install and it gets done, but on reboot gives errors. I've had no luck in dual booting. and it won't work in Parallels at all.

Would like to know this too
 

jaxstate

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Apr 13, 2006
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This is expected. Tiger is just Panther with updates, Panther is just Jaguar with updates.
Macer said:
To be honest, it is windows xp with updates to the software within xp, like media player and internet explorer.
 

Copland

macrumors regular
May 26, 2006
114
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Rochester, NY
jaxstate said:
This is expected. Tiger is just Panther with updates, Panther is just Jaguar with updates.

True, but it took Apple 2 years in-between Panther and Tiger, and it took M$ 5 years to get from XP to Vista.

EDIT: Actually, it will be more like 6 years when Vista actually comes out.
 

ImNoSuperMan

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Dec 1, 2005
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Does VISTA allow hot corners?

I`d like to ask one thing bout that ALT+TAB function. Is there an option to activate this command with just hot corners? Coz it`s the hot corner which makes expose so easy and useful. If we still have to cycle through windows using ALT+TAB; I think it`s just another crap. A crap which is made to look better by covering it with fancy covers.

Can someone check n confirm if VISTA can use hot corners?
 

lexus

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Mar 26, 2006
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Depends Greatly On The Weather
vikas soni said:
I`d like to ask one thing bout that ALT+TAB function. Is there an option to activate this command with just hot corners? Coz it`s the hot corner which makes expose so easy and useful. If we still have to cycle through windows using ALT+TAB; I think it`s just another crap. A crap which is made to look better by covering it with fancy covers.

Can someone check n confirm if VISTA can use hot corners?
You mean expose
 

Macer

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Original poster
May 2, 2006
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You can dual boot, apparently you install vista on the windows xp partition. But when vista asks you which partition to install it on you have to delete the 200mb partition first. Then pick drive c: which would be your boot camp partition. Then after vista reboots you have to repair the vista partition. All the info is on OSx86.
 

jaxstate

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Apr 13, 2006
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Is this a positive or negative thing?
Copland said:
True, but it took Apple 2 years in-between Panther and Tiger, and it took M$ 5 years to get from XP to Vista.

EDIT: Actually, it will be more like 6 years when Vista actually comes out.
 

Macer

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May 2, 2006
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I don't know if you can say it is a positive or a negative thing. But you can say that the next mac OS will blow vista out of the water. That is guarateed. Hell OS X blows vista out of the water now never mind leopard.
 

Saturnine

macrumors 65816
Oct 23, 2005
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I have Vista and OS X on a dual boot running perfectly here. I even managed to get full Aero Glass working - and perhaps, most surprising of all, I managed to get sound working from both speakers or headphones.

I would post a guide on what I did but I'm far too lazy. If enough people show an interest I'll get around to writing some basic step-by-steps.

Oh, 20" iMac by the way.
 

Macer

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May 2, 2006
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Not hard to get the sound working or the glass as the drivers for the video card and sound card are built into vista. The only things that didn't work when i installed it were the airport card and the bluetooth, oh i forgot the isight aswell. Everything else seemed perfect. I also thought it was aload of microsoft crap again.
 

Copland

macrumors regular
May 26, 2006
114
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Rochester, NY
jaxstate said:
Is this a positive or negative thing?

I don't understand the question:eek:
I guess it is a positive thing that Mac users are getting more frequent upgrades, and a negative thing that Windows users have to wait so long between (seemingly) small upgrades. (Although I'm sure M$ did some stuff other than put new clothes on XP)

And, it is also positive that the frequent OS X upgrades work properly, so I would say the frequent upgrades is positive for me.
 

jaxstate

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Apr 13, 2006
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I was just curious on how others feel. I know some people who despise the long wait between Windows OS releases. I also know some people who felt they were throwing out money for minor upgrades for OSX releases.
Copland said:
I don't understand the question:eek:
I guess it is a positive thing that Mac users are getting more frequent upgrades, and a negative thing that Windows users have to wait so long between (seemingly) small upgrades. (Although I'm sure M$ did some stuff other than put new clothes on XP)

And, it is also positive that the frequent OS X upgrades work properly, so I would say the frequent upgrades is positive for me.
 

Macer

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May 2, 2006
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Stick with xp if you must. Vista is only a 2 week trial.
 

topgunn

macrumors 68000
Nov 5, 2004
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Houston
Vista is more than just lipstick on the same old Windows pig. Microsoft has done some pretty major upgrades to key components. Tom's hardware did a pretty good write up on it. You can look it up here.

Although I did almost lose my lunch when I read the last page.
Microsoft's new Vista is surprisingly entertaining. The new look of the operating system is good, and lets it outshine its Linux and Mac OS competitors. One notices repeatedly while working with this software that Microsoft scoped out its competition very carefully.
 

Saturnine

macrumors 65816
Oct 23, 2005
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2,476
Manchester, UK
Macer said:
Not hard to get the sound working or the glass as the drivers for the video card and sound card are built into vista. The only things that didn't work when i installed it were the airport card and the bluetooth, oh i forgot the isight aswell. Everything else seemed perfect. I also thought it was aload of microsoft crap again.

Run the Macintosh Drivers for WindowsXP executable for Boot Camp. While the setup programme is running, wait for the Macintosh Drivers folder to appear in programme files (but be quick, it's only a temporary folder) and make a copy of it.

You can then install the Airport and Bluetooth drivers manually, as they're inside the Macintosh Drivers folder. Airport, I can guarantee works. Bluetooth I'm less sure about, but my BT keyboard works.
 

Macer

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May 2, 2006
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Thanks for the tip, but i have removed the beta version of vista as i thought i seen somewhere in vista that it was only valid for 2 weeks. Not sure if this is true or not. Anyway i removed it now because i can't be bothered messing around in 2 weeks sorting out my hard drive.
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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a better place
chaosbunny said:
Without reading through all the posts, what does a thread called "windows vista" do under the topic "mac software"?:rolleyes:

Errr hello. The discussion group is 'Windows on the Mac' and NOT 'Mac osX' or 'Mac Applications'.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

imacintel

macrumors 68000
Mar 12, 2006
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How can I dual boot? I try holding C when I start up, ut I just get the apple symbol! I really wanna try Vista(please dont kill me:eek:)
 

ManchesterTrix

macrumors 6502
Feb 24, 2005
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imacintel said:
How can I dual boot? I try holding C when I start up, ut I just get the apple symbol! I really wanna try Vista(please dont kill me:eek:)

imacintel said:
Umm, I think if you use boot camp to install Winblows XP, You can have it overwrite the Windows Partition, and have it stay away from the mac partition. But what self respecting Mac user would want to install ANY copy of windows.

Anyways, you have to remove the 200 meg EFI partition to get Vista to boot. You will still be able to boot OS X, but I'd suggest backing up first as this will cause problems in removing the Vista partition through Bootcamp.
 

grabberslasher

macrumors 6502
Aug 2, 2002
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Éire
You can try formatting the EFI partition first as hfs, as the vista boot loader tries to boot from the first FAT/NTFS partition, and the EFI partition is formatted as FAT
 

Timepass

macrumors 65816
Jan 4, 2005
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Copland said:
I don't understand the question:eek:
I guess it is a positive thing that Mac users are getting more frequent upgrades, and a negative thing that Windows users have to wait so long between (seemingly) small upgrades. (Although I'm sure M$ did some stuff other than put new clothes on XP)

And, it is also positive that the frequent OS X upgrades work properly, so I would say the frequent upgrades is positive for me.


you see I have a different view. I think apple updates it OS way to fast and M$ is taking way to long.

I think apple really needs to slow down it OS releases because by the time programs and developers adjust to a new OS the next one already out. (like by the time they really make get adjusted to tiger Lion will be out) Remeber some software is being develope for over a year for the big stuff. So lets say they start working on a project now that will take them 6-9 months to make they never really have time to get it set up for tiger and figure out the bugs there and then boom lion comes out and now they have the orginal program bugs to fix on top of the new bugs that come into play switching over to lion making it harder to figure out where the problems are.

That being said I think apple should double the ammount of time bettween new OS (to 3 years) and M$ needs to cut there in half (to 3 years). That is a good middle ground. 1 year to learn the new OS. 1 year to make software than works and 1 year to use the stuff before having to adjust.
 
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